Old 7th August 2005, 20:17   #1
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The hunt for the racist killers of a black teenager who was left with an axe embedded in his skull in an unprovoked attack is continuing.

A-Level student Anthony Walker, 18, died in hospital after a gang of up to four white men attacked him in Huyton, Merseyside, on Friday.

He had been taunted at a bus stop with his white girlfriend and a male cousin. They fled but were set upon in a park.

Police believe the killers are local, and want the community to give them up.

'Torrent of abuse'

Mr Walker had spent the evening with his girlfriend, who attended the same sixth-form college in Huyton.

Merseyside Police said that as the couple waited for a bus outside the Huyton Park pub with Mr Walker's cousin they were subjected to a "torrent of racial abuse" by a man in his 20s wearing a hooded top.

Police want to trace two men who were seen talking to the man shortly after he hurled the abuse.

Mr Walker and his companions did not retaliate to the abuse and left to find another bus stop. But they were followed and as they walked through McGoldrick Park they were attacked by a gang of three or four men.

Mr Walker's girlfriend and cousin saw a man carrying an axe bludgeon him, and ran to get help. When they returned minutes later they found him slumped on the ground with massive head injuries.

The axe was embedded in his skull.

Police hope CCTV footage from a camera just yards away from where Mr Walker was attacked will provide vital clues.

Mr Walker was taken to Whiston Hospital and later transferred to Walton neurological centre where he died at 0525 BST on Saturday.

'Despicable act'

Merseyside Police Assistant Chief Constable Bernard Lawson said: "What we are dealing with here is an unprovoked and vicious attack on a young black man which we believe to be racially motivated.

"This was a despicable act and we are absolutely determined to find the people responsible."

Mr Lawson urged local people to help catch the killers.

"We believe the offenders are local and we believe it is the responsibility of the local community to give these people up," he said.

"There are a lot of decent people in the local area who are absolutely shocked at what has happened."

Police said there have been a series of racially motivated attacks in the area, and were not ruling out a connection.

Several floral tributes have been left at the scene of the murder.

Mr Walker was a churchgoer who was also a keen basketball player. The BBC's Richard Wells said local people had told him that those who knew him said he "wouldn't hurt a fly".

Mr Lawson added: "Anthony was a young Christian studying for his A-levels and wanting to be a lawyer.

"Those dreams for him and his family are now dashed."
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Old 7th August 2005, 20:19   #2
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Old 7th August 2005, 20:25   #3
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Yeah, so much for my thinking that UK were becoming more open-minded to foreigners...
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Uhh, bit late? They've already got some suspects one of them being a footballer's brother from Man. City. Uh, not too clear whether they have charged anyone, though.
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Yeah, so much for my thinking that UK were becoming more open-minded to foreigners...
Too bad racism is an international thing...

That's fucking disgusting, though...The demographic and geological area kinda surprise me, but that doesn't really matter, does it?

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Why couldn't they do that to the guy that threw the puppy off of the balcony? At least that asshole would've deserved it.
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Uhh, bit late?
Yeah I heard about this like a week ago...
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Yeah, so much for my thinking that UK were becoming more open-minded to foreigners...
Realise that this young man was natively British, born to a family who were British. It was a rascist attack by a group of morons who our society has no control over.
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OK, I should have written "non-whites" in place of "foreigners" - but for some reason, I didn't want to.
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And I was naive enough to believe that blacks were only targeted in the deep south of America, like close to Sarge
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The demographic and geological area kinda surprise me
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And I was naive enough to believe that blacks were only targeted in the deep south of America
That's what I'd expect too...Unless the Land Rover's in the UK look like this and have shotguns in the backseat...

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only in the UK. (eat it all you "only in the US" bastards)
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only in the UK. (eat it all you "only in the US" bastards)
Yeah, without pickup trucks to drag people from we need to improvise over here.

On a serious note though, whaaaat the fuck went on here. Who the hell is unhinged enough to kill someone with an axe, particularly for such a ridiculous reason as that?

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The gun laws were never meant to deter murders in the sense that it is impossible to deter murder from a society. The gun laws were meant to control as far as possible gun ownership and use within the normal population. Yes we still have problems with guns, but I believe we have far less problems than other countries who dont have such stringent gun laws.
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Lizzie Borden took an axe and gave her mother 40 whacks!
When she saw what she had done, she gave her father 41.

