Old 10th January 2003, 14:28   #1
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help: My .m3u files won't work

I have created .m3u files that look like this:

http://www.myserver.com/audio/tune.mp3

and have links to the .m3u files from my site. When I click on a link, however, winamp3 opens but the file will not play.

However: if I download the .m3u file to my desktop, and open it winamp3 streams the file from my server with no problems.

also, if I set windows media player to be my default player, when I click on the link, windows media player plays the mp3 fine as well...

Why won't winamp3 stream my file when I click on the .m3u file link on my website?

Many thanks!
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Old 11th January 2003, 11:04   #2
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Old 11th January 2003, 17:25   #3
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Please expand on "won't play"

What does & doesn't happen exactly?

Have you tried emptying the internet cache?
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Old 11th January 2003, 17:31   #4
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Easiest if I show you :-)

Put this: www.indigomusic.co.uk/audio/drippy.m3u

into internet explorer address bar. Winamp opens but nothing more. But if you enter www.indigomusic.co.uk/audio/drippy.m3u directly into winamp it calls drippy.mp3 and it starts playing correctly.

By emptying the internet cache, you mean deleting temporary internet files (on the tools/options menu on Explorer)? I have done this - makes no difference.

Thanks for your help!
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Old 11th January 2003, 19:07   #5
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Ok, yes, I've reproduced the situation.
That m3u doesn't work directly by streaming in either WA2 or WA3

#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:82,freestyle.mp3
http://www.indigomusic.co.uk/audio/drippy.mp3

There's a couple of discrepancies here.
The mp3 is actually 3mins 8 secs (3:08) or 188 seconds, not 82 seconds
Although the next section refers to the id3 tags, the filename is drippy.mp3, not freestyle.mp3. If there aren't any id3 tags then this section should be blank or just state the filename.


#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:188,drippy.mp3
http://www.indigomusic.co.uk/audio/drippy.mp3


If the id3 tags state the artist and title to be, eg.
Indigo Music - Drippy
then the m3u should be:

#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:188,Indigo Music - Drippy
http://www.indigomusic.co.uk/audio/drippy.mp3



WMP doesn't read any of the extended info, it only reads the url.
#EXTM3U and #EXTINF lines aren't essential.
The m3u will work if all it contains is the url.

Basically, it looks like invalid #EXTINF entries are confusing Winamp.



btw, that track is pretty neat. I quite like it.
Is it one of your own?
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Old 11th January 2003, 23:08   #6
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A similar problem

Hello folks, I would really appreciate some help. I have been working on this for hours (which I can't afford) and I in despair. I am trying to stream music from nugs.net. I used to be able to do it and now it has stopped working. I get a listing in the playlist like: write asx.xpl[1] and nothing plays. If I paste in the URL it still doesn't work. I tried checking all the file associations and they seem to be OK. The worst part is that when I past the URL into Windows media player or open in WMP-it works. I don't want to have to give up my Winamp and sell more of my soul to Micro$oft. Any help would be welcome. BMA
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Old 12th January 2003, 03:09   #7
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xpl is an evil RealPlayer extension
It is not supported by any other player except for Real
Basically, it associates all streaming playlist files (pls, m3u) with xpl

There's a thread all about this in TSGH, including manual fixes and reg-fixes,
but alas it was written for WA2 and I haven't revised it yet for WA3.

How to Unassociate RP8 from Streaming Playlists & Make Winamp the Default Instead

A fix was eventually imported into WA2 somewhere in one of the 2.7x releases, so I suppose this same fix needs importing into WA3.

Before that, we were getting many WA2 cases similar to this:
RealPlayer has converted PLS and M3U Playlists to .XPL format - forum search

Until WA3 Dev Team address this issue, you'll need to apply the fix from TSGH, treating/replacing all instances of WA2 with their WA3 equivalents.

[EDIT]
Aah, luckily for you, the nugs.net radio stream is in .m3u format.
This is much easier to fix than if it were a .pls stream.
Unassociate RealPlayer from m3u, pls, xpl c/o RP prefs (see TSGH for details)
Open Windows Media Player, go to:
...Options -> Formats
and associate it with MP3 Format Sound (mp3, m3u)
Close WMP, reboot.
Then open Winamp and associate it with m3u (plus mp3 and pls if you so desire) via:
Prefs (Ctrl+P) -> Filetypes.

