Version 1.11a Released!

will · 15th August 2004, 17:26

Download
http://mlipod.sourceforge.net/

Updates since the last RC:
* Faster transfers
* Smart Ratings/Lastplayed/Playcounts Sync (updates each track one way or the other based on lastplayed date)
* "Copy to hard drive all songs not in ML"
* Sync Confirmation box (so you finally know what sync will do!)
New to the 1.11a release
* Fixed crash with ratings sync
* Fixed crash with Copy to Hard Drive
* Fixed playlist sending not detecting changes to the end of the playlist

Enjoy!

BLiC · 15th August 2004, 18:36

Excellent!

Finally got the last features I've waited for, you've done an excellent job with the plugin.
Keep up the good work!

Carno · 15th August 2004, 22:33

Hoot! Hoot! Congrats, will.

kaatinthehaat · 15th August 2004, 22:42

Nice job Will! Thanks again for all your hard work and for sharing it with the rest of us. Have a pint on me.

kaatinthehaat · 15th August 2004, 23:02

Found a bug in the new version. Prior to Syncing, I added some songs to a pre-existing playlist in Winamp. The same playlist already exists in the ipod. Unfortunately the songs were not added to the playlist in the iPod even though the songs are present in the ipod.

kaatinthehaat · 15th August 2004, 23:10

I also just noticed that there is an entire playlist missing from winamp which remains in the ipod. ie there are 9 playlists in the ipod but only 8 in winamp. The missing one is named "Summertime". Weird!! BTW I have no smart playlists and nothing in "on-the-go".

kaatinthehaat · 15th August 2004, 23:12

Quote:

Originally posted by will
in config -> transfer settings -> Sync Settings
have you got "Syncronise media libary playlists" checked?

Yes

will · 15th August 2004, 23:12

Bug confirmed. This only happens if the new song(s) is at the end of the playlist.

[Edit: Bug fixed. Thanks!]

kaatinthehaat · 15th August 2004, 23:16

Quote:

Originally posted by kaatinthehaat
I also just noticed that there is an entire playlist missing from winamp which remains in the ipod. ie there are 9 playlists in the ipod but only 8 in winamp. The missing one is named "Summertime". Weird!! BTW I have no smart playlists and nothing in "on-the-go".

Any ideas about this one Will?

will · 15th August 2004, 23:19

If you have a playlist on the iPod which is not winamp, it will not remove it.

This is by design.

However, it has the side effect that if you remove a playlist from winamp, it will not remove it from your iPod.

kaatinthehaat · 15th August 2004, 23:27

As long as it's normal behavior. I just wanted to make you aware if it wasn't supposed to happen.

kaatinthehaat · 15th August 2004, 23:33

Quote:

Originally posted by will
Bug confirmed. This only happens if the new song(s) is at the end of the playlist.

[Edit: Bug fixed. Thanks!]

Should I redownload and install the plugin?

will · 15th August 2004, 23:53

No, I havn't updated that.

The bug is limited to songs added to the end of the playlist when the rest is unchanged. So for now use the workaround of modifying the middle of the playlist as well (changing the order of songs will work).

I'll probably do a 1.11a version very soon, (for the winamp bundle), so it will be in that.

[edit]

Quote:

Originally posted by kaatinthehaat
Have a pint on me.

Oh i just got that, thanks man!

[/edit]

kaatinthehaat · 16th August 2004, 00:00

Thanks bud.. Enjoy your pint. I'm going for one now too and I think I'll toast you.

wa21guy · 16th August 2004, 23:31

Winamp bundle? Are you including the plugin into a future Winamp release?

wa21guy · 16th August 2004, 23:33

nevermind... just saw the other sticky... sorry

biznotch · 17th August 2004, 03:33

Will,

Thanks for your time on this EXCELLENT plugin. It's come a long way since the first version and really compliments Winamp wonderfully.

I really hope you or others will continue development on this...

All in all...fantastic job... much appreciated!!

