Not happy with 5.2 Online Services / Shoutcast browser? Read this first!

DJ Egg · 25th February 2006, 19:51

If you're not happy, for whatever reason, with the new Online Services section of the 5.2 Media Library (ie. the replacement for the old Online Media section), then please do NOT start a new thread in this forum about it.

Please read the following threads/posts first:

FAQ: Online Services

Online Services Poll Part Deux

5.2 Shoutcast browser poll

Any new threads started will be locked.

No, you're not being censored exactly,
it's just that everything that needed saying has already been said.

_______________________________________________

As a result of what's already been said, many changes are being made.
Please read this post first before making any rash posts yourself:

Update Post

The * next to an entry means it's already been applied.

Here is a screenshot of the current SC-TV view
(for those who switched back to 5.13 prior to when these changes were applied).

Note that there's a few extra updates which have been applied since that screenshot was posted, eg. a Config button for extra options (including Bandwidth Filter).

__________________________________________________________

If you're really that desperate to get the old behaviour back,
then you can try this unsupported 3rd-party workaround/hack:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=244425

JonnyMac · 15th April 2006, 20:50

Re: SHOUTcast Radio/TV Error messages:
No Stations Available | Genre Load Failed | Only 30 Streams

[edit > JonnyMac] See below (Update 3) for the Only 30 Streams issue. [/edit]

Note: Although very progressive work has gone on there still may be some lingering intermittent/sporadic issues. Which is why this Sticky was restickied and still remains. A very big thanks to everyone who worked/working very hard to get SHOUTcast back.-JonnyMac

See last post for possible updates

__________________________________________________________

Yes, the SHOUTcast Radio & TV listing in the Media Library is down. This is a server end (not yours or Winamp end) issue. You may see messages like "no stations available", "Genre load failed" or maybe even some script errors.

Patience is a virtue. As DJ Egg mentioned...

Hopefully it will be resolved shortly (assuming that someone's working over the (Easter) weekend).

Keep your fingers crossed, but don't hold your breath.

This issue does not affect the other Online Services in the ML.

There are some workarounds....

For Media Library > Online Services > SHOUTcast Radio, try typing genre or the name of a radio station in the Search box.

If you have SHOUTcast TV or Radio links in Winamp's bookmarks or saved playlists, there is a good chance you can connect from there.

If you know the home page of your favorite SHOUTcast Radio/TV stations, connect from there.

The 'Top 500' link, in the SHOUTcast Radio of the ML is still working. (Working at the time of this post)

For SHOUTcast radio stations go to SHOUTcast.com (Working at the time of this post). Or click on the yellow SHOUTcast banner at the top of Media Library > Online Services > SHOUTcast Radio.

As for SHOUTcast TV.

For Media Library > Online Services > SHOUTcast TV, try typing a letter in the search box. Do not try this for SHOUTcast Radio. Thanks to jamosos for this workaround.

SHOUTcast TV/NSV streams are not listed at SHOUTcast.com. However there are partial NSV Stream Lists here:
http://www.scvi.net/tvpls.htm
http://energyhosting.com/files/nsv.xml
http://saltwaterchimp.com/list/
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=200546
http://webranger.net
Thanks to DJ Egg for the SHOUTcast TV listings. That list is a cut & paste job from a very earlier thread, so some links may be out of date.

To discuss this issue please go to the following thread and post there...
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=243264

All new threads concerning this issue will be locked or deleted.

DJ Egg · 19th April 2006, 03:41

I'm re-stickyfying this, because the SC-TV Listings are still returning "No stations available", and some of the SC-Radio Genres still fail too, eg. Top 500.
Also, the listings in general are loading a lot slower than normally...

Basically, half of the shoutcast yp farm are still a bit flaky.

deppy · 19th April 2006, 23:35

Just as a friendly note....

The listings should be available again and fixed for good. We did a lot of work on the database and the SHOUTcast site itself over the last few days. It purrs like a kitten now and with double the speed! MEOW!

