Winamp 5.5: strange crash, somehow related to TFMX playback

derJörg · 10th October 2007, 16:22

Hello,

I'm using TFMX Player 1.25 by Peter Pawlowski and it always worked great. Now, with Winamp 5.5 (I used Winamp 5.35 until yesterday), there is a strange error (actually Winamp 5.5 crashes), when the interpolation method in the TFMX Player is set to "cubic":

code:
Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library



Program: C:\Programme\Winamp5\winamp.exe



R6025

- pure virtual function call

The plugin always worked great in previous versions of Winamp.

Info:

Windows XP Pro SP2 (updated to the latest patch)
Sound card drivers and DirectX up-to-date
Pentium 4 HT@2.8GHz, Abit IC7-Max3, 2 GB RAM, Creative Labs Audigy 4 Pro, MSI 7800GS AGP
DirectSound output (out_ds.dll) used

Regards,
derJÃ¶rg

Sawg · 10th October 2007, 18:26

Looks like it is a third-party plugin. Those aren't supported and you will need to contact the author for support.

derJörg · 10th October 2007, 19:48

Hello,

...I know that third party plugins are not supported here.

The plugin didn't change for a long time. Now, that a new version of Winamp arrives, Winamp crashes. It's possible that some of the changes for the new version introduced an incompatibility in Winamp.

Besides, the author of the plugin is the author of foobar2000, who had been working for Nullsoft some time ago. Maybe it's a good idea to write him an eMail, too...

Regards,
derJÃ¶rg

DrO · 10th October 2007, 20:05

with the issue, there was/is a case with in_usf/64th note that maybe the same... one thing to do is to disable the built in main window visualiser (that resolved the in_usf issue as a workaround). if that works with the tfmx plugin then it will be the newer spectrum vis code at fault - i know we ran out of time to look into the issue fully with in_usf before 5.5 final and that's the only thing with the plugin that might cause a crash as nothing else was altered with the in_* api otherwise

as for contacting peter, i think with how things were, i really doubt he'd find any reason to want to update the plugin (assuming the code still even exists) especially considering how bad the split was to cause the development of fb2k

-daz

derJörg · 10th October 2007, 21:22

Hello,

...I tried TFMX playback without any visualization and Winamp still crashes, but I found a detail which might help spot the cause of the crash: sometimes a short piece of the TFMX module can be heard before Winamp crashes (about half a second or so).

I tried all three output plugins and the result is always the same. Other plugins are not active (except the standard gen_ and ml_ plugins).

/me running further tests...

Ha!

After some testing I found a difference: with the Classic skin everything runs fine! The errors appears reproducably with the 5.5 Modern skin and both new Bento skins.

Regards,
derJÃ¶rg

derJörg · 11th October 2007, 06:28

...err...one additional note: everything works fine with the Classic skin as long as the built-in visualizer is turned off. I forgot to mention that in my previous posting...

Regards,
derJÃ¶rg

DrO · 11th October 2007, 08:16

ah so it is the same issue as i thought then if it's all working fine with classic+vis off

-daz

derJörg · 12th October 2007, 07:10

Hello,

...will it be fixed in one of the next versions? Can it be fixed at all?

Regards,
derJÃ¶rg

DrO · 12th October 2007, 07:55

no idea at the moment, i've not spoken to the lead dev on this matter (we're all having a little breather after the last few weeks hard slog with getting 5.5 out the door) so as soon as i know i/someone will try and post back.

-daz

derJörg · 12th October 2007, 18:23

Hello,

...thank you very much. I'm patiently looking forward to the next piece of information...

Regards,
derJÃ¶rg

DrO · 13th October 2007, 23:42

can you upload one of the files you've been working with since the few i managed to find to test with work fine both with the existing 5.5 winamp.exe and one that i've altered to resolve in_usf and in_vqf which were experiencing the same issue, thanks

-daz

derJörg · 15th October 2007, 12:45

Hello,

...yes, of course...

The attached .zip archive contains my currently used TFMX plugin and one TFMX file (from the game Apidya).

Regards,
derJÃ¶rg

DrO · 20th October 2007, 11:12

just tried it with the test winamp.exe i have and the one from 5.5 and neither crashed with the file (though now that we know what the bug was it's possible it may not show up on all installs due to differences in where things are loaded in the winamp process space). pm sent btw

-daz

derJörg · 20th October 2007, 21:47

Hello,

I'm looking forward to the next release of Winamp.