Be well.

biggbuckz · 17th August 2004, 05:07

not sure if anyone's said this, but winamp crashes when i smartsync... syncing from ipod or from winamp work... smartsn = crash

tymeflame · 17th August 2004, 06:00

winamp crashes on eject through wl_ipod...

--[Edit]:spelling...

kaatinthehaat · 17th August 2004, 06:13

I keep having the same problem.

xcuse · 17th August 2004, 07:00

Will

Thank you very much for the new plugin. It works great, so far I have not encountered any problems. The new sync windows is great and the new transfer speed is unbelivable...

scorpia700 · 17th August 2004, 08:07

winamp's the best and i've got my whole music collection on it but ive go an ipod mini do you think you'll ever make a version that will work with mini's

will · 17th August 2004, 08:18

It already works with iPod minis.

scorpia700 · 17th August 2004, 08:55

thanks so much im an idiot i didnt realise somebody told me it didnt so i never tried thanks again

txcrew · 17th August 2004, 15:55

Quote:

Originally posted by biggbuckz
not sure if anyone's said this, but winamp crashes when i smartsync... syncing from ipod or from winamp work... smartsn = crash

Same thing here. Crashes every time.

Im not really sure what smart sync really does or how it is different from copy from ipod to winamp. I read that it updates each track one way or the other based on lastplayed date, but isn't that what ipod to winamp does?

will · 17th August 2004, 16:23

Smart Sync looks at each individual track and decides which way to copy based on the lastplayed date.

The other two just copy all (changed) tracks in one direction only. (One for each direction).

will · 19th August 2004, 22:00

released 1.11a to fix major issues with smart sync and copy to hard drive.

kaatinthehaat · 21st August 2004, 01:50

Nice job, Will. Thanks. Another pint to you!

will · 26th August 2004, 22:10

Just a quick look at whats to come:

4rix · 26th August 2004, 22:15

Looks nice. But no real-live-smartlists yet?

will · 26th August 2004, 22:54

You can't "look" at live smart playlists. You don't see them. It just happens and it works.

At the moment I have all the code ready to write the extra database entrys for live smart playlists, and I'm half way through writing the code to convert a winamp query into an itunes query. I might finish this in time for the next version. Who knows.

Also, nagging makes me want to code this less.

4rix · 27th August 2004, 00:56

I haven't nagged in some time now though.

What would make you want to do it more?

Anyways, I really don't mean to annoy, I'm just wondering. I know you made the program for yourself to begin with.

maxdido · 27th August 2004, 15:36

will.... this looks really cooool.

electricmime · 28th August 2004, 01:46

i never sync, for multiple reasons... but will you include that 'file types' thing for general transfers.. for example, when i buy a cd, i usually rip it, play it, and then transfer it to my ipod by dragging the folders to my ipod, but i also use lyrix, which saves the lyrics as txt files in the same folder the music files are in.. and with an older version of ml_ipod(it seems to be fixed now) it would transfer the txt files to the ipod too... even though that seems to be fixed, it would still be nice so if i buy some songs out of the itms, i can say 'dont send m4ps, only send m4as' or whatever..

wa21guy · 1st September 2004, 02:37

Don't be a dick 4rix.

kaatinthehaat · 1st September 2004, 03:18

Quote:

Originally posted by wa21guy
Don't be a dick 4rix.

That is uncalled for, wa21guy.

XanDaMan · 1st September 2004, 12:57

Quote:

Originally posted by will
Just a quick look at whats to come:
[Image]

Hmmm, and you went all out at me a while ago when I suggested this...

At least its beeing implemented!

will · 1st September 2004, 14:12

No, I went all out on you when you continually pushed me towards it.

Something only needs to be said once in this forum to the noticed. Saying it again is patronising.

scorpia700 · 21st September 2004, 07:24

im having problems with my mini winamp won't detect it i've read your mannual and everything but it still wont work any suggestions anyone

kaatinthehaat · 21st September 2004, 17:14

Have you tried changing the drive letter in the autodetect setting under ipod configuration?

