Old 26th February 2014, 06:06   #121
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Why should SHOUTcast look to become a Spotify clone?
Because its whats driving the market for streaming songs and such, you cannot deny and say outright that SHOUTcast has over time lost its relevance to the likes of them.
But SHOUTcast is different although similar.... in that anyone can host their own broadcast... which is what gives it an edge.

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Winamp has been around for a long time. Those who laugh should have more respect and simply not use it, if it doesn't fit their needs. Winamp's core functions do what they do better than anything else. If you youngsters can't get with that, there are other apps to do what you're looking for.

There are ways to add features (like what Spotify provides), for those who want them, thru plug-ins and/or online services. Attempts to evolve and add new things to the core app itself, in order to appeal to the younger generations, has historically been met with protest. People refusing to upgrade and calling the new versions bloated.
I was talking about SHOUTcast mainly here more than Winamp

Thats the thing though, if it isnt "out of the box" then people just dismiss it and look for something else, Winamp's built in features are just great and one of the greatest if not the best, but without stuff being relatively simple people tend to jump to the next thing..

Spotify is a media player and a streaming application; it isnt that far off from what Winamp is (Spotify is crap at managing local music files though, this is where Winamp owns it) But it balances them gracefully. Its a streaming application with music discovery front and center but also has your local library there with you to mix in, you cant deny that this is where Winamp wanted to be once.. (recall how its older 5.x installers always would make you subscribe for new content?)

Perhaps just a really good looking smooth skin and a rework of its options is all Winamp needs as far as the non streaming related features of it go...

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The current generation has been spoiled by the 'out-of-the-box' experience of the next new thing, imo. They have forgotten how, never learned, or won't take the time, to examine available options that could have apps like Winamp provide much of the same functions. That said, Winamp does have what some would call an intimidating number of options.
Although i agree with you, you have to keep in mind that if you arent familiar with something and you have to tinker with it to get what you want, then its more of a headache than a blessing. Ease of use is what makes people adopt something (look at itunes and spotify for example.. not that great.. but still the most popular in their category, simply from that and good looks alone)
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Old 26th February 2014, 07:14   #122
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Its a streaming application with music discovery front and center but also has your local library there with you to mix in, you cant deny that this is where Winamp wanted to be once.. (recall how its older 5.x installers always would make you subscribe for new content?)
I disagree. Winamp never tried to make music discovery front and center. However, it did and does provide ways to do that. Have you looked at the Moodagent service? Other related features/services in this area were dropped due to lack of user interest. Winamp is first and foremost a digital media player (specializing in audio files) and media file manager, imo. It started with playing local media and added support for streams after streaming started.

Other than core components, I don't remember being forced to install or subscribe to anything. However, I've only used the custom install process and don't know what the automatic process does. What new content are you talking about? Of course some online services (supported by vendors beyond AOL/Nullsoft control) had conditions placed on their content. There was no requirement to install and use those services.

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Although i agree with you, you have to keep in mind that if you arent familiar with something and you have to tinker with it to get what you want, then its more of a headache than a blessing. Ease of use is what makes people adopt something (look at itunes and spotify for example.. not that great.. but still the most popular in their category, simply from that and good looks alone)
Again I disagree that ease of use is what makes people adopt something (unless you are just referring to the current generation). I'm old school and 'ease of use' is not as great has some say it is. I think that just locks you in to a limited range of functions and controls what you can do. I'd rather read a few instructions and have the freedom to tinker. I don't mind having to think a little bit.

Good marketing can persuade people. Apple has good marketing. I don't use Apple products because they are overpriced, force you to buy all new hardware (instead of update/upgrade firmware and/or components) too frequently, and make it overly difficult or impossible for software not provided by Apple to work with them.

I focus on what a product can do (not how easily it does it). The better products (in terms of function) are often not the most popular. What seems hard at first usually becomes easy, once it is learned and familiar. Technology should help people do things, not make people lazy and dependent. As to good looks, beauty is only skin deep and very subjective. There are hundreds of user interfaces, but you have to look for them and add a different one yourself.

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Old 26th February 2014, 10:24   #123
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Maybe you should have left SHOUTcast the way it was instead of messing it up? I don't know why everything has to be redesigned & messed up all the time. My Father-in-law had a real good policy, if it works, DON'T try to fix it, You'll break it.
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If only it was that simple...

