Old 29th March 2007, 13:37   #161
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Re: Re: vista cd burning and shoutcast wire downloads

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aperture01:
I'm getting the same result in Vista 64. Are you running 32 or 64?

DJ Egg:
Is Winamp 5.34 intended to work on Vista 32 and/or 64? I have found this release to be EXTREMELY bug-free and stable under Vista 64 except for the above problem so far. I would be happy to help with testing on this problem or dig into the issues as long as it's not a forgone conclusion that it's not going to work because Sonic still hasn't sorted out the Vista problems, etc.

Thanks in advance! - D
I'm getting the same error on Vista 32. It's actually an error that occurs before burning can even commence. At this point, it seems to be a bug in Vista. Winamp launches a background task to do the burn, and the commandline passed to this task becomes corrupted by having weird additional characters inserted.

for example, starts the process with this commandline:
winamp /burn="D,c:\users\winamp\appdata\local\temp\brn_4853.m3u,2433"

but the commandline received in the background process was
winamp /burn="D,c:\users\wi?na?mp\appdata\local\temp\brn?4853.m3u,2433"
with those inserted question marks.
very strange!
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Re: Re: Winamp 5.34 Beta Preview 3 - ML Double Click or Enter Options

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[Edit --> DJ Egg]
No. The 'double-click or enter in media library' options in "Prefs > Media Library > Options" only affect ml_local and ml_playlists (and maybe ml_history too), but not any of the other ml plugins (disc, bookmarks, online, wire, dash, np, pmp).

The "Various media library accessibility/focus issues" mainly relate to broken accessibilty functions for the visually impaired.
Bummer.

Ok, known bug then. Add it to the list.

Thanks for the reply DJ Egg.
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Old 29th March 2007, 15:26   #163
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No. It's not a bug. It's either: by design, or an unimplemented feature.
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Old 30th March 2007, 17:08   #164
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Did anyone try the files from the problem that I posted below
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....53#post2162353

I was just trying to see if it was only my machine or if other people had the same problem. I have been trying different things and I would like to make sure that I am not the only one having this issue.

Devs, if you need any more information from me, please let me know.
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Old 30th March 2007, 17:55   #165
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Yes Juanus, sorry, it's being looked into. Thanks.
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burning continued

yeah i'm running vista 32. same problem though, it's right before the burning and commence. 5.34 is actually the most stable winamp i've run in a while I hope they get that problem fixed because I haven't burned a cd in months, i'm still listening to my "november mix 2006 of awesomeness" and trust me it's not so awesome anymore.
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Not sure if it is a change in this particular version, I just noticed it now...but I've found that the number of characters I can have in a ML smart view string has reduced compared to what I used to be able to have. Is this intentional and if so, how come?
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I can't playback any CD on 5.34 (it crashes while connecting to CDDB). I had problems with playback in 5.33 too, after 2 or 3 seconds of playback the sound was screwd up
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Old 1st April 2007, 11:35   #169
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Sorry, but we can't reproduce the problem. Please submit a proper bug report (system specs, Windows OS, confiirmation of a clean install of Winamp 5.34 beta 1195 with no 3rd-party plugins, method of reproduction, crash report logs).
Are you running multiple instances of Winamp at the time?


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Hmm, I'm not sure. What was the character limit before, and what is it now?
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I'm getting the same error on Vista 32. It's actually an error that occurs before burning can even commence. At this point, it seems to be a bug in Vista. Winamp launches a background task to do the burn, and the commandline passed to this task becomes corrupted by having weird additional characters inserted.

for example, starts the process with this commandline:
winamp /burn="D,c:\users\winamp\appdata\local\temp\brn_4853.m3u,2433"

but the commandline received in the background process was
winamp /burn="D,c:\users\wi?na?mp\appdata\local\temp\brn?4853.m3u,2433"
with those inserted question marks.
very strange!
Benski, thanks for your reply. I agree, this is really strange. However, I wasn't able to find anybody reporting a case of general command line corruption in Vista so this could be one of the rare cases where a problem is not due to a Vista bug .

I assume the background process is the Sonic burn engine. If so, it sounds more like a bug in the development environment or in some library being used by Sonic. It's also possible that it could simply be some environmental issue with Vista because of the weird UAC rules.

Are you seeing those inserted questions marks exactly as they are displayed above? Are they always in the same position or does it change. It's very weird because 2 of the question marks are inserted but one of them has replaced an existing character.

