Old 25th July 2006, 20:22   #1
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Lame versions , vbr setings, some files and ripping..

Hi all.
I have some questions that I would like to clarify regarding Lame ripping and files needed...
In the past I used audiograbber and there are 4 things that were very important.
I want to identify those settings for winamp with lame so that I can continue with creating MP3 files with the same or better updated method that is accepted as a standard by the LAME community.
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After the setup I instantly copied LAME Version 3.90.3 (lame_enc.dll)to the winamp\plugin directory) and after that I discovered that I haven't updated my brain for a long time ...
Accepted and recomended codec those days is LAME 3.97beta2 and this one is included with winamp. -->
http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index....coder_Settings
I didn't know if bundled files for 3.97beta2 from the same page are ok to work with winamp so I reinstalled the
winamp.

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Question 1
- Which files are needed for using Lame 3.97beta2 with winamp 5.24 and where do we put them?
(I know that they are included with 5.24 but I want to know the name of the files and their locations with paths)
In the Lame 3.97beta2 package there are 3 files ---> lame.exe ; lame_enc.dll and lame.css.
In Winamp there are 2 files by default... lame_enc.dll and enc_lame.dll ...
The second one "enc_lame.dll" was not in the lame package and I didn't wanted to experiment.

Question 2
- How do I know that lame 3.97beta2 is used for ripping? There are no details about the codec version used.
( Just MP3 encoder ver 1.3 ?! )

Question 3
- I can see here - > http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index....coder_Settings
that accepted settings for --alt preset extreme ( that's the standard I used in the past) we should
chose in the winamp drop-down box vbr 0 and min/max 220-260....
There is no 220 and there is no 260 in the drop down box...
I know that I can use near values but I want a correct and accepted standard by the community...
Min/Max - 220-260
Please advise ...

Question 4 - In audiograbber I used something called "dynamic sync width" method for grabbing (I have no idea
what does that mean ) and I used aspi driver ..
Where are those settings if there are any and what is sonec extraction?
Thanks a lot for your answers,
KraFT
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Old 25th July 2006, 20:39   #2
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enc_lame.dll is the plugin and lame_enc.dll (v3.97) is the LAME Encoder.
Both those files come with Winamp, so there's no need to download anything separately.
enc_lame.dll is exclusive to Winamp, you can't get it externally anywhere else.
Winamp only uses enc_lame/lame_enc to rip CDs to MP3's,
so that's how you know it's being used (ie. Winamp doesn't use anything else).

To rip to --alt-preset extreme, select that preset from the Quality drop-down menu
and leave everything else 'as is'

Re: Q4
There's no such equivalent setting in Winamp, heh.
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Old 25th July 2006, 21:06   #3
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Originally posted by DJ Egg
enc_lame.dll is the plugin and lame_enc.dll (v3.97) is the LAME Encoder.
Both those files come with Winamp, so there's no need to download anything separately.
enc_lame.dll is exclusive to Winamp, you can't get it externally anywhere else.
Winamp only uses enc_lame/lame_enc to rip CDs to MP3's,
so that's how you know it's being used (ie. Winamp doesn't use anything else).

To rip to --alt-preset extreme, select that preset from the Quality drop-down menu
and leave everything else 'as is'

Re: Q4
There's no such equivalent setting in Winamp, heh.
Thanks a lot for your quick reply!!!!!!!

1. lame_enc.dll (v3.97b2) from that package copied to winamp\plugin\ folder gives me mp3`s created with lame verson 3.97b2? (MP3 encoder ver 1.3)

2. if chosen --alt-preset extreme other settings are ignored and i get automaticly --alt-preset extreme with v0 and min/max 240/260 as listed here? http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index....coder_Settings

3. Are there any logs for detected errors ?
Sorry about bothering here but i have 300 cds to rip and i want to have perfect setings

Thanks Again!!!!!!

KraFT
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Old 25th July 2006, 21:35   #4
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220-260 is the average size you'll get with most 'normal music' (eg. neither mono nor extremely loud and noisy).
Min and max are 128 (or even 32) and 320 and should be kept the way they are.

Winamp's ripper has no error detection.
If you want security rather than speed use EAC in secure mode.
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1. lame_enc.dll (v3.97b2) from that package copied to winamp\plugin\ folder gives me mp3`s created with lame verson 3.97b2? (MP3 encoder ver 1.3)
As I already said, lame_enc.dll v3.97 already comes with Winamp, so you don't need to copy it from some other package. And yes, it is used when you select MP3 Encoder in Winamp's CD Ripping options (because that's the only thing what winamp uses for ripping to mp3).
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DJ Egg, what happens with the ripping proccess when
another quality setting is used?

I noticed that ripping is almost
as long as reading the CD when in
Very High quality.

Does the headroom improve?

Is sin wave correction occuring?

Thank you for your help.

MG
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If you want technical details, afaik most of the extra time is spent on improved Huffmann coding.

What's important is that improvements are minimal at best.
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