We couldn't leave it the way it was, because the previous owner owned all the content and didn't include the design/ui in the package.

We are currently redesigning the site and rewriting the in-client services etc. from scratch, because there's no alternative (other than there being nothing there at all). The content that's up at the moment is just a temporary solution until the new design is ready.
and in addition to that, the previous shoutcast.com was a far from ideal solution as it had been left as a 'beta' site since it was (incompletely) re-done and there were a number of usability issues with it that needed to be fixed with it, most of which would have entailed a new site anyway.

as for the in-Winamp solution, it never felt like it was part of the player and that was it's biggest failing compared to the previous 'native' version that was replaced 8-9years ago iirc. and also things have changed a lot in that time in relation to what browsers can do as well as what is expected from a UI, so things have to change irrespective of what is liked (and if not liked, the old ways can still be used until they're dropped / intentionally broken so devs don't have to waste time supporting things that only a few actually use e.g. SHOUTcast TV).

and DJ-SirDuke has shown a number of times now to not like any of the changes which are made be it for the site (which was a mess) or the tooling (which is done to do what others are asking for and i suspect is using an older build of the v1.x DNAS than the last publically provided version despite all of the access issues that a v1.x DNAS has).

and like is seen in the posts following after DJ-SirDuke's post, people do want to see changes in things (hence the dichotomy that Winamp and SHOUTcast are under in that people don't want change but then they want it to be current and modern - which doesn't generally work out).
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A suggestion for the eventual new SHOUTcast is to make it work more like Spotify. (If not outright copying the way Spotify works)

The way Winamp and SHOUTast work currently, are tbh a way of old to say the least... (like opening a SHOUTcast stream requires a playlist file be downloaded... why not have a protocol?)
SHOUTcast was there before Spotify was ever even born but its been all but forgotten in the sands of time.. Its only users are users that know it from its glory days of the early 2000's and whatever word of mouth said users can pass along.

To be relevant once more SHOUTcast needs to adapt.. Things have changed so much as far as streaming media goes since it was born with the likes of SHOUTcast in the 90's, but while the world moved on; SHOUTcast (and by association too Winamp) have stagnated so hard.. SHOUTcast used to MEAN streaming media once.
SHOUTcast still means streaming media, however it's a different type. by saying Spotify, you're looking for on-demand instead of pre-scheduled content and for a lot of people, a more traditional radio is what they want and that is what SHOUTcast is doing. sure it'd be nice to have the means for it to be a more general content delivery setup so you can do on-demand aspects along with pre-scheduled e.g. the live stream and old recorded shows within a single server (instead of a DNAS + another to do the file provision).

but all of that comes down to the broadcasters and if they a) want it and b) are prepared to update to newer DNAS software to get that. also how the SHOUTcast API would have to potentially change inorder to cope with rather than seeing things as stations, as media and that then gets into a whole massive pile of pain as we'd then have to be far more careful on what is provided over the current station only model i.e. a ball ache of licensing.



as for the other points about playlists and no protocol, there is an ICY url protocol that Winamp can use but was never adopted and playlists are done on other services as well, it is mainly that they hide away such things, but whatever the service, somehow the client has to be provided with the stream / song url(s) to know what to play. sure the way that Winamp handles things could be altered so it feels more seemless, but then is knowing what is actually going on not a bad thing?

whatever the case, a lot of the issues / usability quirks can be resolved and improved but it's a balancing act between annoying users who don't like change vs those who don't mind vs expectations that x, y and z will always work as-is and has been seen time and time again, when some things have to be broken to fix critical issues and for some, that stops their use of newer Winamp clients due to an over reliance on a skin / plug-in that the author doesn't care about vs the dev team trying to do the best that can be done for the product so it'll keep working and doing better on newer OSes.

so sure things can be fixed and make them wonderful again, but if users don't want to or will not update, what is the point of having a dev team other than making new versions for a few people and themselves (as that's how it was coming across based on feedback around the closure notice in that people were sad to hear it was going but they were only using v2.x anyway, so it was that sort of lack of interest to keep updating to current releases that then produce the argument of why have a dev team if people aren't downloading / using what is being provided?).


