Old 25th July 2004, 19:44   #1
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Is it possible to normalise files in winamp
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Old 25th July 2004, 19:46   #2
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Old 26th July 2004, 02:19   #3
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MP3Gain was its name-oh.
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Old 26th July 2004, 02:48   #4
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MP3gain doesn't normalize in Winamp.

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Old 26th July 2004, 04:53   #5
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No, it is a seperate program. But it normalizes your MP3s and works in EVERY player.

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Old 26th July 2004, 04:55   #6
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random on-topic question... does normalizing hurt the quality?

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Old 26th July 2004, 04:56   #7
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From: TSGH -> Where did those plugins go

RockSteady (compressor/normalizer)
http://www.mpex.net/en/software/details/rocksteady.html
http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=1099

AudioStocker (volume normalizer plug-in), by Leif "Liket" Claesson:
http://leif.cx/software | http://mp3stocker.tsx.org/
If link is down, try here

Limiter (useful for normalizing the sound level), by SqrSoft:
http://www.sqrsoft.com.ar/en/
http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=102777

Replay Gain DSP plugin
http://www.xs4all.nl/~walterln/replaygain/

Tom Steady (Automatic Gain Control, anti-clipping and Stereo Echoer)
http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=36297


Other Normalization/AotoGain/VolumeControl plugins:
KMG Dynamic Volume20
Playlist Auto-Gain
Zyraxs Evil Volume Normalizer
KMG DSP Dynamic Volume
Stereo Tool
Jammix Enhancer

Oh, and don't forget mp3gain (alt site)
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Old 26th July 2004, 05:06   #8
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Nah, MP3Gain is a lossless transformation.

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Old 26th July 2004, 10:01   #9
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Old 27th May 2005, 18:18   #10
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Volume Normalization Plug-in and more

Volume Logic is a new output plug-in for Winamp that will re-master your music files during playback using multi-band dynamics processing developed by the same people that designed and built Radio and TV audio dynamics processing units costing $10-15K each.

Using a Winamp file writer output plug-in you can capture the Volume Logic effect into a new file and download this to portable devices or if you don't want to permanently modify your digital audio file, simply leave Volume Logic as an output plugin and cofigure it to output to the wave out or direct sound out.

It offers a significant and impressive volume normalization and spectral rebalancing effect on the oroiginal recording. With 16 presets and front panel drive and Bass Boost controls you can find a combination that fits your speakers and your ear.Volume Logic
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Old 1st February 2006, 16:04   #11
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I use both MP3 files and MusePack files.
Is there any normalization softwasre that covers both formats?
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Old 1st February 2006, 16:38   #12
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MP3gain is what I used to normalize over 1700 songs and it works great...Now if I could only find a batch equalizer to be able to equalize more than one song at a time and save back to my hard drive I would be set
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Old 24th February 2006, 17:48   #13
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MP3gain is what I used to normalize over 1700 songs and it works great...Now if I could only find a batch equalizer to be able to equalize more than one song at a time and save back to my hard drive I would be set

Ok... but, is it true that GAIN is a known spyware producer? I've seen some GAIN applications crawling with adware and worse... is that the case with this plug in?
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Old 24th February 2006, 18:01   #14
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hat GAIN is a known spyware producer?
First, MP3Gain is no plugin, it's a prgram

Second MP3Gain /= Gain (Gator) Spyware.

MP3 Gain is an open source program, wich is not bundled with any kind of spyware and has nothing to do wiht Gain.
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Old 24th February 2006, 19:10   #15
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Thanx a lot Koopatrooper. that will make my life easier.

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Old 26th February 2006, 18:24   #16
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I usually find it best to normalise with replaygain as this does not edit the audio file itself, but instead adds a replagain comment in the tag.

To normalise my files I use foobar2000 (best to choose album method if you are doing full albums, as this will keep the sound differences in the tracks intact). I'd recommend reading about replaygain: http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index....tle=Replaygain to see why it is so widely recommended by hifi enthusiasts.

To play back the normalised file in winamp use the Shibatch input plugin (just make sure to take .MP3 out of the list in the Nullsoft plugin). As Shibatch has no id3 editor make sure you install mp3infp too!

Good luck.


Shibatch: http://otachan.com/in_mpg123_118ot100.7z

foobar2000: http://www.foobar2000.org/foobar2000_special.exe

mp3infp: http://win32lab.com/dcl.cgi?act=up&u...p3infp252a.exe

P.S. To open 7zip file you may need the free archive utility.