Regards,
derJÃ¶rg

10th October 2007, 16:22	#1
derJörg Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 22	Winamp 5.5: strange crash, somehow related to TFMX playback Hello, I'm using TFMX Player 1.25 by Peter Pawlowski and it always worked great. Now, with Winamp 5.5 (I used Winamp 5.35 until yesterday), there is a strange error (actually Winamp 5.5 crashes), when the interpolation method in the TFMX Player is set to "cubic": code: Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library Program: C:\Programme\Winamp5\winamp.exe R6025 - pure virtual function call The plugin always worked great in previous versions of Winamp. Info: Windows XP Pro SP2 (updated to the latest patch) Sound card drivers and DirectX up-to-date Pentium 4 HT@2.8GHz, Abit IC7-Max3, 2 GB RAM, Creative Labs Audigy 4 Pro, MSI 7800GS AGP DirectSound output (out_ds.dll) used Regards, derJÃ¶rg

10th October 2007, 18:26	#2
Sawg Forum King Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,456	Looks like it is a third-party plugin. Those aren't supported and you will need to contact the author for support. \| Brought to you by ^V ^C \| The one... the original... no seriously!

10th October 2007, 20:05	#4
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	with the issue, there was/is a case with in_usf/64th note that maybe the same... one thing to do is to disable the built in main window visualiser (that resolved the in_usf issue as a workaround). if that works with the tfmx plugin then it will be the newer spectrum vis code at fault - i know we ran out of time to look into the issue fully with in_usf before 5.5 final and that's the only thing with the plugin that might cause a crash as nothing else was altered with the in_* api otherwise as for contacting peter, i think with how things were, i really doubt he'd find any reason to want to update the plugin (assuming the code still even exists) especially considering how bad the split was to cause the development of fb2k -daz WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog

11th October 2007, 08:16	#7
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	ah so it is the same issue as i thought then if it's all working fine with classic+vis off -daz WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog

12th October 2007, 07:55	#9
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	no idea at the moment, i've not spoken to the lead dev on this matter (we're all having a little breather after the last few weeks hard slog with getting 5.5 out the door) so as soon as i know i/someone will try and post back. -daz WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog

10th October 2007, 19:48	#3
derJörg Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 22	Hello, ...I know that third party plugins are not supported here. The plugin didn't change for a long time. Now, that a new version of Winamp arrives, Winamp crashes. It's possible that some of the changes for the new version introduced an incompatibility in Winamp. Besides, the author of the plugin is the author of foobar2000, who had been working for Nullsoft some time ago. Maybe it's a good idea to write him an eMail, too... Regards, derJÃ¶rg

10th October 2007, 21:22	#5
derJörg Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 22	Hello, ...I tried TFMX playback without any visualization and Winamp still crashes, but I found a detail which might help spot the cause of the crash: sometimes a short piece of the TFMX module can be heard before Winamp crashes (about half a second or so). I tried all three output plugins and the result is always the same. Other plugins are not active (except the standard gen_ and ml_ plugins). /me running further tests... Ha! After some testing I found a difference: with the Classic skin everything runs fine! The errors appears reproducably with the 5.5 Modern skin and both new Bento skins. Regards, derJÃ¶rg

11th October 2007, 06:28	#6
derJörg Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 22	...err...one additional note: everything works fine with the Classic skin as long as the built-in visualizer is turned off. I forgot to mention that in my previous posting... Regards, derJÃ¶rg

12th October 2007, 07:10	#8
derJörg Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 22	Hello, ...will it be fixed in one of the next versions? Can it be fixed at all? Regards, derJÃ¶rg

12th October 2007, 18:23	#10
derJörg Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 22	Hello, ...thank you very much. I'm patiently looking forward to the next piece of information... Regards, derJÃ¶rg

13th October 2007, 23:42	#11
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	can you upload one of the files you've been working with since the few i managed to find to test with work fine both with the existing 5.5 winamp.exe and one that i've altered to resolve in_usf and in_vqf which were experiencing the same issue, thanks -daz WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog

20th October 2007, 11:12	#13
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	just tried it with the test winamp.exe i have and the one from 5.5 and neither crashed with the file (though now that we know what the bug was it's possible it may not show up on all installs due to differences in where things are loaded in the winamp process space). pm sent btw -daz WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog

20th October 2007, 21:47	#14
derJörg Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 22	Hello, I'm looking forward to the next release of Winamp. Regards, derJÃ¶rg

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