Old 12th June 2003, 17:01   #1
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2.92 OUT!!

well, I don't know. but there is already a little preview on www.winampfr.com . have a look.

EDIT: now it's out. read this thread!

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Old 12th June 2003, 17:07   #2
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I'm waiting...
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Old 12th June 2003, 17:25   #3
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Seems to be really close to the release date. I'd guess it will be within this week, Sunday at the latest .

@ DJ Egg (dunno if you read this or what ), do you know anything about the changelog in 2.92? I wonder .


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Old 12th June 2003, 17:47   #4
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yup, the whole changelog would be fine. to offer us 2.92 moood.
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Old 12th June 2003, 17:48   #5
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new features in 2.92?

:: gets all giddy ::
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Old 12th June 2003, 18:01   #6
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cd ripping is one.

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Old 12th June 2003, 18:51   #7
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I'd like to see queueing system (like in wa3)
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Old 12th June 2003, 18:57   #8
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Download Winamp 2.92 now!

You can download the full version of Winamp 2.92 at Winamp Heaven...

Consider this as a gift from Justin Frankel and his friend "Mouse"
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Old 12th June 2003, 19:31   #10
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hmm. no wa3 skin support. is there an unofficial way to test the plugin??



Changelog:
Winamp 2.92:
* startup with hung winamp process in background fixed
* CD ripping support in media library (with OGG Vorbis encoding support)
* Preliminary AAC playback support added to in_mp3.dll
* media library bugfixes and improvements (listener count in internet *, etc)
* ryan fixed shuffle again
* minibrowser ctrl+l fix.
* nsv: subtitle bugfixes, more buffering options, shoutcast metadata support,
better invalid bitstream handling, better display options, new ASYN aux
chunk handling.
* nsv: support for new extended TOC with frame-accurate seeking
* video: overlay fixes on 556 and other unusual modes, drag&drop URL
to video window now works. Subtitle fixes.
* cdda: bugfixes
* AVS evallib | and & operator fixes
* in_vorbis fixes

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Old 12th June 2003, 19:52   #11
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Nullsoft Vorbis Decoder 1.33 is part of WA 2.92 from Winampheaven.net.

I thought they would integrate 1.34?

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=132462
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Old 12th June 2003, 20:08   #12
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I thought so too, but then some guy opened a new thread about v1.34 saying that the problem still exists, christophe responded, asking for an example and there it stopped and I guess they decided to go with v1.33.

Good thing this bug doesn't affect me, sheesh. shrugs.

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Old 12th June 2003, 20:13   #13
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hmm. no wa3 skin support. is there an unofficial way to test the plugin??



No, WA3 skin support is still very very alphaish, not for general consumption yet, altho it does keep getting better and better, but it still has a long way to go before it works as well as native WA3 support.

I now have 9 out of the 10 winamp3 skins I created working, instead of 1 out 10 that I had last week
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Old 12th June 2003, 22:08   #14
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Be careful with non-offical versions.
(Hell, I think the in_vorbis fix is what is holding up the offical release)
These were built before 1.34

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Old 12th June 2003, 22:28   #15
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hmm. that means, that the version on winamp heaven isn't final yet???.

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Old 12th June 2003, 22:45   #16
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When you see it on http:\\classic.winamp.com then you can be sure it's final
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Old 12th June 2003, 23:08   #17
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I got those files from Justin Frankel, why? I dont know...

A close friend of him asked me to put those files on the site for you to have... enjoy them, I know I will!

But Im sure the official release will be out soon...
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Old 12th June 2003, 23:12   #18
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Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery.

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Old 13th June 2003, 02:38   #19
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ok just found a bug in the cd ripper, if you did not lable the track then there would be no output file.

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Old 13th June 2003, 10:49   #20
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What is the newest version of DirectSound Output?
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Old 13th June 2003, 11:03   #21
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The latest verion is v2.2.7, but Winamp ships with v2.2.6. I think someone said that v2.2.7 was "broken", causing problems with certain hardware configurations ...

And damn, just overwrote my BACKUP copy of the v2.2.7 as I installed Winamp v2.92


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Old 13th June 2003, 11:06   #22
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Also, I don't really like the way even Winamp v2.xx comes with a CD ripper now ... Frankly, it is not that great, has no exact secure ripping options or anything like that. IMHO, it's obsolete, and bloats Winamp ...

I really think Nullsoft should keep Winamp v2.xx small as it used to be, now with the in_mp3.dll having AAC support, gaining over ~150kbyte in size, is just one example. I don't like Winamp v2.92, bah

*switches back to v2.91*


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Old 13th June 2003, 11:22   #23
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have to agree with budgie...the cd ripper is nice but i rather use cdex.
is there anyway not to install the cd ripper?

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Old 13th June 2003, 11:36   #24
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What you are you kidding me?! Ever heard of custome install? It is right there when you're installing Winamp... Sheesh.

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Old 13th June 2003, 12:41   #26
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what do i un check? there is no cd ripper option. well at least not in standard.

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Old 13th June 2003, 14:29   #27
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cd ripper is installed with the library. I don't know if it has an own dll. (maybe read_file.dll ??)

but it would be clever to make cd ripping optional in the installer.