whatever the case, it's likely that Winamp and SHOUTcast will be seeing changes (whether old stalwarts like it or not) and that people need to remember it is being done for the better of the products to try to make them more relevant and that if they want to see support continued (as that causes a lot to ditch Winamp even if they'd not bothered to update the client for years) then the newer versions need to be used and to bear with us during the transition whilst a new direction is found.
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Old 26th February 2014, 11:12   #125
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did google buy it, to bring back shoutcast tv and backend to youtube streaming, and all the infinate relays and pipes

more "versitile" and scalable then adobe media server http://www.adobe.com/uk/products/ado...-standard.html

standard mp3 radio streaming can remain free
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Old 26th February 2014, 11:26   #126
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SHOUTcast TV is dead. end of.
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Old 26th February 2014, 11:31   #127
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its not end of, if the new owners brought it for a reason, the server code is already done with infinate scalability

make shoutcast 2 work with shoutcast 2, and different format of video streams, and shoutcast 2 will be selling for $1000, and people would probably choose it over adobe, all your CNN, BBC, and other channels who need alot of servers and relays

i dont mean shoutcast tv as it used to be, shoutcast tv existed once, it can exist again only in a full media server

preying eyes who would actually buy shoutcast that earns no money had to have seen something
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you really are clueless about things and comments like the above that i've quoted just make no sense at all.

SHOUTcast TV hasn't been a default online service during client installs for a few years. as well the view was dropped a while before the announcement to close Winamp was made as part of a general review (which was pretty much the only thing providing access to the ~80 or stations that were still working which had a total listener count less than 500).

additionally there had been no development of the NSV tools for almost a decade, and although the format can be relayed without issue though the v2 DNAS, ~80 stations bothering to be listed (it's a factor of ten below that on that Icecast listings) just shows that pretty much no one is bothered about NSV.

and there is little point in expending a mass of resources to make a new SHOUTcast TV (in response to your edit) as there is just no point in doing it. if rdio couldn't make the vdio service work, how on earth is it even sensible to try to resurrect something that was ditched a decade ago? it doesn't and the reality is that Radionomy are audio focused, not video focused, just as SHOUTcast has predominantly been throughout all of it's time.
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Old 26th February 2014, 12:05   #129
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im not clueless, if video streaming is added to shoutcast 2, and shoutcast 2 becomes a full media server, big companies that need alot of relays and servers would probably choose shoutcast over adobes media server

you think too small and stuck in your free radio streaming service

shoutcast radio can still exist as it does today

for someone to buy something that earns no money, what shoutcast could actually become is the selling point

+ you have Theora and WebM free file formats for html5 players http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video

and dont need to pay licences to adobe to use flash
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Old 27th February 2014, 16:40   #130
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Playback from radio streaming is impossible with HTML5 sadly. So far only Safari works because it uses QuickTime for playback.
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Old 27th February 2014, 20:58   #131
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php file explode the pls of the server, and get the stream url, and use curl to get the content type/mime and echo it into your video/audio player tags

http://www.satya-weblog.com/2010/07/...mime-type.html
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Old 28th February 2014, 02:15   #132
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So are current pro users going to get some love?

Will things change for us? Would we get some beta access early - 'cause that would be sweet.
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Old 6th March 2014, 04:16   #134
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Winamp is the greatest invention ever and this news has me nervous.For a couple years i was worried that there were never any updates but i had finally accepted it was just dead.At least i could still use,which i do ALOT.
I'm totally against any change.Winamp is perfect.
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I'd disagree with that last comment. none of the Winamp clients are perfect and there's still a long way to go to make them anywhere near perfect.
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First of all I've been a Winamp user since the early days and been through pretty much all versions of it and I'm extremely happy that it is still alive. I haven't been an active community member but I'd like to offer some of my opinions and observations about this thread and others before it.

FEATURES AND EASE OF USE

It is my opinion that for now Winamp does not need new major features since it already has pretty much an unmatched feature set. This has it's advantages but it also has some major disadvantages. As was mentioned on by another poster the common man likes to have a lot of features as long as they are pretty much invisible and everything works out of the box.

The settings and UI should be revisited, reorganized and the more advanced settings and features set aside for those of us who want to adjust and use them and know what they are intended for. There should/could also be more explanatory information along with the settings as the common man do not like to browse through long help documents and find information instead of using the product.

