Old 8th June 2006, 05:26   #1
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I am getting sick and tired of these constant winamp updates. You should bloody well auto-update like firefox does. All i use winamp for is mp3's anyway, so it pisses me off seeing these annoying messages all the time. Please settle on a Final version. If your developers are that bored start a new project!!!
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Old 8th June 2006, 05:29   #2
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I'm terribly sorry that the developers are releasing bugfixes - it's a shameful, immoral practice. I'm sure your witty, cutting remark will finally encourage them to find new jobs.

To disable update notifications:
Options (Ctrl + P) --> General Preferences --> Uncheck "Check for new versions of Winamp at startup"

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Old 8th June 2006, 09:44   #3
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My point was you update a hell of a lot, according to http://www.winamp.com/player/version_history.php you've updated version 5 25 times.

Most people probably download the full version which is 6mb. 6*25 = 150mb * millions of people that download it. Thats a lot of bandwidth to use.

There are 351 files in my winamp install folder, the biggest file is 1.61mb. If you had automatic updater that updates only the files you change then it wouldn't bother me and you've probably save yourself some bandwidth costs (someone has to pay for the bandwidth, probably AOL).

I wasn't really trying to be witty, in my opinion winamp has been complete for years. In every update, i don't notice a single difference so it seems kind of pointless to me. Having said that i only install the minimal features (winamp,modern skins, audio file support and UI extensions). Please don't be offended, i was merely commenting.

Winamp is fantastic, there is nothing that can compete with it. I've now disabled auto updates. Thanks
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Old 8th June 2006, 09:50   #4
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Go to www.winampheaven.net > old versions...
You'll see that there's been a new version released almost constantly once a month for the past 9 years. Besides, bugfixes are good :-)

But yeah, there HAS been discussion of using some kind of dynamic updater system...
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Old 8th June 2006, 14:01   #5
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this is offically the stupidest complaint I have ever heard.

Go you.
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Old 8th June 2006, 14:15   #6
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I like Winamp's way to update rather often. So regressions can be easily tracked. And I think that there is no need for an update system. I just update ANY program only if there are fixes that I like or need. Otherwise I wouldn't change a running system.

A browser is a bad example. Since it is a program which is always online and prone to exploits and possible attacks, it simply has to be updated ASAP. Here an updater makes really sense. For other programs it is rather a nasty thing. Keep Winamp as clean and simple as possible. I like it the way it is now.

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Old 8th June 2006, 14:59   #7
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I had posted a thread earlier in this regard:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=246034

The result was strongly negative. However I've now realized that since some releases are more buggy than others & it takes a whole bunch of bugs to be rectified which are parts of various individual files that such kind of updates is a far-off reality (since it would need to make an update with so many replaceable files). I would suggest the Winamp Dev Team to take more time for a new release but just be a little more eager to test all the features for bugs before releasing. (Bugs are never intended)
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Old 8th June 2006, 15:03   #8
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unfortunately taking the time to check everything isn't possible in all cases when powers that be declare that version x has to ship on day y and that deadline isn't allowed to be missed. also Egg can only check out so many things since he does a hell of a lot of the beta testing aspect of the player (and deserves more appreciation for it)

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Old 5th July 2006, 02:30   #9
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I think its better to let the developers explain theirselves on this. Im sure they can lighten up these things.
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Old 5th July 2006, 09:47   #10
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Apologist geeks, please read the part in first post which says "You should bloody well auto-update like firefox does."

Frequent updates are perfectly good thing but the update should be automatic. Opening my browser is NOT the correct update function.

Just download the patch without bugging me, then install the patch. Only dialog I want to click is "Winamp updated, restart [now] [later]". Winamp devs: just look at firefox which does the update really nicely.
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Old 11th July 2006, 17:44   #11
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Yeah

He's right, why don't the developers spend hundreds of hours, taken away from features and bug fix programming, to include an auto-update. Holy shit, I can't stand to download 8 mb every two months, then spend another 30 seconds installing it.


No way, everyone stop bitching about the updating function, that's retarded, and you're retarded for wanting it. God forbid, you go to the website bi-monthly and download a few megabytes of sweet winamp goodness.
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Old 11th July 2006, 18:10   #12
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An auto-updater will bloat winamp. Just keep winamp small and simple. You don't need to update winamp every 2 months. There are moderate security issues maybe once in a year.

And remember: Every update can regress things. Now it is up to you to decide whether you need an update (at the cost of possible regressions) or not. Winamp is rock stable. I think a lot of people like it the way it is NOW.

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Old 15th September 2006, 02:19   #13
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Winamp auto install

My problem with winamp is that it reinstalls itself randomly. I unchecked the box to check on startup but suddenly I have the classic skin and my preferences are all set to default. What a pain in the ass. Does anyone know how to stop this auto install?
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Old 15th September 2006, 02:23   #14
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Umm... it doesn't do that. Sounds like you might be losing your config files. Running a program like Windows Washer maybe?

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Old 15th September 2006, 14:04   #15
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Thanks,that might be it. I do run window washer and I ran it just before this problem happened 2 days ago. Is there some way I can configure window washer so this won't happen?
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Old 16th September 2006, 17:32   #16
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An auto-updater will bloat winamp. Just keep winamp small and simple. You don't need to update winamp every 2 months. There are moderate security issues maybe once in a year.

And remember: Every update can regress things. Now it is up to you to decide whether you need an update (at the cost of possible regressions) or not. Winamp is rock stable. I think a lot of people like it the way it is NOW.
An auto update doesn't necessarily mean that winamp autoupdates itself without asking questions. It can be a system which allows you to define how often it checks for updates and even asks you if you want to update or just skip it.

Also, I don't think it will bloat winamp so much... I'm not a programer, but a lot of programs, and even light ones haev auto update and it doesn't make them heavy. After all, it only checks once for a while if there's a new version, and if so, it downloads it.

Another thing is that with the structure of winamp, it seems like it can be a plugin that if you really don't want, you can just not install it from the beginning. (last comment I can't be sure about because i'm not a programer and don't know winamp's SDK)...

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Old 16th September 2006, 18:12   #17
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winamp checks for updates anyway at startup(if you have it set), it just links you to the winamp website when it sees an update.

you still choose to go to the website or not.
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