Btw, there is no "Winamp" directory tree on my system under "Users" - did you mean "c:\users\administrator\...\temp"? That's where Winamp is putting files on my system, along with a couple of other locations. I was probably logged in as administrator when I installed Winamp.

Is there a switch somewhere to turn on Sonic logging (or any other burn logging) or can you only see this commandline corruption in a debug session?

Thanks - D
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Re: smart view query limit
I have never found any limit before...I think I've had about 400 characters without a problem.
Currently, it limits at 254. I can type more characters in and press ok on it, but then it automatically crops it down to 254.
Right now I actually do have 3rd party plug-ins installed on this build, so not sure what would cause it.
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Benski, thanks for your reply. I agree, this is really strange. However, I wasn't able to find anybody reporting a case of general command line corruption in Vista so this could be one of the rare cases where a problem is not due to a Vista bug .

I assume the background process is the Sonic burn engine. If so, it sounds more like a bug in the development environment or in some library being used by Sonic. It's also possible that it could simply be some environmental issue with Vista because of the weird UAC rules.

Are you seeing those inserted questions marks exactly as they are displayed above? Are they always in the same position or does it change. It's very weird because 2 of the question marks are inserted but one of them has replaced an existing character.

Btw, there is no "Winamp" directory tree on my system under "Users" - did you mean "c:\users\administrator\...\temp"? That's where Winamp is putting files on my system, along with a couple of other locations. I was probably logged in as administrator when I installed Winamp.

Is there a switch somewhere to turn on Sonic logging (or any other burn logging) or can you only see this commandline corruption in a debug session?

Thanks - D
Ended up being a compiler bug (ergh!) It will be fixed in 5.34

ps "winamp" is my username on this particular vista box
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Old 2nd April 2007, 20:45   #173
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The ML Smart View query limit bug has been fixed in the latest internal builds. Thanks.
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Awesome! Thanks DJ Egg.
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Any estimate of Release of 5.34 yet? Thanks for all your hard work on this, especially the FLAC 1.1.4 support including FLAC tags.
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Old 3rd April 2007, 06:33   #176
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And here it is:



this is after a normal close. no problems with handles on files this time since they were just mp3s i was transcoding from.

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When it's done.
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Winamp Essentials Pack v5.34 Beta

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Changelog:

- New: [Installer] full translation support
- New: [Installer] Polish translation by Pawel Porwisz, www.pepesoft.tox.pl
- New: [Installer] Russian translation by BoyNG - http://SidY.ru
- New: [Installer] Spanish translation by Manufco - Manuel Fernando Gutiérrez
- New: [Installer] French translation by pimousse38 - www.pimousse38.hbg.fr/skin_winamp
- New: [Installer] Turkish translation by Mertcan Kaya
- New: [Installer] German translation
- New: [Installer] new installer graphic. Woot!!
- Improved: [Installer] reworked internal sections descriptions system to be more flexible
- Updated: Lite-n Preferences to v1.3a
- Updated: Playlist Undo to v0.5.4
- Updated: Skins in a Submenu to v1.8
- Updated: ml_lite-n to v1.0a
- Updated: Predixis/MusicIP Removal Tool to v1.5
- Updated: [Installer] to NSIS 2.25

Notes:

1. All plug-ins, which are bundled in this pack are compatible with Winamp 5.34. They won't break Unicode in the taskbar.

Visit DrO's site for more information:
http://nunzioweb.com/daz/releases.html

2. The installer is now translatable, I'm still looking for translations, if you can translate the installer in your language, take a look at this thread:

Link

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Re: Winamp 5.34 Beta Preview 3 - ML Double Click or Enter Options

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No. It's not a bug.
It's either: by design, or an unimplemented feature.
No disrespect intended DJ Egg ... but if ...

the triggering of the exact same command
with the identical setup of respective settings
produces inverted results on a ML SmartView vs a ML Playlist

... does NOT qualify as a bug ... than what can?

I am the first to agree that there is conversation to be had on how the items
I've noted should perform. But having them inconsistent with one another?
That is a bug in my opinion. And one should be corrected so that it behaves like
the other (whichever is determined to be the correct/expected result).
I'm not saying this change needs be made in v5.34, but at some point.

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Stop arguing with me :-p

It's an unimplemented feature.

