Old 14th May 2002, 11:14   #1
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Sound quality 128kbps or 160kbps

Which one is better 128kbps or 160kbps? I know that 160 kbps will sound better but which one will give you more advantages. I'm just curious. I tried listening to them before and I think that they are not very much different while 160kbps files are bigger.
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Old 14th May 2002, 11:32   #2
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this thread is rediculas.....
What do you think is better?

192kbps VBR is probably the best for mp3

130kbps is good with vorbis(prefered format)

128-160kbps mp3's are shit for burning to CD...they don't sound right on a good audio system
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Old 14th May 2002, 11:32   #3
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I encode all my cd's at 192...only because im picky and h/d space isnt a concern.

128 sounds fine most of the time.
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I mean 128 and 160kbps CBR in mp3 not for burning to a CD.
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Old 14th May 2002, 11:40   #5
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but if you want to burn them in the future.... they won't sound good


if you don't have a problem with disk space....download 192kbps or higher
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Old 14th May 2002, 11:54   #6
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If youre only listening to them on a pc, not thinking about burning them to cd then 128 should be ok...unless youre using a good quality sound card and speakers and want the best possible sound quality.........

If you are, then buy the cd
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Old 14th May 2002, 12:15   #7
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Opinionation..

right, looky here, this is my opinion, and it's final.

below 160 is unaccepteable quality unless the track is intended for streaming only, and even then, it should be higher than this and then downrated on the fly.

160 is the absolute minimum you can encode to without easily audible loss of sound quality.

However, if you have more than an sb16 and the altec lansing's that came with your dell, you might want to shell out for 192 or 256, personally, i encode at 256, lesth it be something so simple that it can go well at 192.

And, of course, i wouldn't even pick up a stick to touch vbr, all i encode is cbr, and that's the way it should be.

Well, those were my final opinions. thank ye.
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Old 14th May 2002, 12:20   #8
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I prefer 666kbps ...
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Old 14th May 2002, 12:21   #9
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I used to re-encode everything to 128. Now 192 is more than good enough. I rarely encode now, but if i do i use vbr with the so called 'r3mix' LAME setting. (Just noticed eac uses '--alt-preset standard', not that there is any difference)

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Old 14th May 2002, 12:24   #10
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Re: Opinionation..

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personally, i encode at 256, lesth it be something so simple that it can go well at 192.

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Old 14th May 2002, 15:17   #11
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I think the best title for this thread is What's the best bit rate for mp3's.
I personally use Ching's mp3 output for winamp (using lame encoder), but some options there are pretty unclear.
can you guys share with us your best encoding settings.
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Old 14th May 2002, 16:08   #12
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I use LAME with the r3mix setting. It sounds at least as good as any other setting I've heard.

If you ared going with CBR, then 256 is all you need. Anything more is an absolute waste. It's been proven in blind tests.

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Old 14th May 2002, 17:31   #13
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LAME with the --alt-preset standard or extreme preset. File size isn't an issue for me

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Old 14th May 2002, 17:55   #14
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LAME --alt-preset 160

There's no need to tell me when I'm right;
I operate on that principle exclusively and with absolute certainty
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Old 14th May 2002, 18:35   #15
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LAME with the --alt-preset standard or extreme preset. File size isn't an issue for me
Edit: What the fuck? It had a message from me when I hit submit . . .

"Then you should use Monkey's Audio Codec"

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Old 14th May 2002, 18:43   #16
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I can notice a difference between 128 and 129.

Does anyone know the ideal quality for burning mp3's to CD?
I quite like that 300 (roughly) one.

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Old 14th May 2002, 18:52   #17
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Well, I don't think there's really an "ideal" quality per se - it depends on what your ears hear as transparent.

As for the whole 128/160kbps thing: I personally find 160kbps to be my MINIMUM quality for downloading music files. I generally settle for 192kbps when downloading, but my personal preference is LAME VBR (r3mix 0wn0rz j00).

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I can notice a difference between 128 and 129.
Wha???

I rarely notice any difference between 192 and 256...how could it be possible to notice the difference of 1kbps????
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Old 14th May 2002, 19:40   #19
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Definitely a good compromise between quality and filesize is an ABR of 192 with a lower limit of 96, and upper of 320.
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i have a friend that's musician that totally hates the idea of mp3 or should i say lossy audio compression, he can hear diffrence between 128 kbps and 130 kbps, he has a good ear so he can hear the differance directly, one thing annoying with him is that he always points what instruments they play, which notes and so on...

the thing is that he wants a compression that has/almost has the quality of 44Khz wav but wont use up so much space, is there any compression that can do that

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Can someone tell me how to rip from a audio CD to ogg vorbis format?

I am just a normal person sitting on the bench and reading newspaper and having a cup of coffee. Why can't people see that?
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Old 14th May 2002, 20:57   #22
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I encode all my cd's at 192...only because im picky and h/d space isnt a concern.

128 sounds fine most of the time.
Ya, 128 sounds normal. If you are really crazy about having high-end quality then got with at least 160. If you wanna use Ogg vorbis then I'm not sure which are good bitrates.

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i cant tell diff after 128 with mp3
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Old 14th May 2002, 22:53   #24
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All of my files are at 128. I burn them to CDs all of the time and they're not shity at all.
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i have a friend that's musician that totally hates the idea of mp3 or should i say lossy audio compression, he can hear diffrence between 128 kbps and 130 kbps, he has a good ear so he can hear the differance directly, one thing annoying with him is that he always points what instruments they play, which notes and so on...
I'd say it's impossible for anyone to hear a difference of 2kb/s. Ten perhaps, but not 2.

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the thing is that he wants a compression that has/almost has the quality of 44Khz wav but wont use up so much space, is there any compression that can do that
Monkey's Audio - compresses audio loslessly to around half it's size.
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I'm fairly certain that there is no 129 kbps or 130 kbps in the MP3 format . . .

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thats because their isn't.... the only way to achive that is the average bitrate for a VBR file
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thats because their isn't.... the only way to achive that is the average bitrate for a VBR file
And of course, that number's pretty much meaningless in VBR . . .

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