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Old 13th June 2005, 22:55   #1
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Clicking a link in the ML does nothing

Winamp works for a while then:

after clicking a shoutcast audio or video link in the media library the reading http info box comes up and then disappears as usual.

However, winamp then just sits there and does nothing as if i hadn't clicked the link at all.

Sometimes if i clear my internet cache it fixes the problem but i usually have to go through and delete all my temporary files manually.

does anybody know if there is a fix for this issue yet?

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Old 14th June 2005, 07:01   #2
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Re: Clicking a link in the ML does nothing

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Sometimes if i clear my internet cache it fixes the problem but i usually have to go through and delete all my temporary files manually.

does anybody know if there is a fix for this issue yet?

Crap Cleaner - one button to click and your cache is empty again
or search for tempcleaner.
both can be found on zdnet.com both are freeware and do good job.

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Old 14th June 2005, 19:03   #3
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considering it happens almost once every 2 days i think having to download a cache cleaner is not really very good. This is free software i know but come on, isn't it about time this issue was fixed?
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Old 14th June 2005, 19:06   #4
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Good idea, contact Microsoft. Cache corruption is a issue with Windows and Internet Explorer. Though if it is happending that much on your system, that is a sign of a bigger OS issue you might have.

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Old 16th June 2005, 10:21   #5
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All my other programs work fine (even internet explorer when i rarely use it) in fact my system never crashes. I'm not a programmer but don't you think other programs would crash if there was a problem with the os cache?

Also cleaning the cache doesn't always fix the problem. Sometimes I have to uninstall and reinstall winamp.

by saying "contact microsoft" does this mean that nullsoft are not looking into the problem. The online TV service which I pay for uses NSV to stream their content so maybe I should complain to them.

I just thought it'd be better to post here first.

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Old 19th June 2005, 13:34   #6
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still hoping for a reply
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Old 19th June 2005, 13:41   #7
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Leerees- i have same problem as well..
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Old 19th June 2005, 21:08   #8
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Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 22:06:25, on 19/06/2005
Platform: Windows XP SP1 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Program Files\AVPersonal\AVGUARD.EXE
C:\Program Files\AVPersonal\AVWUPSRV.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\System32\kxmixer.exe
C:\Program Files\AVPersonal\AVGNT.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\System32\notepad.exe
C:\Program Files\ESS Remote Guide\ESSRG.exe
C:\Program Files\eMule\emule.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\SNDVOL32.EXE
C:\Program Files\Win32Pad\win32pad.exe
C:\Program Files\Win32Pad\win32pad.exe
C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\SmartFTP\SmartFTP.exe
C:\Program Files\Media Player Classic\mplayerc.exe
F:\HijackThis.exe
C:\Program Files\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware SE Personal\Ad-Aware.exe

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page_bak = http://www.yahoo.co.uk/
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [kX Mixer] C:\WINDOWS\System32\kxmixer.exe --startup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [KernelFaultCheck] %systemroot%\system32\dumprep 0 -k
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AVGCtrl] C:\Program Files\AVPersonal\AVGNT.EXE /min
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [H2O] C:\Program Files\SyncroSoft\Pos\H2O\cledx.exe
O16 - DPF: {C5E28B9D-0A68-4B50-94E9-E8F6B4697519} (NsvPlayX Control) - http://www.nullsoft.com/nsv/embed/nsvplayx_vp6_aac.cab
O23 - Service: AntiVir Service (AntiVirService) - H+BEDV Datentechnik GmbH - C:\Program Files\AVPersonal\AVGUARD.EXE
O23 - Service: AntiVir Update (AVWUpSrv) - H+BEDV Datentechnik GmbH, Germany - C:\Program Files\AVPersonal\AVWUPSRV.EXE
O23 - Service: Buzzsaw_Defragmentation - MATCO - C:\Program Files\MATCO\BuzzsawService\BuzzSawService.exe
O23 - Service: DirMS_Defragmentation - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\MATCO\DirmsService\DirmsService.exe
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Old 20th June 2005, 11:01   #9
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I have the same problem and crap cleaner nor manually removing temporary files and cookies didn't help.
What kind of problem is this?? I have tried to run an older version of winamp (5.09 instead of currently installed 5.093) and everything worked!
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Old 20th June 2005, 12:47   #10
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Well, we still can't reproduce the problem, but could you all please confirm a proper clean install of 5.093 (not a reinstall, but a clean install).