15th August 2004, 17:26	#1
will Nullsoft Newbie (Moderator) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 5,569	Version 1.11a Released! Download http://mlipod.sourceforge.net/ Updates since the last RC: * Faster transfers * Smart Ratings/Lastplayed/Playcounts Sync (updates each track one way or the other based on lastplayed date) * "Copy to hard drive all songs not in ML" * Sync Confirmation box (so you finally know what sync will do!) New to the 1.11a release * Fixed crash with ratings sync * Fixed crash with Copy to Hard Drive * Fixed playlist sending not detecting changes to the end of the playlist Enjoy! DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH SUPPORT QUESTIONS

15th August 2004, 22:42	#4
kaatinthehaat Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 504	Nice job Will! Thanks again for all your hard work and for sharing it with the rest of us. Have a pint on me. 80GB 5.5 generation Video iPod 4GB and 8GB gen 2 Nano's with ****+ Winamp 5.52 Pro ; ml_iPod 3.05

15th August 2004, 23:02	#5
kaatinthehaat Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 504	Found a bug in the new version. Prior to Syncing, I added some songs to a pre-existing playlist in Winamp. The same playlist already exists in the ipod. Unfortunately the songs were not added to the playlist in the iPod even though the songs are present in the ipod. 80GB 5.5 generation Video iPod 4GB and 8GB gen 2 Nano's with ****+ Winamp 5.52 Pro ; ml_iPod 3.05

15th August 2004, 23:10	#6
kaatinthehaat Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 504	I also just noticed that there is an entire playlist missing from winamp which remains in the ipod. ie there are 9 playlists in the ipod but only 8 in winamp. The missing one is named "Summertime". Weird!! BTW I have no smart playlists and nothing in "on-the-go". 80GB 5.5 generation Video iPod 4GB and 8GB gen 2 Nano's with ****+ Winamp 5.52 Pro ; ml_iPod 3.05

15th August 2004, 23:12	#8
will Nullsoft Newbie (Moderator) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 5,569	Bug confirmed. This only happens if the new song(s) is at the end of the playlist. [Edit: Bug fixed. Thanks!] DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH SUPPORT QUESTIONS

15th August 2004, 18:36	#2
BLiC Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 32	Excellent! Finally got the last features I've waited for, you've done an excellent job with the plugin. Keep up the good work!

15th August 2004, 22:33	#3
Carno Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gone Posts: 266	Hoot! Hoot! Congrats, will.

15th August 2004, 23:19	#10
will Nullsoft Newbie (Moderator) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 5,569	If you have a playlist on the iPod which is not winamp, it will not remove it. This is by design. However, it has the side effect that if you remove a playlist from winamp, it will not remove it from your iPod. DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH SUPPORT QUESTIONS

15th August 2004, 23:27	#11
kaatinthehaat Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 504	As long as it's normal behavior. I just wanted to make you aware if it wasn't supposed to happen.

16th August 2004, 00:00	#14
kaatinthehaat Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 504	Thanks bud.. Enjoy your pint. I'm going for one now too and I think I'll toast you.

16th August 2004, 23:31	#15
wa21guy Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Seattle, WA USA area Posts: 87	Winamp bundle? Are you including the plugin into a future Winamp release?

16th August 2004, 23:33	#16
wa21guy Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Seattle, WA USA area Posts: 87	nevermind... just saw the other sticky... sorry

17th August 2004, 03:33	#17
biznotch Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 30	GREAT JOB, WILL!! Will, Thanks for your time on this EXCELLENT plugin. It's come a long way since the first version and really compliments Winamp wonderfully. I really hope you or others will continue development on this... All in all...fantastic job... much appreciated!! Be well.

17th August 2004, 05:07	#18
biggbuckz Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 7	not sure if anyone's said this, but winamp crashes when i smartsync... syncing from ipod or from winamp work... smartsn = crash

17th August 2004, 06:00	#19
tymeflame Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: my room... Posts: 9	Crash winamp crashes on eject through wl_ipod... --[Edit]:spelling... Last edited by tymeflame; 17th August 2004 at 07:27.