The "Media Library > Library Options > Double click or Enter Options" are currently for Local Media and Playlists only, and no other ML nodes. They don't affect Rip & Burn, Online Services, Dashboard, Now Playing, Bookmarks, Portables, or Wire. For them to do so would be a feature request for the Wishlist, and would require a fair amount of work to implement.

Talking of feature requests, I think for now, I/we'd rather see History, Bookmarks, and "Send To" from Local Media views all support unicode first...
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Stop arguing with me :-p
It's an unimplemented feature.
My apologies DJ Egg, you misread my tone. Not trying to be a jerk, just trying to explain my point of view as I think you may be misunderstanding me. If this would be easier to talk about over email let me know.
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The "Media Library > Library Options > Double click or Enter Options" are currently for Local Media and Playlists only, and no other ML nodes.
Did you read my post!? I am reporting inverted behavior between these very two objects. The Local Media SmartViews and the Playlists do not perform the same way given the same action.
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They don't affect Rip & Burn, Online Services, Dashboard, Now Playing, Bookmarks, Portables, or Wire. For them to do so would be a feature request for the Wishlist, and would require a fair amount of work to implement.
Well actually, I know for a fact these options DO affect Rip & Burn, but I understand now that they were not built to do so ... just an unintended side affect. I agree that when it comes to Rip & Burn, Online Services, Dashboard, Now Playing, Bookmarks, Portables, or Wire this would be a feature request.

But what I'm logging is an issue with Local Media and Playlists
as it relates to the "Double Click or Enter Options"
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No, you've lost me

The post you linked to in your previous reply relates to a comparison between the "Double Click & Enter" behaviour in Local Media and Rip & Burn.

If it's one of the posts further down in that thread, then my brain started to hurt after about the 2nd or 3rd post ;-)
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Using build 1195, my (no album) view in the ML still shows nothing. Says I have 322 tracks with no album but doesn't show any of them when I click it under Albums. This is using a Smart View for all files ending in .mp3 with a Genre/Album filter.

Also get nothing when using the "Audio" view.

Here's my plugins incase I'm using an old version of something:

Installed Winamp plugin list
Generated by 'One for Nunz v2.2'

Winamp.ini path is: C:\Program Files\Winamp5\Winamp.ini
Plugin directory is: C:\Program Files\Winamp5\Plugins
Using Winamp version: 5.34


<< Input plugins >>

Nullsoft CD plug-in (CDDB2) v3.32 [in_cdda.dll]
Nullsoft DirectShow Decoder v1.02 [in_dshow.dll]
Nullsoft FLAC Decoder 2.0 (FLAC 1.1.4) [in_flac.dll]
Nullsoft LineIn plug-in v3.11 [in_linein.dll]
Nullsoft MIDI player 3.14 [in_midi.dll]
Nullsoft Module Decoder v2.2.3 (x86) [in_mod.dll]
Nullsoft MPEG Audio Decoder 4.05 [in_mp3.dll]
Nullsoft MPEG-4 Audio Decoder v1.21 [in_mp4.dll]
Nullsoft NSV Decoder v1.07 [in_nsv.dll]
Nullsoft Quicktime Decoder v0.2 [in_qt.dll]
Nullsoft Vorbis Decoder v1.49 [in_vorbis.dll]
Nullsoft Waveform Decoder 3.12 [in_wave.dll]
Nullsoft Windows Media Decoder 3.25 [in_wm.dll]

<< Output plugins >>

Nullsoft Disk Writer plug-in v2.11 [out_disk.dll]
DirectSound output v2.46 (d) [out_ds.dll]
waveOut output v2.1 (d) [out_wave.dll]

<< Visualisation plugins >>

Advanced Visualization Studio v2.81d [vis_avs.dll]
MilkDrop 1.04d [vis_milk.dll]
Mojo Master Visualizer [vis_MojoMaster.dll]
Nullsoft Tiny Fullscreen (v2.08) [vis_nsfs.dll]

<< DSP plugins >>

No plugins of this type are installed

<< General Purpose plugins >>

Nullsoft Error Feedback v1.0b [gen_crasher.dll]
Nullsoft Modern Skins Support v1.26 [gen_ff.dll]
Nullsoft Global Hotkeys v1.31 [gen_hotkeys.dll]
Jump To File Extra v0.99 (Build 333) [gen_jumpex.dll]
Nullsoft Winamp Library v3.11 [gen_ml.dll]
Now Playing plug-in v2.1.2 [gen_NowPlaying.dll]
One for Nunz v2.2 [gen_nunzio.dll]
nView Fixer v1.0 [gen_nviewfix.dll]
Skins In Submenu v1.7 [gen_skinsubmenu.dll]
Tips v0.62 [gen_tips.dll]
Toaster for Winamp Classic v0.7.8 [gen_toaster.dll]
Nullsoft Tray Control v2.0 [gen_tray.dll]
Darkling Wakeup by joepezT [gen_Wake_up_call.dll]