All I can think of is maybe some problem with ml_win_media.ini (in the winamp\plugins\ml dir), or maybe one of the other config files (winamp.ini, gen_ml.ini), or maybe some conflicting 3rd-party plugin.

The only other thing I can think of, if it's not cache corruption related, is shoutcast.com is being blocked by some security app or a custom Hosts file.
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Old 20th June 2005, 12:54   #11
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Hi,

well, first I have tried just to reinstall, when it didn't work, I uninstalled winamp and installed it again, with the same results. I have no 3rd party plugins installed and shoutcast site is not blocked, because it actually loads the media library list, only when I want to play (or even just enqueue) any of the streams from the ML, it does nothing at all. When I try to play my own stream and I enter the address manually (using ctrl+l), it works.
Plus, with an older version of winamp, everything works like a charm...
Pretty strange.
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Old 20th June 2005, 13:29   #12
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So basically you've still not done a clean install then :/
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Old 20th June 2005, 14:00   #13
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I have been having the same problem as well. I have done a clean install and am completely positive it was indeed a COMPLETE CLEAN INSTALL. I deleted every file that had anything to with winamp at all! Yet for some reason, whenever I try to to listen to shoutcast audio or watch internet tv nothing happens when I try to play something. I can't even put a channel in the playlist. I even made a new playlist and tried to do the right click move to playlist option and it for some reason trys to connect to a shoutcast server with the filename of my playlist in it. This is to say the least incredibly weird. Aside from formatting my entire hard drive and reinstalling my OP I have tried EVERYTHING else. There has to be some way to fix this.
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Old 20th June 2005, 14:06   #14
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same here. I did a complete and, fresh install and same results
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Old 20th June 2005, 14:09   #15
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I forgot to add that I made sure that no other processes but my vital system processes and of course winamp were running. This is weird beyond belief.
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Old 20th June 2005, 14:48   #16
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Yes, it's very weird.

I'm still not sure what's going on, but I'll get someone to look into it...

If it was clientside then I'd expect it to effect all users, which it isn't doing. This leads me to suspect that it's serverside, possibly an issue with one of the shoutcast.com relay servers. Though like I said, I really aren't sure at the moment, mainly because jant77 said "with an older version of winamp, everything works like a charm".

Yup. I'm baffled, heh.

If anyone else has got any suggestions/input, then please feel free...

[edit]

This post seems to suggest it's something to do with using a proxy server.
Can anyone else here confirm that they connect via a proxy?
Or is that just unrelated/coincidental?
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Old 20th June 2005, 15:02   #17
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I've been reading these posts with interest. Winamp worked for less than a day before it started doing this. Leerees' solution worked once, for about 15 minutes. Egg's un-reinstall instructions did nothing. For what it is worth, sometimes the sidebar menu says 'InternetTV' and at others 'Shoutcast'.

Since Egg's 'you might want to save these files' instructions were listed after his 'delete all these files' instructions, can somebody send me the URL for the 60s psychelelic music station. Maybe I can get that in from their website. Thanx.

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Old 20th June 2005, 15:20   #18
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So now you're saying that you can't even get the Online Media > Shoutcast Radio or TV lists to load at all?

Also note that there are two methods listed via the "clean install" link.
Method 1 is the "Quick and dirty method" (no backups)
The 2nd method is the "Full Uninstall > Reinstall" method, which starts with Backups.
I can't be held accountable if you don't read ALL of the instructions first, heh.

If by "the 60s psychedelic music station" you meant: Technicolor Web of Sound
then the stream url is: http://209.51.162.163:2020
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Old 20th June 2005, 15:25   #19
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Can you all just try closing Winamp, deleting the file: plugins\ml\ml_win_media.ini and then reopening Winamp.