I picture a gang of hooligans looking to jack someone up and the guy was hanging with a white chick. Just enough to set off a psychopath.
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The gun laws were never meant to deter murders in the sense that it is impossible to deter murder from a society. The gun laws were meant to control as far as possible gun ownership and use within the normal population. Yes we still have problems with guns, but I believe we have far less problems than other countries who dont have such stringent gun laws.
Sorry, couldn't resist. Every time someone mentions a murder or a gun around here the discussion always degenerates to a discussion of how Americams should give up their guns to prevent crime.

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Sorry, couldn't resist. Every time someone mentions a murder or a gun around here the discussion always degenerates to a discussion of how Americams should give up their guns to prevent crime.
LOL! Soooo True.

With bastards like this, a gun(or sword) comes in handy. :P
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white man killed by black thug

A sickening crime, but there's far less press coverage.....


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4739477.stm
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Reasons why there's less press coverage:
  • No indication of racist motivation.
  • Knife rather than axe.
A less spectacular attack all around. And for the record I'd heard of that second one on the news, but not the one the thread's about, funnily enough.

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A sickening crime, but there's far less press coverage.....


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4739477.stm
yeah the BNP seem to be trading on that one. youre not a member are you c2R? (just curious )
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http://www.kptv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3672606

When a dozen black guys kick the crap out of white guy, it's not a race crime, it's because they didn't like him having a bicycle.

Yeah.... it must have been because he was a bicyclist.
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so black people are capable of racism?? i must say im shocked. well youve opened my eyes there, roh. i never knew such things went on. incredible!

what you want to do is get the white guy from the axe murder, and the black guy from the knife murder, lock both the bastards in a room together and let the fuckers fight to the death, with the promise of freedom for the victor. then just as the winner's raising his arms in victory, you turn on the gas...

sorry, i dont know wot come over me. and me a pacifist too
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yeah the BNP seem to be trading on that one. youre not a member are you c2R? (just curious )
hehe, no - I come from mixed roots myself...

...what actually gets me the most though, is no matter how poor people in my family have been in the past; we didn't resort to crime to make a living, and have been brought up with more respect than the person who was throwing food and knifed the guy on the bus for no reason.

Furthermore, my grandparents that came to England assimilated the language and culture of this country, and worked hard to make a living here, not like a lot of the spongers that inhabit our towns today (of any race), that think the world owes them a living...
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...what actually gets me the most though, is no matter how poor people in my family have been in the past; we didn't resort to crime to make a living, and have been brought up with more respect than the person who was throwing food and knifed the guy on the bus for no reason.
Does this have a single, solitary thing to do with him being black? I've not seen his attack being described as racially-motivated, and the problem with violence amongst whites is at least as bad as with any race, at least up here. When I first read the story I assumed that the attacker was a white ned ("chav" is the word I think people down south use), because it's just the sort of person I'd expect to do that. It didn't seem to be a racist attack as such.

By contrast in the main story the boy was attacked because he was black. My understanding of the English language, modest though it is, leads me to believe that that's why it was described as a racist attack.

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There was a little white girl here, that was 10. She was getting teased by a bunch of hispanic kids. She clobbered one with a rock. HATE CRIME!.

A guy I know, got jumped by a half dozen hispanic guys. He's tough, kicked some ass and got away, but got hit in the head with a baseball bat. Got a broken arm and a bad concussion. NOT A HATE CRIME.
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Too bad racism is an international thing...

That's fucking disgusting, though...The demographic and geological area kinda surprise me, but that doesn't really matter, does it?
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There was a little white girl here, that was 10. She was getting teased by a bunch of hispanic kids. She clobbered one with a rock. HATE CRIME!.

A guy I know, got jumped by a half dozen hispanic guys. He's tough, kicked some ass and got away, but got hit in the head with a baseball bat. Got a broken arm and a bad concussion. NOT A HATE CRIME.
well i really couldn't comment on either of those (or how they were reported etc.) cos ive not read about them first-hand.

personally tho, im "colour blind" when it comes to crime (or anything else for that matter)
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http://www.kptv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3672606

When a dozen black guys kick the crap out of white guy, it's not a race crime, it's because they didn't like him having a bicycle.

Yeah.... it must have been because he was a bicyclist.
OR it could be ANYTHING. That story was vague as HELL. Also there was NO mention of a hate crime in the entire article.

He might have said something that pissed off 12 passengers at ONCE according to the article.
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He might have said something that pissed off 12 passengers at ONCE according to the article.
If you read the article and listen to the local news here, the cops said it was because he had a bicycle on the Max train.