Many unknown options cause confusion. This is a fact that applies to the common people. Even the simplest things like understanding that a Gmail account is actually a Google Account that is used across all Google services: Android devices and their software downloads/purchases, Checkout for payment processing, Google+ and so on. Even remembering account passwords tend to be too much for many and I actually remember several of other peoples passwords because they call ME when they have forgotten their passwords. Just last week I opened up a locked phone because the owner did not remember the password she had set up for her Google Account just a few weeks before. I've set up so many systems, devices and phones over the years that I know it to be a cold hard fact that the common man are "stupid" when it comes to technology. This applies even to my own generation which has grown up around computers and mobile devices.

Video playback would be the only major part of the software that I'd like to see improved (or it should be removed completely and forgotten). Currently the video support is a bit hidden, management features are almost non existent and it feels like it's been thrown in there just as an experimental feature. Where are automatic libraries for TV shows and movies for example? Video format support should also be extended and it would be nice to see something like FFmpeg integrated for codec free playback although it is most likely unrealistic to expect this at least in the near future. There could also be some licensing issues too. This would make even blu-ray playback possible and we wouldn't need KMPlayer, VLC or K-Lite Mega Codec Pack.

Other existing features should of course also be improved. This should be obvious. Nothing is ever perfect and there is always room for improvement and innovation.

And for other advanced stuff like ASIO support I'd like to say that people should be realistic and think about what can be done and what is possible with the available resources. There is a reason why it is quite rare to see support for it. The FFmpeg integration I mentioned previously goes into the same category. I doubt that Radionomy will dedicate all of it's resources on the future development of Winamp and hire a large team to work on it full time. But who knows, it would be great if they did.

STREAMING SERVICES AND MARKETING

If we start to think that Winamp and SHOUTcast should be set up against other streaming services (like Spotify for example) there shouldn't be several products like Winamp the media player, Winamp Cloud (if it ever will be) and SHOUTcast. They should be combined under a single brand like Winamp Music. Again I point out that many options create confusion. Also as was said before SHOUTcast is currently very different from services like Spotify and it's very purpose is different.

There should also be more visibility in (international) media especially trough channels that the common man uses. I'm from Finland so I don't really know how visible Winamp and SHOUTcast are in the US (for example) but here they are pretty much unknown for everyone who isn't tech savvy.

The would be competition

Almost everyone who listens to digital music here in Finland at least knows of Spotify (I've never paid for a subscription but have bought a lot of individual tracks when it was still possible). It's the only service that has I've seen really marketed for the general public (through FM radio advertising for example).

Google Play Music (I'm a subscriber) and Xbox Music (I was a subscriber) are both also already available here but for now they aren't widely known and unfortunately it is going to stay this way as long as they are being mainly marketed only through Andoid, Xbox and Windows (Phone).

iTunes of course has the advantage of being the pioneer in digital media distribution but even it is not that well known here and it is falling behind because it doesn't offer similar subscription options and is available only on iPhone and iPad (on the mobile side). If Apple want's to stay in the competition they need to wake up and start to offer their services on other platforms as well or they will end up like Nokia did with mobile phones. Microsoft has already done this with Xbox Music and also with Office Mobile and other products.

Localization

This would be important for the software and services to gain global market share. All of the previously mentioned "would be competitors" are available in finnish. I like to use english when ever I can mainly because technical stuff often doesn't translate that well into finnish but the common man should be able to use it in their native language.

The current translation system should be much simpler if it remains community driven. I've translated some programs into finnish and have though about translating Winamp too for a long time but I simply do not have the time to learn the current translation system. There are also some services like Transifex (XBMC for example uses it) to make community driven translation easier. Not an easy task I'm sure and would most likely require a lot of changes to the base product.

Finally there would be the need to provide support and service on a much larger scale if Winamp and/or SHOUTcast would be made into something more than products for the community like they pretty much are today.

First and foremost Winamp should be made into a newer, more streamlined, more simplified and even more modern version that can rise back to being the number one media player it once was, so very many years ago.

I thank you for reading if you ever got this far
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1.) what happen to shoutcast?
without it winamp is no good to me!

there station i listing to that are only on shoutcast!

