Old 6th May 2002, 22:30   #1
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v2.80 freezes on win9x - round ][

previously dealt here, here and here.

be sure to read common bugz thread first, it contains solutions to most common problems people report here.

First, update to v2.80a - uploaded 14th May
(and YES, it IS still labelled v2.80, but it IS v2.80a, and this IS the one now available on winamp.com/download; ask this again and get censored/deleted/banned)
Second, install this patch (updated 05/15/2002; this is a temporary solution, these fixes will be included with the next Winamp version - v2.81 or whatever).

if you still get the problem after the 2 steps above, do following things:
- change output plugin to DirectSound (in preferences / plugins / output), this should fix the problem (but if it does, post here anyway to let us know that waveOut is still broken so we can fix it)
- check what file types are affected (eg. if this affects only MP3s or other types (WAV, OGG, etc) as well).
- post here and report full system specs, including sound card type and exact OS version.
- Also include a list of any 3rd-party plugins installed (gen/output/input/dsp).


If the problem persists with 2.80a with wa2update, even after switching to DS Output, you can downgrade to an earlier version here or here.
Wait for 2.81 release before upgrading.

Only post here if you have any useful info, eg. see Muzikmann's post below.
Do NOT post here otherwise, eg. see Sheercomedy's useless post below.
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Old 8th May 2002, 21:50   #2
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freeze up

I don't know a whole lot of tech stuff, but just wanted to let you know that I had the reboot freeze-up problem running 2.80a on WinME with ESS Maestro (I think?) device. It would, however, play streaming audio. The patch fixed the problem and it's all good now.
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Thank You SO MUCH!

I had no idea what was wrong with my WinAmp, I actually thought my Windows was breaking because, frankly, that's the case 99.99% of the time. Once again THANK YOU!
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Tried Everything downgraded to v.2.73

Nothing worked to fix v.2.80 (patches, changing plug-ins, uninstall-reinstall). So I downgraded to v.2.73, which was the oldest version I still had an installation file for. Works like a charm. Even cut and pasted the plug-ins folder that I saved from 2.8 to 2.73 and it still works. I'm running Windows ME (version 4.90.3000 ?) and onboard AC'97 sound. Here's what seems to happen with v.2.80. Start windows, everything runs as it should. Open winamp, press play, winamp locks up. ctrl+alt+del to close. Next explorer crashes. ctrl+alt+del to close that. Open winamp again, winamp works again after crashing itself and explorer. Hope that helps you all fix this problem. I'll hang on to 2.73 until 2.81 comes out.

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So you're actually using the latest plugins with 2.73, and there's no problems?

It is probably the AC97 causing the problem - it's rubbish. you might solve the problem by updating it's drivers, or getting a proper soundcard

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=57617
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Old 15th May 2002, 18:27   #6
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if it's not the plugins, i wouldn't blame AC97. this looks like something new. are you sure that old winamp.exe with new plugins works fine ?
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Yeah, so, I tried everything, getting more and more frustrated by the amount of times I had to hit Alt Cnrl Del.... and nothing worked. So ive downgraded to 2.79, and im sticking with that. Im kinda disappointed that Winamp released 2.8 considering it is so full of bugs, but since the earlier versions are so excellent I will not pass too harsh a judgement. Looking forward to 2.81, and hoping all these annoying bugs will be sorted out by then.
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sheercomedy: this forum is intended for people willing to give us useful info, you dont seem to belong to those. is my first post that difficult to understand ?
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Old 17th June 2002, 21:39   #9
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Thanks a lot Peter, i had some trouble with winamp 2.80
on windows ME. Winamp was freezing all the time, but thanks
to you it seems fixed.

Keep up the good work!!!
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Old 20th July 2002, 15:23   #11
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Hi!

I had exactly the same problems like muzikmann. Winamp started but when I wanted to play a file, it didn't work. I installed the patch and now it works fine. But when I want to quit Winamp, there appears an error message saying that Winamp caused an error in kernel32.dll, when it plays and also when it doesn't play.