7-Zip: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/s...2.exe?download

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Old 7th March 2006, 18:43   #17
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Normalize v Gain

What is the difference between normalizing and gain ?

I currently use a program called BPM for music in my bar. I has an AGC which adjusts each track (on the fly) so that volume stays at roughly the same level.

In looking to switch to Winamp, I am looking for a similar feature. I see that Winamp itself doesnt have this functionality, however there is talk of an external program, MP3Gain, which levels out the volume of tracks.

There is also talk of normalization which is different (and I believe handled by a plugin within Winamp??).

Can someone guide me?? What is the difference in what these do?

All I want is smooth, constant volume.

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Old 7th March 2006, 19:04   #18
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Re: Normalize v Gain

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Audio normalization is the process of increasing (or decreasing) the amplitude (volume) of a digital audio recording. Typically normalization increases the amplitude of the audio waveform to the maximum level without introducing any distortion into the recording.

Specifically, normalization applies a constant amount of gain to an entire recording to bring the highest peak to a target level, usually 98% (-0.3 dB) or 100% (0 dB). This differs from dynamics compression, which applies varying levels of gain over time depending on the level of the audio source. Normalization applies the same amount of gain across the entire recording so that the dynamics are preserved.

Normalization is an off-line effect since it requires two passes. The first pass determines the highest peak, and the second pass applies the gain to the entire recording.

Normalization is often used when remastering audio tapes for CD production, in order to maximize the bandwidth on an audio CD, and to make it sound louder. It is often combined with dynamic range compression and hard limiting to increase the apparent volume of a CD.

If the internal volume is too loud, normalization frequently causes the waveform to clip. Hard Limiting can fix this by boosting the internal level but keeping the waveform below a certain set dB.

p.s. Gain is a measurement of the change in output.
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Old 7th March 2006, 19:11   #19
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That was great - very helpful. Thanks.
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Old 9th March 2006, 13:42   #20
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normalize is for like editing programs like soundforge

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Old 6th June 2006, 11:52   #21
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ReplayGain is NOT the same as normalizing.
ReplayGain is based on the overall perceived loudness of a track/album, normalization is peak-based.

Just imagine a rather quiet track with some loud peaks followed by a rather constantly loud song.
If you normalize those two songs, the volume of both is adjusted to a peak level of e.g. 98%. But you still want to grab the volume knob, because the perceived loudness of the second song is much higher. ReplayGain addresses this issue and calculates the perceived loudness of each track. The amount of dB the loudness differs from a standard value (standard is 89dB) is stored in the file's tag and applied only when playing, whereas normalising always is a 'lossy' process, because audio data is altered irreversibly.

ReplayGain has an album mode, too, which keeps dynamics between songs (just compare a normalized Pink Floyd album to the original, then you probably don't want every song to be equally loud).

Just google or try hydrogenaudio.org for more information.

My advice: even if it sounds tempting to normalize, consider ReplayGain.

PS: On-the-fly normalizer (output plugins ect) are NO alternative to 2-pass methods, because they can't predict loudness, they alter a song's volume with different values throughout one song. In fact they kill song dynamics.

PPS: For using ReplayGain (RG) with Winamp, you need a software calculating the RG values (e.g. foobar2000 a.k.a. fb2k) and (at least up to WA 5.22) another input plugin (in_mpg123.dll), because WA's in_mp3.dll still does not support reading (and writing of course) ReplayGain tags.

PPPS: An alternative to ReplayGain is mp3gain, which uses the same method as RG to calculate a song's loudness, but it alters the mp3-file directly in a lossless, reversible (unless you kill a file's ape-tag which contains the undo information) way.
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Old 14th September 2006, 22:23   #22
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Normalising video

I wanna be able to set the volume of my videos to stay at a constant (or close to) volume. The reason being is that I like to leave them playing at night but the theme tunes are always loads loader than the rest so can often wake me up.

Any help much appreciated,
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Old 15th September 2006, 13:37   #23
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I don't know of any application can can do it from a video file. I would demux the audio and then apply the necessary gain to it then mux it back into the video file. But it sounds like you want dynamic range compression making the louder parts quieter and the quieter parts louder. I think this can only be done by reencoding the file.

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ftp://83.149.236.38/packages/Sound/W...diostocker.zip
In case anyone still looks for audiostocker as it is no longer available at the URLs above.

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