2.) why is the download listed in the forum not on main download page?

winamp got cheesy for some reason?

sorry i going to look for see who has shoutcast in their player so i get back to listing to startion's again.

i really don't care if winamp been taken over by new owner! that not my bag, just my enjoyment seen gone down hill

nvm i just read winamp and shoutcast both got trash my Microsoft totally and shoutcast AOL sold them out!
source http://www.digitaltrends.com/computi...player/#!yXJ8I
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I've been using Winamp for around 5 years now, and just wanted to let the new developers know that whatever changes you make please do not take away the feature which allows you to add/save radio station streams into your bookmarks. This is the key reason why i have stayed with Winamp for so long, and why i use Winamp daily, and i know there are many others out their like me.

Do not neglect internet radio! This would be a disaster for you. Make winamp the best place on the interwebs to stream your favourite radio stations.


EDIT: Also if you built into the new Winamp, DFX Audio Enhancer, I'm sure that would win you lots of users as it makes such a big difference to the quality of the sound.

Thanks

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Old 11th March 2014, 07:05   #141
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As you all surely know by now, Winamp & SHOUTcast have recently changed ownership (from AOL to Radionomy).

The winamp.com website is currently undergoing heavy work and an almost-completely new redesign.
As a result, many features will be unavailable, including some in-client services.

The Winamp downloads and Winamp Pro purchases will also be temporarily unavailable
whilst code licensed to/by the previous owner is removed/replaced.

We hope to have everything restored and back in working order as soon as possible,
and we apologize for any inconvenience caused in the meantime.

Watch this thread for any further updates.

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See also:
Winamp Downloads
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Update patches for current Winamp Release

The above links are not winamp downloads. Do download them they are "dupe Links"

When is the site going let download winamp again.
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Old 11th March 2014, 07:41   #142
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The links at the Beginning of the thread are not WINAMP downloads. Why they were posted is beyound me.
Really! What are they then for you? They link to Winamp (last version released) and Winamp related stuff for me.

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Old 11th March 2014, 15:51   #143
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The above links are not winamp downloads. Do download them they are "dupe Links"

When is the site going let download winamp again.
Those are the current download links for Winamp. Since the "current" version is the final release from Nullsoft/AOL (and AOL no longer owns Nullsoft), until we get a Nullsoft/Radionomy release, the link won't come back.

edit: Honestly, I think a lot of the sound quality thing is a placebo effect. Yes, source and higher bitrate may sound a bit better, but not to the point where the average music listener can discern a large enough difference to really care.
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Old 11th March 2014, 17:25   #144
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Please. . .

. . .get this up and running. My 2-3 year old version keeps crashing when I try to shift songs from computer to ipod. I've used winamp to manage my ipod forever and I need it back! Thanks.

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Old 11th March 2014, 17:37   #145
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rather than trying to use a 2-3 year old version (as people need to be using current Winamp releases otherwise there's no point in trying to have a dev team), try using one from 4 months ago as a lot of fixes have been made since the build you're using which may help with whatever the issue is.

and if it doesn't, then the last build available (5.666 build 3516 and after applying the in_mp3 and gen_jumpex dlls from http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=156839#known2) is a lot easier to try to determine the cause of issues compared to ones prior to any of the releases made in 2013. especially with the 5.66x builds including a crash reporter.

and we're doing what we can as fast as we can to be in a position to be able to provide a non-AOL release, but it's going to take time to do it. and it's not like the last version isn't bad to use anyway (as that's what i was trying to help do when it looked like Winamp was going to die - which obviously is not the case now).
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. . .get this up and running. My 2-3 year old version keeps crashing when I try to shift songs from computer to ipod. I've used winamp to manage my ipod forever and I need it back! Thanks.
You tried upgrading?

Winamp 5.63 w/ ml_ipod works great for me and my Ipod classic 120gb
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http://winamp.dpedu.io/

Not another index of the old Winamp.com, this is different (I think), it has Plugins, Skins & Vis properly sorted into a few folders (i.e. Skins are grouped by style "../Skins/SUI Skins/").

Apparently there is everything..

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New Winamp Needs for me to buy it:

If you allow me to create my own radio playlists in the winamp player such that I can organize them MY WAY (instead of ABC or some other "so-called" logical way) then I will BUY a Winamp Pro. Without this feature I will not even bother, as I can use iTunes if I want mandatory ABC radio playlist order.

Also, Winamp versions I have used in the past did NOT allow radio playlists.

Also, if in the PRO version, you had a easy skin maker interface so that we could make our own skins, And be able to customize it such that we could have bigger buttons (so that we could actually click on them easily) it would be very cool!