17th August 2004, 06:13	#20
kaatinthehaat Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 504	I keep having the same problem. 80GB 5.5 generation Video iPod 4GB and 8GB gen 2 Nano's with ****+ Winamp 5.52 Pro ; ml_iPod 3.05

17th August 2004, 07:00	#21
xcuse Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 47	Will Thank you very much for the new plugin. It works great, so far I have not encountered any problems. The new sync windows is great and the new transfer speed is unbelivable...

17th August 2004, 08:07	#22
scorpia700 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5	winamp's the best and i've got my whole music collection on it but ive go an ipod mini do you think you'll ever make a version that will work with mini's

17th August 2004, 08:18	#23
will Nullsoft Newbie (Moderator) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 5,569	It already works with iPod minis. DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH SUPPORT QUESTIONS

17th August 2004, 08:55	#24
scorpia700 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5	thanks so much im an idiot i didnt realise somebody told me it didnt so i never tried thanks again

17th August 2004, 16:23	#26
will Nullsoft Newbie (Moderator) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 5,569	Smart Sync looks at each individual track and decides which way to copy based on the lastplayed date. The other two just copy all (changed) tracks in one direction only. (One for each direction). DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH SUPPORT QUESTIONS

19th August 2004, 22:00	#27
will Nullsoft Newbie (Moderator) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 5,569	released 1.11a to fix major issues with smart sync and copy to hard drive. DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH SUPPORT QUESTIONS

21st August 2004, 01:50	#28
kaatinthehaat Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 504	Nice job, Will. Thanks. Another pint to you! 80GB 5.5 generation Video iPod 4GB and 8GB gen 2 Nano's with ****+ Winamp 5.52 Pro ; ml_iPod 3.05

26th August 2004, 22:10	#29
will Nullsoft Newbie (Moderator) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 5,569	Just a quick look at whats to come: DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH SUPPORT QUESTIONS

26th August 2004, 22:15	#30
4rix Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 72	Looks nice. But no real-live-smartlists yet?

26th August 2004, 22:54	#31
will Nullsoft Newbie (Moderator) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 5,569	You can't "look" at live smart playlists. You don't see them. It just happens and it works. At the moment I have all the code ready to write the extra database entrys for live smart playlists, and I'm half way through writing the code to convert a winamp query into an itunes query. I might finish this in time for the next version. Who knows. Also, nagging makes me want to code this less. DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH SUPPORT QUESTIONS

27th August 2004, 00:56	#32
4rix Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 72	I haven't nagged in some time now though. What would make you want to do it more? Anyways, I really don't mean to annoy, I'm just wondering. I know you made the program for yourself to begin with.

27th August 2004, 15:36	#33
maxdido Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 117	will.... this looks really cooool.

28th August 2004, 01:46	#34
electricmime Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 991	i never sync, for multiple reasons... but will you include that 'file types' thing for general transfers.. for example, when i buy a cd, i usually rip it, play it, and then transfer it to my ipod by dragging the folders to my ipod, but i also use lyrix, which saves the lyrics as txt files in the same folder the music files are in.. and with an older version of ml_ipod(it seems to be fixed now) it would transfer the txt files to the ipod too... even though that seems to be fixed, it would still be nice so if i buy some songs out of the itms, i can say 'dont send m4ps, only send m4as' or whatever.. There is no reset button on life... but the graphics kick ass

1st September 2004, 02:37	#35
wa21guy Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Seattle, WA USA area Posts: 87	Don't be a dick 4rix.

1st September 2004, 14:12	#38
will Nullsoft Newbie (Moderator) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 5,569	No, I went all out on you when you continually pushed me towards it. Something only needs to be said once in this forum to the noticed. Saying it again is patronising. DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH SUPPORT QUESTIONS

21st September 2004, 07:24	#39
scorpia700 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5	im having problems with my mini winamp won't detect it i've read your mannual and everything but it still wont work any suggestions anyone

21st September 2004, 17:14	#40
kaatinthehaat Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 504	Have you tried changing the drive letter in the autodetect setting under ipod configuration? 80GB 5.5 generation Video iPod 4GB and 8GB gen 2 Nano's with ****+ Winamp 5.52 Pro ; ml_iPod 3.05

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