All I'm saying is that if a dozen white guys beat up a black guy.... HATE CRIME ..... no questions asked.
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If you read the article and listen to the local news here, the cops said it was because he had a bicycle on the Max train.

All I'm saying is that if a dozen white guys beat up a black guy.... HATE CRIME ..... no questions asked.
im not sure what your point is. it probably was a hate crime. and the bicycle thing was just their rationale for attacking him. but i don't see how it's been misreported or played down in anyway. the guy only had minor injuries. maybe if he'd had an axe embedded in his skull, it would have been a little more newsworthy.
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im not sure what your point is.
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He just said it.

10 Black guys beat up a white guy for any reason:
Crime.

10 White guys beat up a black guy for any reason:
Hate crime.

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from what ive read nobody said it wasn't a hate crime - the bicycle thing was just THEIR rationale for the attack (as reported by the victim) - no reasonable person really believes that's why they did it. but it's a poor example. noone died, noone was seriously injured. thus it obviously doesnt deserve as much media attention as someone having his skull cleaved in twain. i think it's reasonable to call THAT a hate crime. lets face it, im pretty sure it wasn't because he knocked over his pint in the pub...

sure there's some racial bias in the media. but it's a far cry from say, apartheid south africa, or cowards concealing themselves under white hoods cos they know full well what theyre doing is utterly unacceptable. thankfully now those people at least are a dying breed (or at least i hope so).
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10 Black guys beat up a white guy for any reason:
Crime.

10 White guys beat up a black guy for any reason:
Hate crime.
I think you nailed my point exactly. In either instance, you would find me kicking some ass and taking the side of the victim.
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He just said it.

10 Black guys beat up a white guy for any reason:
Crime.

10 White guys beat up a black guy for any reason:
Hate crime.
No.

10 Black guys beat up a white guy for any reason:
Crime.

10 White guys beat up a black guy for any reason:
Crime.

10 Black guys beat up a white guy because he is white:
Hate crime.

10 White guys beat up a black guy because he is black:
Hate crime.

That's how I see it. Though for some reason, in the case of the white people beating up the black person, people's minds can (usually with help from the media) jump to something racial.

Really anytime you say a group of one race has any type of an altercation with another people assume it's over race.. which isn't always the case. Each situation is unique.. just remember that.
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10 Black guys beat up a white guy for any reason:
Crime.

10 White guys beat up a black guy for any reason:
Crime.

10 Black guys beat up a white guy because he is white:
Hate crime.

10 White guys beat up a black guy because he is black:
Hate crime.
You might think. You would hope. In reality, it is that way. That's the way the law is written. Not in our courts, though - as you mentioned, people jump to the white person attacking the black one - "it's a hate crime". The whole concept of a "hate crime" is stupid anyway - at it's core, it's a thought crime. Fucking people.

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No.

10 Black guys beat up a white guy for any reason:
Crime.

10 White guys beat up a black guy for any reason:
Crime.

10 Black guys beat up a white guy because he is white:
Hate crime.

10 White guys beat up a black guy because he is black:
Hate crime.

That's how I see it. Though for some reason, in the case of the white people beating up the black person, people's minds can (usually with help from the media) jump to something racial.

Really anytime you say a group of one race has any type of an altercation with another people assume it's over race.. which isn't always the case. Each situation is unique.. just remember that.
I agree though it is never thought of that way.

The reality is that Racial Crimes are not uncommon today. People have just learned to conceal their real agendas. This happens every day in every city in the United States.

You hear that the courts treat people of color differently in a lot of cases because a lot of the crimes that are reported or acted upon are racially motivated. There are a TON of arrests and altercations between police and minorities. But when it goes through court and the reality surfaces, its often learned that the officers involved were racially motivated to do the things they did simply because they thought that minorities are the cause of a lot of crimes or even something more similar.

In the media's case, racially motivated crimes gets them more views than naught. Whenever you view these type of things you can't help but to think that it was a hate crime. The things like what happened in that report in England still happens here but sometimes its not reported in the same fashion in all states. I've actually seen it first hand here in Louisiana.

BUT Before anyone creates a reason to hate "Xrace" because hate crimes are not reported well in the media, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER that the Media is just as OPINIONATED as we are. Something that might not have been racially motivated might have just been a regular crime. But The Media would put a spin on it to get a better rating.
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