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Old 21st July 2002, 11:24   #12
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OK, after reinstalling Winamp the bug described above was removed (Error messages while quitting). But with the deinstallation, Winamp has also removed all my wonderful wsz-Skins (The ones which have their own directory are still there). Can't you fix this in coming versions?
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WINAMP caused an invalid page fault in
module KERNEL32.DLL at 0197:bff7b094.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=0197 EIP=bff7b094 EFLGS=00000246
EBX=03150000 SS=019f ESP=006e8a5c EBP=00000000
ECX=e2af5da0 DS=019f ESI=030f4530 FS=14d7
EDX=bffbb490 ES=019f EDI=00460698 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
a1 20 bd fb bf 50 e8 ed 90 fe ff ff 76 04 e8 25
Stack dump:
00460698 030f107e 030f4530 0315135c 004283f5 00000000 00000000 00000000 0041eba6 00000002 00000ecc 0041d9b8 00000000 00000001 00419124 00000ecc

Happens whenever I exit Winamp with the latest out_wave.dll.
Doesn't matter whether out_wave is selected, it still crashes.
Don't feel like uninstalling/reinstalling Winamp.

System:
Windows ME
Dell Inspiron 8000
1 GHz Mobile Pentium III
plenty of RAM
ESS Maestro PCI
Winamp 2.80a with all the latest versions of your plug-ins.

Did I forget anything? I'm kinda out of practice.
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Old 22nd July 2002, 22:18   #14
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i assume that the crash goes away when you remove/shutoff out_wave, right ?
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What do you mean by "shutoff"? If I select a different output plug-in, it still crashes. If I replace it with the previous version (from 4/27/02), it stops crashing on exit, but then I'm stuck using out_ds.dll again, because the old version of out_wave.dll freezes Winamp for long periods of time (sorry, was too busy/lazy to report that when I first noticed it after 2.80 came out).
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i meant remove/rename the dll (so it doesn't get loaded at all). if v2.80 dll was fine, it must be affected by new out_wave somehow. it seems to be a really rare problem, and i quite don't understand what could cause it yet.
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Old 22nd July 2002, 22:50   #17
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this any better ?
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Old 22nd July 2002, 22:55   #18
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Yep, that solved it. What had been the problem?
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Old 22nd July 2002, 23:05   #19
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talking in dev language, i removed the critical section protecting all my code (which may cause potential rare stability problems, especially on multiprocessor systems). seems that DeleteCriticalSection() call on exit was causing the crash. either winme is that retarded (time to get win2k ?), or you should try removing some other plugins; i'm not sure if i can keep this fix in official builds (old out_wave had different multithreading logic, no critical sections there).
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how's this ?
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Old 22nd July 2002, 23:30   #21
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That one also works fine.

By the way, I just figured out that the presence of John Adcock's Output Splitter plug-in and Matthew Lloyd's Gapless Output Plugin were making the 7/18/02 version of out_wave.dll crash Winamp. If I removed both of them, it worked fine. If I put either one back, it would crash again. Any idea what's special about those two?
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these two have their own output dll loaders. dodgy stuff. this out_wave has its own permanent gapless mode, you should never need third-party gapless plugins anyway (and this is not the first time i hear about the output splitter screwing with my output plugins).
i've moved the troublemaking init/deinit code to the dll entrypoint function, the second test build shouldn't have any problems, i'll put it in the next official setup.
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ok, it's in todays wa2update. (also edited the gapless setting explaination, should be more readable now, old one was messy)
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Old 24th July 2002, 04:50   #24
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Hello all...

After upgrading from 2.76 (2.78(?), not sure) to 2.80a, I've been experiencing noise, distortion, skipping, hiss, whatever you want to call it. Anyway, never had this problem before. WA2UPDATE didn't help, so I switched to DS and that seems to have done the trick (almost - 98-99% cured).

System Specs:
ECS K7S5A (no onboard sound), using onboard NIC (SiS 900)
Aureal Vortex2
AMD Athlon XP 1900+
Windows 2000 Pro
latest mobo/NIC drivers

BTW, WAVs are the only file format I use with Winamp.

Regards,
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My computer is Pentium 100Mhz. My hd size is 16 gb. I have 24mb Ram. My sound card is Sound Galaxy Washington sound card. I am running winamp 2.81 it was running ok before but lately it freeze on me I have use the Norton Utilites like Disk Docotr and Win Doctor and also Antivirus, and defragment and it did not help when I push Control alt del it says not responding. Can anyone help me? Oh also I am running Windows 98.
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sorry, wrong forum. go to a tech support forum instead of reviving old obsolete thread for no reason. locking.
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