<< Media Library plugins >>

Nullsoft Dashboard v1.01 [ml_dash.dll] [ml_bkmk.dll]
Nullsoft Now Playing v2.02 [ml_nowplaying.dll] [ml_bookmarks.dll]
Nullsoft Bookmarks v1.03 [ml_bookmarks.dll] [ml_dash.dll]
Nullsoft History v1.03 [ml_history.dll] [ml_disc.dll]
Nullsoft Local Media v1.6 [ml_local.dll] [ml_history.dll]
Nullsoft Playlists v1.08 [ml_playlists.dll] [ml_local.dll]
Nullsoft Rip & Burn v1.13 [ml_disc.dll] [ml_nowplaying.dll]
ML Bookmark Categoriser v0.7.4 [ml_bkmk.dll] [ml_online.dll]
Nullsoft Online Services v1.4 [ml_online.dll] [ml_playlists.dll]
Nullsoft Replay Gain Analyzer v1.03 [ml_rg.dll]
Nullsoft Format Converter v2.1 [ml_transcode.dll]
Nullsoft SHOUTcast Wire v1.09 [ml_wire.dll]
ml_www v0.6.0 alpha 3 [ml_www.dll]
MusicIP Mix v1.1 [ml_xpdxs.dll]


<< Summary of installed plugins >>

13 Input plugins installed
3 Output plugins installed
4 Visualisation plugins installed
0 DSP plugin installed
13 General Purpose plugins installed
14 Media Library plugins installed

Total: 47 plugins installed
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Old 5th April 2007, 13:11   #184
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Yup. Reproduced.

Strangely enough, I don't remember having this problem before it was supposed to be fixed :-D
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Old 5th April 2007, 14:58   #185
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Quote:
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Ended up being a compiler bug (ergh!) It will be fixed in 5.34
Yay! Great job.

Any way to get this out pre-release so the Vista 64 beta testers can see if recording works across all available environments?
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Winamp 5.34 Beta, Build 1239 (Preview 4) is now available.

The first post has been updated accordingly

Changelog between Builds 1195 and 1239
* Improved: Various Media Library resize flicker fixes
* Improved: GDI+ video rendering for Windows Vista
* Improved: [gen_ff] Better handling of invalid XML during skin load
* Improved: [ml_local] Unicode drag+drop and Send-To support
* Improved: [pmp_ipod] Better gapless playback handling of ipod nano
* Improved/Fixed: [enc_wav] Implemented acm options / minor bug fixes*
* Fixed: CD Burning on Windows Vista
* Fixed: [jnetlib] Memory leak (manifested itself when eg. pmp devices are connected)*
* Fixed: [in_cdda] CD-Text adds to end of cddb fields instead of clearing first
* Fixed: [in_flac] Distortion with some files without rg info when using +dB preamp*
* Fixed: [gen_ml] Node alignment bug :-)
* Fixed: [ml_local] (no album) shows no results*
* Fixed: [ml_local] Smart View query character limit (256->1024)*
* Fixed: [ml_local] Reindexer tweaks/improvements*
* Fixed: [ml_playlists] drag+drop playlists to main & pledit windows*
* Fixed: [ml_transcode] Now prevents same source and destination filename
* Fixed: [ml_wire] Crash when encountering certain non-xml feeds
* Misc: 2007 copyright updates; more fields for tagz; faster DNS lookups for streams (a single cached JNL_AsyncDNS object is now used for all connections); various other misc tweaks

* 5.34-beta-specific

_______________________________________________________________________


Additional Notes

Re: GDI+ video rendering for Windows Vista:

This is now the default rendering mode under Vista (which afaik, is the only OS to support GDI+ by default / out-of-the-box).

You can force GDIPlus rendering on other OS'es by using the following setting in winamp.ini:

video_gdiplus=1

Note: the default setting is video_gdiplus=0

ie. video_gdiplus is an override to use it on something other than Vista.


If GDI+ fails to load it'll then try overlay mode and then try ddraw mode.