DJ Egg · 21st April 2006, 14:31

There's still some sporadic problems.
SC-TV still says "No stations available"
(it might work once in a while, or it might not load the full list),
and you might occasionally see "Genre Load Failed" in SC-Radio,
and some genres from the Quick Genre drop-down or Genre Selection Bar might still sometimes return "No Stations Available".

DJ Egg · 21st April 2006, 19:14

Latest Update

mmmm, it's looking fixed... for now

NOT

DJ Egg · 23rd April 2006, 12:33

Current Status

Shoutcast TV search is broken

And apparently, TV and Radio Listings aren't updating. More info here:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....45#post1915245

Note again, these are all serverside issues, and not Winamp client related.

It's also possible that support for pre 5.2 versions is broken due to the old servers frying, ie. it wasn't intentional. Note that the "upgrade needed" error message also appears on www.winamp.com/music

Update 2
Ok, the flash listings on winamp.com/music is now fixed
Though I'm not sure if listings on pre 5.2 builds is/will be fixed yet...

Update 3
The old pre-5.2x listings are limited to 30 streams only.
The old list server fried due to flaws in the old listing method.
It is deemed no longer viable to maintain/serve the old listings. Sorry.
Full content (including ~13,000 shoutcast radio streams) is available in 5.21.

DJ Egg · 24th April 2006, 13:47

.

DJ Egg · 8th May 2006, 16:47

Current Status Report

Serverside Issues

-Shoutcast TV search is still broken

-Intermittent 'genre load failed' and 'no stations available' errors still occurring in Shoutcast Radio & TV listings :-(

JonnyMac · 13th May 2006, 21:37

^

DJ Egg · 25th December 2006, 11:52

Unstuck & linked to in FAQ thread instead
(ie. the one which no-one seems to read anyway).

25th February 2006, 19:51	#1
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,871	Not happy with 5.2 Online Services / Shoutcast browser? Read this first! If you're not happy, for whatever reason, with the new Online Services section of the 5.2 Media Library (ie. the replacement for the old Online Media section), then please do NOT start a new thread in this forum about it. Please read the following threads/posts first: FAQ: Online Services Online Services Poll Part Deux 5.2 Shoutcast browser poll Any new threads started will be locked. No, you're not being censored exactly, it's just that everything that needed saying has already been said. _______________________________________________ As a result of what's already been said, many changes are being made. Please read this post first before making any rash posts yourself: Update Post The * next to an entry means it's already been applied. Here is a screenshot of the current SC-TV view (for those who switched back to 5.13 prior to when these changes were applied). Note that there's a few extra updates which have been applied since that screenshot was posted, eg. a Config button for extra options (including Bandwidth Filter). __________________________________________________________ If you're really that desperate to get the old behaviour back, then you can try this unsupported 3rd-party workaround/hack: http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=244425 Playlist -\|- Twitter

