Old 7th July 2002, 01:49   #1
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synesthesia

has anyone else heard of this phenomena?
when different senses are joined together in some ways
classic examples are ppl who see certain numbers as certain colours, or see certain colours w/ certain sounds, or associate touch and another sense, things like that
i just found out that my girlfriend has this, and she was explaining it to me today
i've been interested in it for a long time, mainly because when i did research on it long ago, i found that i showed some symptoms, both in the sense mixing, and in other respects

apparently, my girlfriend sees certain numbers as certian colours: 1 is red, 7 is light green, 3 is dark green, etc (those are the ones i can remember)
when she thinks of a certain person, she will associate certain colours w/ them in her mind's eye (apparently, i'm green)

we were talking, and it seems that i show some symptoms (get deja vu a lot, excellent memory, bad at math, left handed, and i often associate tastes w/ shapes [i've been known to describe the taste of milk as round])

i just find the entire phenomena so interesting, now i have a name for it, and want to do more research

anyone else have any experience w/ this?
anyone else have this?
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Old 7th July 2002, 01:56   #2
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I tend to get symptoms too...for example:

yellow
pink
brown
blue

I tend to read the color of the lettering rather than the word itself in cases like that.
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Old 7th July 2002, 02:05   #3
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uhm, that's a proven thing for most ppl, atmo
most ppl will say the colour of hte letters, rather than read the word

i'm tlaking about seeing a number written down, in plain black ink (it doesn't matter what colour it is written in), but the person will perceive it as a certain colour
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if they hear music, they will see certain images

it's supposed to be fairly steady, the same colour will always be w/ the same sound, or number, or word, or whatever
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Old 7th July 2002, 02:20   #4
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I used to have that at a younger age. For example, I would look at an object and think of a number. I had to go see some person for it but I can't remember crap they told me about it. I'm mostly over that now.

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I can "see" sounds as shapes and colors somewhat.
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Old 7th July 2002, 03:29   #6
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I can see sounds as visualizations!

OMG! I was just about to post a thread about this as I was digging through my pile of old Discover magazines. I read about this almost 2 years ago, I think before i joined the forums. It really is interesting though. YOur girlfriend is cool!

Here's the link. I new I read about it before these forums, December 1999 issue. http://www.discover.com/dec_99/featsyn.html

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Old 7th July 2002, 03:45   #7
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yes, 31337, she is, and not just b/c of this, but i digress
she was teling me how she used to complain to her mother that those little coloured plastic letters all kids have were wrong, and her mom thought she was crazy

and she drew me a picture of waht music looks like to her, and it looks like the default visualization on winamp
the spectrograph thingy
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Old 7th July 2002, 11:50   #8
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i don't have any of the symptoms, i am NORMAL, ya freaks :P. Sounds pretty cool though.
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Old 7th July 2002, 11:58   #9
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But, binary_hero do you remember when we used to try and ascribe colours to the sound of words, ignoring the meaning? or tastes to colours? I don't think I have it noticably but maybe I have it slightly or something cause the idea of associating sences always fascinated long before I read this thread and found it was a recognised phenomenon

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Old 7th July 2002, 13:13   #10
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i read a long article on this in smithsonian magazine a couple years ago . . . a little piece of it you can read here. apparently, some of the colors associated with numbers are things like black speckled with copper . ..
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Old 7th July 2002, 20:11   #11
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Synesthesia is a great song by Porcupine Tree.
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Old 8th July 2002, 02:36   #12
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Vassily Kandinsky, the pioneer abstract master, was someone who experienced this phenomena- which is why he named his paintings like musical scores- improvisations, compositions etc.

http://metalab.unc.edu/wm/paint/auth...sky.comp-4.jpg
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Old 8th July 2002, 02:46   #13
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I don’t really know if it’s the same thing, but I associate colours with months….dunno why,

For instance

January = Yellow
February = Black
March = Red
April = Yellow
May = White
June = Red
July = Yellow
August = Brown
September = Dark Green
October = Black
November = Dark Brown
December = Purple

Been the same all the way since I was a kiddie..
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Is it because those are the colors of the contruction paper you got to use around the year in kindergarten?
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Old 8th July 2002, 04:53   #15
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Looks like you can give it to your PS2, also. Has anyone played this? It looks so interesting....

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/166/166546p1.html
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Old 8th July 2002, 05:19   #17
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Quote:
Originally posted by Xerxes
Vassily Kandinsky, the pioneer abstract master, was someone who experienced this phenomena- which is why he named his paintings like musical scores- improvisations, compositions etc.

http://metalab.unc.edu/wm/paint/auth...sky.comp-4.jpg
Thanks... I was wondering about that.

Synesthesia is also a great musical group.
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Old 8th July 2002, 05:31   #18
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BTW, to all who care, the names of Kandinsky paintings were also somewhat revealing to how they worked on.

i.e- a composition was something planned, wheras an "improvisation" he simply just sat down and made up completely on the whim of the moment but maintaining an order to it...

Thus, his paintings have a sort of creative synergy with jazz music.
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There's a discipline called Neuro-Linguistic Programming that applies linguistics and cybernetic models to human psychology. Above and beyond the phenomenon of synesthesia they found that most everyone has a preferred sense, usually visual, auditory, or kinesthetic (touch). You can usually determine what type a person falls into by listening to their verbal cues. For example, a visually oriented person would say something like “I see what you’re saying,” as a way of saying they understand something. An auditory person may say “I hear you man.” Kinesthetic, “I can grasp that.”

These are pretty obvious examples, but it’s interesting if you spend a day listening to your friends, co-workers, classmates, etc. and try to determine which they are.

It’s also useful to determine which is your preferred sense, as you can use different methods for memory and stuff like that. For example a visual person trying to remember the name of someone they just met would benefit much more from picturing the persons face next to their name than an auditory one would.
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Old 8th July 2002, 14:16   #20
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For example, a visually oriented person would say something like “I see what you’re saying,” as a way of saying they understand something. An auditory person may say “I hear you man.” Kinesthetic, “I can grasp that.”
What about freaks like me who just say, "I understand"?

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