Good luck


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DJ EGG - You are fantastic. This was the problem:
iv) Performance tab -> Playback from web links -> settings:
Uncheck: "Enable Instant Playback"
That little checkmark was the whole problem. Now I can stream the shows with no problem. The nugs.net radio is till a bit of a problem. I can get the stream going, but it plays for 5 seconds at a time and rebuffers-over and over again. Can you direct me to that fix? Many many thanks!!!!
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You know, I think I don't have to bother you with the Shoutcast question. It seems that most other stations are just fine. The nugs station seesm to be the problem, not the Winamp config. I'll try to take up the problem w/nugs.net first. Again, thanks for such prompt and efficient support!!!
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Old 12th January 2003, 11:59   #10
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Ah, I've confused things for you - stupid of me. Those #ext lines are NOT the problem. I have added those (copying the .m3u file file from a site that I know works) (to this file only!) in an attempt to get the .m3u file to work. Originally, the .m3u contained just the URL:

If you check this:

http://www.indigomusic.co.uk/audio/abs.m3u

which contains *only* the line (honestly ;-)):

http://www.indigomusic.co.uk/audio/abs.mp3

in the same way you'll see there is the same problem.

Many thanks for your help!

Oh, and yes, this is my work - glad you like it!

Quote:
Originally posted by DJEgg
Ok, yes, I've reproduced the situation.
That m3u doesn't work directly by streaming in either WA2 or WA3

#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:82,freestyle.mp3
http://www.indigomusic.co.uk/audio/drippy.mp3

There's a couple of discrepancies here.
The mp3 is actually 3mins 8 secs (3:08) or 188 seconds, not 82 seconds
Although the next section refers to the id3 tags, the filename is drippy.mp3, not freestyle.mp3. If there aren't any id3 tags then this section should be blank or just state the filename.


#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:188,drippy.mp3
http://www.indigomusic.co.uk/audio/drippy.mp3


If the id3 tags state the artist and title to be, eg.
Indigo Music - Drippy
then the m3u should be:

#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:188,Indigo Music - Drippy
http://www.indigomusic.co.uk/audio/drippy.mp3



WMP doesn't read any of the extended info, it only reads the url.
#EXTM3U and #EXTINF lines aren't essential.
The m3u will work if all it contains is the url.

Basically, it looks like invalid #EXTINF entries are confusing Winamp.



btw, that track is pretty neat. I quite like it.
Is it one of your own?
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Old 13th January 2003, 10:06   #11
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Can anyone help with this?
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Old 14th January 2003, 11:20   #12
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Please - can anyone help me with this?

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can i just get this straight, the .m3u that originally did not work did not have any #ext lines in it, it was just the url of the song?

if that is the case, are you sure the song is there?

does it say "bufferring" at all?
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Old 14th January 2003, 11:31   #14
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Hi - many thanks for responding binary hero!

The file is definitely there. Winamp opens but nothing else happens. *But this is the important bit*: this ONLY happens if you put the URL into Explorer (I don't know about other browsers)... if you put the URL directly into Winamp (ctrl+L from Winamp) the file plays perfectly!

Please try it with this URL:

www.indigomusic.co.uk/audio/abs.m3u

if you type that into the address bar of explorer, Winamp opens but the track doesn't play but if you enter the identical address directly into Winamp the track plays fine.

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can i just get this straight, the .m3u that originally did not work did not have any #ext lines in it, it was just the url of the song?

if that is the case, are you sure the song is there?

does it say "bufferring" at all?
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Originally posted by Doctor Zeus
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Zeus I'm having the same problem with you...
maybe I can expand your ideas a bit to let people around know what's really happening...

Take www.mp3.com as an example

when I clicked on those hifi play or lofi play buttons in IE6...
Everything looked cool, a window of downloading the .m3u file shows up, winamp3 opens.

but there's nothing played by winamp,
while the playlist window in winamp shows nothing, or sometimes the whatever.m3u instead of the song names.