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Re: * Improved: [ml_local] Unicode drag+drop and Send-To support:

You can now drag+drop (or use the Send-To menu) to send unicode filenames/titles from the Local Media views to:
-ML Playlists
-Rip & Burn (CD Burner on X:)

Alas, ml_bookmarks and ml_pmp still don't support unicode, but support is planned for 5.35 or later (along with ml_history)

For ml_playlists, you need to make sure that the stored Media Library Playlist was created with 5.33 or later, because playlists created with older versions were stored as ansi .m3u, whereas they are now stored as unicode .m3u8

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Build 1239 specific issues

The cursor doesn't change for drag+drop from Local Media views to Pledit *

Show Info button doesn't disable properly when unchecking it in Prefs *

Classic Pledit window flicker/redraw bug when dragging external windows over it *

Shift/Ctrl+Enter not working in JTF window *

Typing unicode chars into JTF search not working *


* = fixed internally
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just updated to Beta 4...

- the "Show Info" button in the ML smartviews remains even if the box to display it is unchecked in the preferences. the button disappears when it is clicked, but returns when another smartview is loaded.

- in Portables->Ipod, hitting the E key still pops up the "Edit Item Info" without CTRL

- also in Portables->Ipod, the container that holds the song info in the main smartview (not the playlists) seems to be a bit longer height-wise than it should be and covers up the bottom portion of the window. in the attached file, the left shows what it looks like once the smartview is loaded. the right shows what happens if the scrollbar is clicked.
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Old 6th April 2007, 02:35   #188
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Thanks for the update.

But, track update bug for CD, (just updated from CDDB) is still there (see the screenshot).

Also, still gaps between tracks with Sonic engine. Not sure though what that engine is and do I want to use it or not.

Finally there is some minor problem with screen refresh (see the screenshot). It appears when there is more than one track in the playlist (ok with one track only).
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Old 6th April 2007, 10:46   #189
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@ fashizzle

The "Show Info" bug is probably related to the "various media library resize flicker fixes", and will hopefully be fixed for 5.34 Final. Thanks.

I'll leave the pmp_ipod issues for Will/Benski to comment on
(sorry, I don't have an iPod)


@ composer

We still can't reproduce your cddb problem.
Not unless you've got "read metadata when files are played" checkmarked in Prefs > Titles, which is then expected behaviour, and you should change it to "read metadata when files are loaded" instead.

The "gaps" issue is still listed in the known issues section of the first post in the thread.

If you uncheck "Use Sonic engine" in Prefs > Plugins > Input > in_cdda > config, then Winamp will attempt to use ASPI or SPTI (native WinNT SCSI pass-through interface) for CD playback instead, and gapless playback still works ok with those.

I'm not sure about the "screen refresh" problem, but I think that one's been around for many years with the classic skin (eg. when you drag another/external window over it).
[edit] Okay, it looks like it's related to the latest ml resize flicker fixes, and should be fixed for 5.34 Final.
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I'm experiencing a strange problem with out_ds.dll
I've isolated to something going on between out_ds.dll and DirectX. What happens, when using out_ds.dll as the output plugin, the sound gets distorted but it's only noticeable on select tracks and when there is a difference it is quite noticeable. When using out_wave.dll or out_gapless.dll it sounds normal. When played in Media Player Classic configured for DirectShow it sounds normal as well.

When looking at the nvmixer, when looking at it's spectrum analyzer and vu meters, the sound and volumes look very different. The right channel for example hardly shows up at all (which makes no sense since i can hear it). When using any other before mentioned output methods sound looks normal.

I tried installing an older version of out_ds.dll by getting an early copy of 5.1 but that version had the same problem. It's probably some weird state of DLL hell, exasperated by a funky DirectSound implementation in out_ds.dll, twiddling with out_ds.dll's settings did nothing (of interest to this bug).

It's a Realtek ALC850, and it's DirectX 9.0c (4.09.00.0904); I have the latest versions of my drivers installed. Because of this i've switched to the gapless output (So the volume isn't controling the wave volume).
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Old 6th April 2007, 13:54   #191
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No problems running the latest preview, but I though I should mention this little spelling error.



"Silenty"

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So far the latest preview works great with the pmp_ipod. Excellent work! I was able to sync all of my files and no crash at the end. Beautiful!

Only error that I have seen so far is that when you try to delete a playlist, it still crashes.