Probably won't make a blind bit of difference, but anything's worth a try.

[Edit]

Someone's just mentioned to me that they've seen this behaviour, but it's intermittent. Apparently, when it happens, they just switch to a different ML view and then switch back again, and everything works ok...

Most weird
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Old 20th June 2005, 15:26   #20
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I can't get my radio and TV neither. The old one worked real good but the new update sucks. I can't get anything to work on my.

AND I DO MEAN NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 20th June 2005, 15:30   #21
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Also when I uninstall winamp, I went to the winamp directory to delete it wont let me delete or rename it.
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Old 20th June 2005, 15:47   #22
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Quote:
Originally posted by DJ Egg
Can you all just try closing Winamp, deleting the file: plugins\ml\ml_win_media.ini and then reopening Winamp.

Probably won't make a blind bit of difference, but anything's worth a try.

[Edit]

Someone's just mentioned to me that they've seen this behaviour, but it's intermittent. Apparently, when it happens, they just switch to a different ML view and then switch back again, and everything works ok...

Most weird
yes, it didn't help either
anyway, I'm going to try the clean install (the only thing was that I haven't removed the c:\winamp\winamp.ini, I don't have winamp agent installed so the winampa.ini is not there), but I don't think it will help
And what do you mean by "different ML view"?

thanks
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Old 20th June 2005, 16:00   #23
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"A different ML View" means one of the other Media Library Views in the left pane, eg. Local Media > Audio.

However, I still suspect that there's a serverside problem with shoutcast.com, possibly with one of the relay servers...
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Old 20th June 2005, 16:06   #24
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DJ you gave me an idea and I've sniffed the network traffic, here's what I've got :-)

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:04:42 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) PHP/4.3.10
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.3.10
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html

Too many requests. Try again tomorrow.

(that's the reply)

so here we go :-)
by the way the request went to 205.188.234.185, FYI
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Old 20th June 2005, 16:08   #25
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I tried it and didn't work
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Old 20th June 2005, 16:18   #26
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I started a thread about this also, but it makes more sense to reply here

Uninstalled and cleaned up, virus check, Spybot, Adaware, HJT on both machines.
Default LITE install(with added Media Library) on both machines, both show the same problem :

'Retrieving playlist' box shows

Typical URL -
h**p://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-station.pls?id=1225&filename=playlist.pls [split] &wid=4BCFB86E83D148672D38640C847D1&uid=840EBD4B6A772AC71CEEA1C94&more=1

and

EITHER
Connecting to host...
Reading HTTP response
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
and nothing plays.

OR
Connecting to Host...
Error connecting to host...
Currently playing stream dies.

Unplugged the router and put one of the machines direct into the modem.
Same results.

Went to command prompt (Start > Run > type in 'cmd' and OK)

Enter 'ipconfig /flushdns'
Enter 'ipconfig /release'
Enter 'ipconfig /renew'

Seems to have fixed it

Reconnected the router and both machines now working, though I'm still getting 'Error connecting to host...' some of the time. (Serverside problem I guess)

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Old 20th June 2005, 16:40   #27
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Yup. I've just received confirmation that there's a serverside problem with shoutcast.com

Sit tight. Hopefully this will be resolved shortly.
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Old 21st June 2005, 00:26   #28
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server is up people.


Thanks DJ egg for your effort
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Old 21st June 2005, 02:12   #29
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Still the odd link doesn't work, but I guess there's always going to be a few duff entries in any database.

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Old 1st March 2007, 16:34   #30
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this was never fixed, its been like 5 years now lol and i still have the same problem and all my friends do aswell.

about 3 out of 100 odd streams work all of the others are the following:

Connecting to host...
Reading HTTP response
HTTP/1.1 200 OK

And then nothing plays.

Since posting this topic I've emigrated to Spain and tried to use winamp in Poland, Estonia, Ukraine and Germany. All of which has the same problem.

My friends back home in England all report the same. Only one of us (out of about 10 people) has it working and none of us can figure out why as he's accesing it from a corporate net with a firewall.
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