15th April 2006, 20:50	#2
JonnyMac Moderator Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 14,385	SHOUTcast Radio/TV lists in ML Is Down. Re: SHOUTcast Radio/TV Error messages: No Stations Available \| Genre Load Failed \| Only 30 Streams [edit > JonnyMac] See below (Update 3) for the Only 30 Streams issue. [/edit] Note: Although very progressive work has gone on there still may be some lingering intermittent/sporadic issues. Which is why this Sticky was restickied and still remains. A very big thanks to everyone who worked/working very hard to get SHOUTcast back.-JonnyMac See last post for possible updates __________________________________________________________ Yes, the SHOUTcast Radio & TV listing in the Media Library is down. This is a server end (not yours or Winamp end) issue. You may see messages like "no stations available", "Genre load failed" or maybe even some script errors. Patience is a virtue. As DJ Egg mentioned... Hopefully it will be resolved shortly (assuming that someone's working over the (Easter) weekend). Keep your fingers crossed, but don't hold your breath. This issue does not affect the other Online Services in the ML. There are some workarounds.... For Media Library > Online Services > SHOUTcast Radio, try typing genre or the name of a radio station in the Search box. If you have SHOUTcast TV or Radio links in Winamp's bookmarks or saved playlists, there is a good chance you can connect from there. If you know the home page of your favorite SHOUTcast Radio/TV stations, connect from there. The 'Top 500' link, in the SHOUTcast Radio of the ML is still working. (Working at the time of this post) For SHOUTcast radio stations go to SHOUTcast.com (Working at the time of this post). Or click on the yellow SHOUTcast banner at the top of Media Library > Online Services > SHOUTcast Radio. As for SHOUTcast TV. For Media Library > Online Services > SHOUTcast TV, try typing a letter in the search box. Do not try this for SHOUTcast Radio. Thanks to jamosos for this workaround. SHOUTcast TV/NSV streams are not listed at SHOUTcast.com. However there are partial NSV Stream Lists here: http://www.scvi.net/tvpls.htm http://energyhosting.com/files/nsv.xml http://saltwaterchimp.com/list/ http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=200546 http://webranger.net Thanks to DJ Egg for the SHOUTcast TV listings. That list is a cut & paste job from a very earlier thread, so some links may be out of date. To discuss this issue please go to the following thread and post there... http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=243264 All new threads concerning this issue will be locked or deleted. Please do not PM me for tech support. Any request for tech support through PM will be ignored. Read the Stickies ---> \| \| \| \| <--- Knowledge is power

19th April 2006, 03:41	#3
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,871	I'm re-stickyfying this, because the SC-TV Listings are still returning "No stations available", and some of the SC-Radio Genres still fail too, eg. Top 500. Also, the listings in general are loading a lot slower than normally... Basically, half of the shoutcast yp farm are still a bit flaky. Playlist -\|- Twitter

19th April 2006, 23:35	#4
deppy Banned Join Date: Jul 1982 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 306	Just as a friendly note.... The listings should be available again and fixed for good. We did a lot of work on the database and the SHOUTcast site itself over the last few days. It purrs like a kitten now and with double the speed! MEOW! Please don't PM me for technical support. Other users can't search through PM's so it does the other users no good.

21st April 2006, 14:31	#5
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,871	There's still some sporadic problems. SC-TV still says "No stations available" (it might work once in a while, or it might not load the full list), and you might occasionally see "Genre Load Failed" in SC-Radio, and some genres from the Quick Genre drop-down or Genre Selection Bar might still sometimes return "No Stations Available". Playlist -\|- Twitter

21st April 2006, 19:14	#6
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,871	Latest Update mmmm, it's looking fixed... for now NOT Playlist -\|- Twitter

23rd April 2006, 12:33	#7
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,871	Current Status Shoutcast TV search is broken And apparently, TV and Radio Listings aren't updating. More info here: http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....45#post1915245 Note again, these are all serverside issues, and not Winamp client related. It's also possible that support for pre 5.2 versions is broken due to the old servers frying, ie. it wasn't intentional. Note that the "upgrade needed" error message also appears on www.winamp.com/music Update 2 Ok, the flash listings on winamp.com/music is now fixed Though I'm not sure if listings on pre 5.2 builds is/will be fixed yet... Update 3 The old pre-5.2x listings are limited to 30 streams only. The old list server fried due to flaws in the old listing method. It is deemed no longer viable to maintain/serve the old listings. Sorry. Full content (including ~13,000 shoutcast radio streams) is available in 5.21. Playlist -\|- Twitter

24th April 2006, 13:47	#8
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,871	.

8th May 2006, 16:47	#9
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,871	Current Status Report Serverside Issues -Shoutcast TV search is still broken -Intermittent 'genre load failed' and 'no stations available' errors still occurring in Shoutcast Radio & TV listings :-( Playlist -\|- Twitter

13th May 2006, 21:37	#10
JonnyMac Moderator Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 14,385	^

25th December 2006, 11:52	#11
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,871	Unstuck & linked to in FAQ thread instead (ie. the one which no-one seems to read anyway). Playlist -\|- Twitter

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