EDIT: typo

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Old 13th June 2003, 14:41   #28
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i think the cd ripper component is bunddled with the media library. if thats so what is someone want the media library without the cd ripper?

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Old 13th June 2003, 15:09   #29
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well, I don't care about the cd ripper bundled with library, even though I will not use it. there is the shoutcasting feature bundled with it the same way.

but I would favour a separate option in the installer just to avoid discussions like this one.

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Old 13th June 2003, 15:35   #30
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hi
i just tried 2.92 and i've a question : is the subtitile display in the video fixed ? and how does it work if so ? or is it planned for the final release ?
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Old 13th June 2003, 16:08   #31
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read_file.dll is for archive support (zip, mdz, itz, xmz, miz, hmz, etc) with Peter's input plugins (mod, mid, wav, ogg). It's been in the winamp setup since 2.7x-ish.

The CD Ripper is built-in to in_cdda.dll and manifests itself in the library.
So much for the "beauty of modular" statements. Oops.
Maybe if you uncheck "support for cd playback & extraction" during setup, then it'll keep the 2.91 plugin.
Of course, this is no good for new first-time users.

If you aren't gonna use it . . . ever . . . then you can delete
enc_vorbis.dll
I think this is an option in the installer?
(under: Audio File Support -> Ogg Vorbis Encoding)
This will save you a whopping 105kb disk space
I've also got enc_aac.dll and enc_lame.dll, but I don't think these are included any more (aac was in beta builds, lame mp3 is a separate d/l).
However, this won't get rid of the WAV option
or the CD Ripping tab in Prefs.

Sorry dudes.

Sure, many people are still gonna use EAC/Cdex,
but the option to rip is there if you want
...although ripping was already possible with CDReader plugin (pre 2.9x) or with DAE enabled in in_cdda.dll config (2.9x) in conjunction with the Output plugin/format of your choice.

Many users asked for it, so the option is now there.

If it was made optional in the installer, then two different gen_ml.dll & in_cdda.dll files will need to be included.... I think.

Is it really that important anyway?
Enough to make you go back to 2.91 (ie. without the 2.92 bugfixes)?


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I've no idea.
You tell us whether it's fixed or not.

From 2.92 whatsnew.txt

* video: overlay fixes on 556 and other unusual modes, drag&drop URL
to video window now works. Subtitle fixes.
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Old 13th June 2003, 16:55   #32
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i tried with film.avi and film.srt in the same directory and it doesn't work

****video: overlay fixes on 556 and other unusual modes, drag&drop URL
to video window now works. Subtitle fixes.****
i've seen this
that's why i was asking you. But i'll have to wait until sunday to know for sure

thank you anyway
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Old 13th June 2003, 17:01   #33
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nobody told it would come sunday, sorry dude.

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Old 13th June 2003, 20:35   #34
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i just hope the "Cooperative request outside range"-bug has been fixed. It made me stop using the library.
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Old 13th June 2003, 21:02   #35
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Well, I did a custom install of Winamp v2.92, but ripped the installation a bit and replaced the gen_ml.dll with the one from 2.91. Drawback is that it won't have the bugfixes from v2.92 and other features (like listener count of radio streams).

Question: Why did they build the ripper in the media library?
And why didn't they make the cd ripper a seperate plugin like most other components of Winamp are? Maybe they didn't believe that some people do not want to use that ripper?

That's the first step into going as bloated as MMJB *shudders*. I mean, why do we need a cd ripper with Winamp? Frankly, it doesn't have many functions, no secure ripping, no offset correction, just to mention a few. Don't we all prefer CDex or EAC anyway?

The Media Library rules, but why, oh why did they have to include the humble cd ripper component inside the dll? Argh.

Custom hybrid-2.91-2.92 install owns, bleh.


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Old 13th June 2003, 21:32   #36
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is it SO big problem?
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Old 13th June 2003, 21:33   #37
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That's the first step into going as bloated as MMJB *shudders*. I mean, why do we need a cd ripper with Winamp? Frankly, it doesn't have many functions, no secure ripping, no offset correction, just to mention a few. Don't we all prefer CDex or EAC anyway?
I couldn't agree more, and I could say the same thing for video playback, but at least you can choose not to install that. Mind you, one positive thing about built-in ripping is that it might increase the availabilty of .ogg files.

Other than that, it just seems like bloatware. I'd rather have several applications that do things properly, rather than one app that does things half-heartedly.
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Old 13th June 2003, 21:53   #38
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What is the size difference in gen_ml from 2.92 and 2.91? It seem like the bulk is the encoders, which there is an option to not install.

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21K is damn impressive for a basic CD Ripper. I don't like bloat as much as the next guy and am going to continue to use EAC. But I am not going to install an older buggier version to save 21K. I am not that desperate for HDD space.
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I now have 9 out of the 10 winamp3 skins I created working, instead of 1 out 10 that I had last week [/B]
So how do you get WA 3 skins to work in WA 2.9???
I just downloaded one and tried all sorts of different things and I never got it to work.
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So how do you get WA 3 skins to work in WA 2.9???
I just downloaded one and tried all sorts of different things and I never got it to work.
He's an internal tester of the plugin that'll allow freeform skins to work. It isn't in 2.92.

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