Winamp's accessibility issues were HUGE! Bento Big (I think it was called) was brilliant! All other skins did not work. The buttons were hard to find, and completely unintuitive. The F1 skin, was very cool, but useless.

This goes without saying, but.....the new winamp must have language support for ALL languages! I should not have to jump through hoops for the player to accept Hebrew, Russian, or any other non-Latin LTR language. yes, I do listen to music in Russian, Hebrew, Arabic, Finnish, Japanese, Polish and Czech - as well as the more common languages (German, French, English). My eclectic music taste has eclectic music taste.

Lastly, those of us with colour processing issues, will not be as pleased if we can't choose our own text colour and background colours. This is the number one issue 95% of the web content and downloads do wrong. They think we don't exist. This can be easily remedied if we can simply use a colour picker.

Thanks! And yes, if the only concession I get is radio playlist my way (in that I can organize them in any fashion I want and have as many as I want) then I will still buy. I can deal with the rest, as I've had to before.

I will say that I LOVE to have the option to download the pls file. Why? I like to microscopically organize my radio playlist as I have a listening pool of over 100 stations in many different genres. AND some stations within the same genre, I will not listen to as they aren't my type. They might play "punk, rock, rap, industrial, goth, etc." so they say, but really be mostly alternative. Or they may list themselves as symphonic metal but play tons of scream black metal.

Thanks! And yes, I am familiar with radionomy. I use radionomy and tuneIN.
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Old 12th March 2014, 11:54   #149
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you make a play list in the transcoder, the transcoder connects to the DNAS server and starts playing the playlist when there is no live DSP connected to the transcoder which maintains the schedule and stream

so if you have a $20 dedicated server for your website, you can run your transcoder on the same box, and send the stream to some remote 1000mbs host with your DNAS server on

if you have the money, you can have a dedicated cpu core for each SID channel, and push the stability upto 5000 clients a server
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How long until?...

Good morning most sacred llamas,
(hehehe)
Do you know, and can you tell us, how long until the downloads are available. I received a new computer at work and the IT guys didn't move the winamp program when they were transferring my files. the Media Player sucks! I miss my winamp.

thank you,
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Old 13th March 2014, 09:55   #151
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there is no eta (other than it'll take longer for every "when will there be a new build" post i have to reply to) but there are alternative links in the second post...
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Old 13th March 2014, 12:05   #152
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Good morning most sacred llamas,
(hehehe)
Do you know, and can you tell us, how long until the downloads are available. I received a new computer at work and the IT guys didn't move the winamp program when they were transferring my files. the Media Player sucks! I miss my winamp.

thank you,
sft

just download it off a download site

http://www.filehippo.com/download_winamp/
http://download.cnet.com/Winamp/3000...-10251792.html
http://winamp.en.softonic.com/
http://www.oldapps.com/winamp.php

Be sure to apply the recommended update patches after:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....373755#updates
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Old 13th March 2014, 13:01   #153
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thank you port for the download link
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Old 13th March 2014, 14:00   #154
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There are outdated builds in some of those links, it's better to refer to the links in the second post of this thread (where you can also find links to skins and plugin web sites): http://forums.winamp.com/showpost.ph...99&postcount=2

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Old 14th March 2014, 00:00   #155
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you won`t notice the difference of .665 and .666 over windows media player
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Old 14th March 2014, 08:22   #156
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you certainly will notice a difference as that's why there were a number of 5.66x releases (though I don't know what you're referring to as .665 as there was no release of that number).

either way, the links in the second post of this thread (whch is very clesrly seen) and in the known issues thread are the only downloads recommended to be used over what was posted a few up from this post.
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Old 14th March 2014, 15:31   #157
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but you wont notice much difference if you force to using windows media player in the meantime, everything about media player on windows 7 is slow and tedius if it does`nt crash when you double click on a few file to play
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Old 18th March 2014, 00:38   #158
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p0rt, your entire post seems to imply that one *will* notice a difference.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Winamp offer a portable install option? (i.e., the stuff that would save to AppData gets saved to the same path as the install folder)
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Old 18th March 2014, 12:26   #159
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will we lose our pro status

I have been pro on winamp since 4 0ctober 2008. will I Have to buy a new subscription?
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Old 19th March 2014, 01:25   #160
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New Winamp

Does anyone know when Radionomy will release winamp?
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