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jesseg
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Registered: Mar 2002
From: Minneapolis

Goodbye Nullsoft =(

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It is truely a sad month in the history of America.. Just when you think you've been beat down by the monsters that run things, another comes along to remind you, it's all about the $ in the end.

AOL has finally dropped the big one on Nullsoft that leveled all of the staff but three remaining members (Jonathan, Wen and David).

I (not being an "official" employee, but mearly a volenteer guest editor) shall remain committed to trying to help spread knowledge to the digital music community through the site as long as possible, or at least until AOL forces me out too.

Please take a moment of your day to bow your head down in thanks to the efforts and innovation given to the entire digital music revolution by the Nullsoft crew through out the years.

AOL's really whipped the Llama's ass on this one...

-X-


Llama's news
http://www.gedikian.com/2004/10/closing-of-chapter.html

in the news
http://www.betanews.com/article/Dea...namp/1100111204
http://www.overclockersclub.com/?read=0012566
http://p2pnet.net/story/2965


The lack of Nullsoft will leave a big hole in a lot of people's lives, especially around this community.

Lots of questions abound I'm sure, but my biggest question is:
What's going to happen to Shoutcast 3?!!?
Could one of the Llamas answer this for us?


[Edit DJ Egg]
This is a load of bullshit. Don't believe speculation & rumours. That's why there's been a Winamp 5.06 and 5.07 released since this bs thread was posted :/

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Quake110
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Damnit, AOL F*** up everything they touches.

You will be missed Nullsoft

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GREAT...now what?

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What are AOL's plans for winamp? Does anyone know?

Or are they so mischevious no one will leak it?

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what will happen to the forum? the site? skins and plugins?

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Yea, I'd like to know this too...

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maybe there still is hope with wasabi player? We need people to rally and make a voice for that player to start taking off once again!

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i've tried it. it's not that great. it's slow and i think it crashed a couple of times.

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Things change, nothing lasts forever. Be happy for the time that you had and move forward. This site won't be shut down anytime soon, I can at least promise that much.

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Sad though. At least if Winamp goes downhill from here, we have some good versions already we can continue to use.

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There are a few people left behind the scenes... a new winamp version should be released soon. Nothing spectacular, mostly bug fixes

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will
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Who do you quote in this post, jesseg?

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Who do you quote in this post, jesseg?

Was wondering that as well...

According to The Register:
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"AOL's really whipped the Llama's ass on this one," wrote volunteer Mike Darrah in a posting to the Pho mailing list. Which gives us another reason to thank Nullsoft's attention to detail, and its wit. Who else could put a lyric from a much loved 350lb schizophrenic onto 100 million PCs?

"Please take a moment of your day to bow your head down in thanks to the efforts and innovation given to the entire digital music revolution by the Nullsoft crew through out the years," says Darrah.

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AOL consists of MORONS. Pure Grade A first class shitheaded MORONS. What more can I say about this. Idiots. *sigh*.

iTune's just not that good yet. Lacks of support for raw AAC, no WMA ( ) no mod, no midi, no APE, FLAC, no [anywaveformatyoupossiblycouldfind] no milkdrop etc. Fuck.

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CraigF
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"AOL has finally dropped the big one on Nullsoft that leveled all of the staff but three remaining members (Jonathan, Wen and David)."

read this sentance over and over and tell me where it says nullsoft is finally dead, or that aol canned it?

AOL didnt sack anyone of the original cast that have left in the past year, they just left. Grave that it is, that leaves three.

Crazily, other media sources picked up this quote and ran with it. So, the bleak situation has probably just been put into fast forward. Everyone assumes aol has canned Nullsoft, thus, it'll become truth.

Not that I dont think its end game for Nullsoft, but I think its a bit preemptive to call this while people are still employed here.

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jesseg
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I quoted that because I didn't write that. In fact neather did Mike Darrah, although he did make the "whipped the llamas ass" comment. I happen to be on the Pho list. I could ask him personally who wrote it, if it even matters... Imo I don't think it matters who leaked this, it wasn't exactly top secret.

[edit] It's also not a secret that a lot of the Radio@ people are getting canned as well. =( [/edit]

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Omega X
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WHAT THE FUCK!

Damn AOHELL...

Now they deserve to DIE OFF.

I hope the Timewarner heads gut that division to hell just to show them how the Nullsoft team felt...

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jesseg
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Hey!! I know a bunch of those people dude. :/ They are cool people just like our llamas, trust me. It's not a happy time for anyone in SF.

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Where is the winamp website's server?

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forums/website are on AOL servers and there are no plans to shut them down for a long time

and as for the article, i personally think it's a load of crap which along with a few others is causing more issues than is truly worth, but hey i've just a laky who gives up most of his freetime to Winamp things so i'd know nothing :/

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If AOL kills Nullsoft I'll kill AOL.

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if AOL kills Nullsoft, it would be the biggest mistake they ever made.

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In seriousness, I wouldnt regard this as being the end of the era, possibly a new start, albeit a much more controlled one.

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In seriousness, I wouldnt regard this as being the end of the era, possibly a new start, albeit a much more controlled one.



This controlled era will bring a player bloated with features just like RealOne.. I think...

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The controlled era started when Nullsoft was sold to AOL. In all reality Winamp has been for sale for over half a year... Whoever buys it can do whatever they want with it

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where do you pull this shit from? your ass?

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i thought it's from the wee wee of life

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It's a fact, Winamp was for sale over 6 months ago.

<sarcasm> Being the Chief Engineer of the largest streaming radio network on the planet, you'de think I know nothing at all, right? </sarcasm>

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WHY MUST AOL SLAM NULLSOFT DOWN?

AOL IS REALLY A BUSINESS FAILURE. LOOK AT NETSCAPE. BOUGHT OVER IT, AND CLOSED IT. DID THE SAME FOR WINAMP TOO..

I don't think AOL agreed with Nullsoft all these years. Hope AOL closes down, and frees the trademark "WINAMP" to be further developed by the original Nullsoft crew. Why don't they follow Mozilla's footsteps and create another foundation? MILLIONS of USERS are using WINAMP. I can count and calculate, almost of them migrated from WMP.

LONG LIVE WINAMP

AOL whipped LLAMA's ass, LLAMA kicked AOL'S balls.

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Re: WHY MUST AOL SLAM NULLSOFT DOWN?

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I can count and calculate, almost of them migrated from WMP.
Really? I was using winamp before i'd ever heard of WMP.

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Saying you hate AOL is really strong. Because if AOL were to go out of business, you would see a lot of major companies go with it.

Sure, I might dislike some of their decisions. But I wouldn't want them to die off. They own half of the TV channels I regularly watch.

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Well, then you obviously can't count, mattress.

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It's a fact, Winamp was for sale over 6 months ago.

<sarcasm> Being the Chief Engineer of the largest streaming radio network on the planet, you'de think I know nothing at all, right? </sarcasm>



Actually, i think you will find it kinda panned out like this:

efforts were made to seperate nullsoft from aol, aol refused.

hardly seems like it was "up for sale" to me.

<sarcasm>Being admin of the winamp forums and manager of the beta list for the last five years you'd think i know nothing at all, right?</sarcasm>

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yea lots of misinformed people, gotta love the media.

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