The above won't happen if I copy and paste the url into the open location window of winamp or if I save the m3u file to my harddisk and run it.

So this is the situation... I hope somebody can help us, thanks a lot!
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Old 20th January 2003, 19:06   #18
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Hi,

This isn't the same as my problem. MP3.com works fine for me - it is ONLY my site that doesn't work for me (and other people who have tested it too). I think it maybe a problem with my server. You should probably start another thread for your problem.
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You should probably start another thread for your problem
I agree.

Doctor Zeus...
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Please try it with this URL:

www.indigomusic.co.uk/audio/abs.m3u

if you type that into the address bar of explorer, Winamp opens but the track doesn't play but if you enter the identical address directly into Winamp the track plays fine.
Ok. I did just that. Plays PERFECTLY for me in Winamp3. Both by merely clicking on the link OR by copy-n-pasting into the address bar of a new browser window. So, it works, and there is no problem at all.

My system: WinXP Pro build 2600
Browser: Internet Explorer 6.02

I will try it in a few other browsers and get back to you.

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OK. Just tried Opera 7 and Netscape 7 browsers. Everything is OK there too.

btw... you DO of course realize that ALL these browsers have to be TOLD to associate/configure/play (NOT open) M3U and PLS files with studio.exe (located in the Winamp3 main folder).

See this thread concerning Netscape 7 and SHOUTcast playlist files...
Winamp 3.0 & Netscape 7.1

The specific screenshot in the above post I want you to pay attention to is THIS ONE

So if you (or anyone else that you know) is having problems, always keep what I've said in mind, and there will be no problems.
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Hi Nunzio,

Many thanks for checking this out for me. It is now working for me too. The problem was with the server configuration at my hosting company - they must have fixed the problem. Thanks again for taking the time to try and look into this! :-)

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OK. Just tried Opera 7 and Netscape 7 browsers. Everything is OK there too.

btw... you DO of course realize that ALL these browsers have to be TOLD to associate/configure/play (NOT open) M3U and PLS files with studio.exe (located in the Winamp3 main folder).

See this thread concerning Netscape 7 and SHOUTcast playlist files...
Winamp 3.0 & Netscape 7.1

The specific screenshot in the above post I want you to pay attention to is THIS ONE

So if you (or anyone else that you know) is having problems, always keep what I've said in mind, and there will be no problems.
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No problem

btw... I was just at your site. Very nice. I like the site concept as well as the music

But can I suggest something? You have "notices" indicating to download Flash player if the site visitor does not have it, and that's a GOOD thing, but why not also have the same for the Winamp player? I only say this because all your references point to M3U Winamp playlist files (instead of the actual MP3s) on this Music Samples page...

http://www.indigomusic.co.uk/samples.htm

Those references are coded this way, specifically referencing a Winamp Playlist file...
code:
freestyle.m3u"
..mouseover stuff here..
target="_parent">
Now the above M3U playlist file simply points to this MP3 file...

http://www.indigomusic.co.uk/audio/freestyle.mp3

I can understand that you didn't link directly to the MP3 because you want Winamp to play the file. Hence, the playlist in the reference.

But don't ya think that you should at least "suggest" that a site visitor download/install Winamp?

Just my opinion really, is all.

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Hi Nunzio,

Thanks for the suggestions - glad you like the site!

I don't have links to Winamp (which is my prefered player) because .m3u files will work in most (any?) MP3 player. They certainly work in Windows Media Player.

The reason I have used .m3u files is not at all because I want to specify that the files should open in Winamp but rather that I want the file to stream. I do not mind what player people use on my site... as long as it works ;-) If you point directly to the MP3 file, most players seem to want to download the entire file (into a temp folder presumably) rather than buffer playing (streaming)

Hope that clears it up for you.
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Aha! Gotcha! I see now.
But.. since Winamp IS the BEST player around..... ya know.
Push it! Suggest it! LOL!
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Wow, you guys have been busy in here since my last visit, heyhey.
I was gonna suggest it was a server problem, probably a MIME config issue in the serverside .htaccess file (or equivalent).

All the following MIME needed to be associated with .m3u files:
audio/mpegurl
audio/x-mpegurl
audio/m3u

Thankfully, the server fixed it, yay!
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