Under your ipod, if you right click a playlist,
choose 'Remove Playlist' or 'Remove Playlist and Files'
then winamp crashes and does not delete the playlist or the files.
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Old 6th April 2007, 21:21   #193
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Beta4 (Build 1239)

Hey.. I just downloaded 5.34 Beta4 and im impressed. The "Jump to file" bug when pushing arrow down after searching is fixed (very good).
But some bugs are not fixed yet (like the "TV Button" in the video window etc..) But the beta4 version is working great so far.

Good Work developers. =)
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Old 6th April 2007, 21:56   #194
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It would be nice if someone could confirm whether CD Burning is fixed on Windows Vista, and also if video playback is any better using GDI+ (also on Windows Vista).


@ Melkor
Hmm, strange. Alas, we can't reproduce the problem

@ Aserone
Thanks. Typo is fixed for 5.34 final.

@ Juanus
Thanks. The "delete playlist from ipod" issue will hopefully be looked into...

@ Kn0tte
I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think the TV button can be made to work with ml_online
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Old 6th April 2007, 23:52   #195
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I'm not sure if this is a bug, intended behavior, or what. But, with any newly imported MP3 file, the Media Library will give it an Album Artist even when the band tag is empty. When you look at the file information, the Album Artist field is empty. Seems like the Media Library just assume's that an empty album artist/band tag should be the same as the Artist/Trackartist within it's views. Just makes it a little confusing when trying to determine if songs have an empty Album Artist(band) field or not.

I do like the fact that an Album Artist field is now there and that Winamp will fill it in during ripping.. I have a number of compilation/mix CDs that have a main mixing DJ and then each Track has it's own artist. I've attached an image to show what I mean.

Oh yeah, using version beta 1239 now and can confirm that the (no album) view does work now.
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Old 6th April 2007, 23:56   #196
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It's intended behaviour, because that's the way Benski likes it :-)
(his Audio view is set to AlbumArtist/Album filter)
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Old 7th April 2007, 00:11   #197
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Thanks,

I was wondering if that wasn't the case. Since I can now take advantage of it, I'll go back and retag my stuff. Will come up with some method of handling these files by putting in 'NA' or 'Unknown' or just a space... or just let them be LOL..
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Old 7th April 2007, 02:09   #198
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We still can't reproduce your cddb problem.
Not unless you've got "read metadata when files are played" checkmarked in Prefs > Titles, which is then expected behaviour, and you should change it to "read metadata when files are loaded" instead.[/B]
You are missing "or viewed in the playlist editor" further in that same line!!! If I can view them(and make a screenshot), metadata should be read, too!

Now I have attached the screenshot showing wrong display together with settings.
With these settings(default), expected behaviour is to update all titles that are visible in the playlist editor(and not update those which are not visible), which is not the case as you can see.

And, of course, expected behaviour is something the same always - be titles just downloaded from CDDB or if you play CD again (titles already in local database), or you play any other files in any other way.

What you see in the screenshot, happens only when just connected to CDDB; if played same CD again, everything is OK. And it is also ok, if you play any other files.

If I change setting to first choice(read metadata when files are loaded)then everything is OK, behaviour is as expected and all titles updated even immediately after download from CDDB (but it is not the recommended setting, and is so for the reason).
Bottom choice (read metadata when files played) also works ok - titles displayed one by one no matter what you play.
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Old 7th April 2007, 02:24   #199
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I can't reproduce the problem :/

Anyone else?

If either of 'when loaded' or 'when viewed or played' are selected, then all the cddb titles load instantly for me. It's only when 'played' is selected that I can reproduce it, which is expected behaviour.

Loaded is my recommended setting, btw. I wouldn't dream of using anything else.
The only time you might experience a problem with 'loaded' is if you're loading thousands of files at once into the pledit, and not via a saved/stored playlist file.
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... Anyone else? ...
Looks like a timing thing similar to the old CDReader behaviour.

With 'Read when viewed' the Playlist editor starts to update immediately using whatever metadata is available at the time. i.e it starts outputting to the PE before any info is fetched. CDDB will kick in around half way through with my connection.
By contrast, 'Read when loaded' will do the CDDB look up before outputting to PE.

Play CD
Alt+3 - remove titles
Play > Audio CD

[additional] loading from the ML will not show this as it does a lookup before passing to the PE, neither will Play > Audio CD with the PE closed since CDDB will be in place when it's opened later.

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