Old 28th October 2004, 16:40   #1
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Winamp taking up an insane amount of resources?

Right now winamp is taking up 111mb of physical memory! Hooray!
This is a fresh install with a lot of songs (BUT) as far as I know, its not reading all their Tags.

Is this a bug? Is there something to tweak? Help?
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Old 28th October 2004, 16:48   #2
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Is this the latest version? A memory leak was corrected in a recent version.

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Old 28th October 2004, 18:53   #3
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very newest winamp version. downloaded just today.

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Old 28th October 2004, 19:40   #4
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oh. I don't know if this could be important or not but heres what im running it on:
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Old 28th October 2004, 20:00   #5
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Try the following DirectSound config tweaks...
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....26#post1212926
Close Winamp & Windows and reboot the computer after making the DS changes.

Have you updated the sound drivers? If you have a soundcard go the manufacturer's website for updates. If you have an on board sound chip, go to the website of your computer provider or the manufacturer of the mother board.

Although you did say it was a "fresh install", do you have any third party plug-ins? By your screenshot it looks like your using a third party skin. What happens is you switch to another skin?

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Old 28th October 2004, 21:55   #6
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Still at 100mb

This is what I did:[list=1][*]Uninstalled Winamp and all traces of it[*]Downloaded newest version from www.winamp.com[*]Installed [*]Did all the tweaks that were mentioned here and Here[*]Closed winamp[*]Restarted Computer[*]Opened winamp ( )[*]Added media and waited for it to complete[*]Loaded media in playlist[*]Pressed play[*]checked taskmanager (picture in attachment)[/list=1]


I have the newest (working) sounddrivers. I'm positive on this one.

So, here are detailed PC specs:

Operating System
Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600)

System Model
American Megatrends Inc. 1.0

Main Circuit Board
Board: K7S8X. 3.0
BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. P1.40 10/07/2003

Processor
1.90 gigahertz AMD Athlon XP
128 kilobyte primary memory cache
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache

Memory Modules
512 Megabytes Installed Memory

Display (Video Drivers)
RADEON 9000 SERIES

(Onboard) Sound
C-Media AC97 Audio Device

DirectX
DX819696
DX9
KB839643-DIRECTX9


.NETFramework 1.1



HijackThis Log:

Logfile of HijackThis v1.98.2
Scan saved at SUP 7:54:40 , on 28.10.2004
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

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E:\WINNT\System32\svchost.exe
F:\Programme\ahead\InCD\InCDsrv.exe
E:\Program Files\TGTSoft\StyleXP\StyleXPService.exe
E:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\Stardock\SDMCP.exe
E:\WINNT\Explorer.EXE
E:\WINNT\system32\spoolsv.exe
E:\Program Files\Creative\Prodikeys\Prodload.exe
E:\WINNT\system32\RunDll32.exe
E:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe
E:\Program Files\AVPersonal\AVGNT.EXE
C:\PROGRA~2\WHATPU~1\WHATPU~1.EXE
E:\WINNT\system32\ctfmon.exe
E:\Program Files\TGTSoft\StyleXP\StyleXP.exe
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E:\Program Files\AVPersonal\AVWUPSRV.EXE
C:\phpdev\Apache\Apache.exe
E:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7DEBUG\MDM.EXE
E:\WINNT\System32\svchost.exe
E:\WINNT\System32\MsPMSPSv.exe
C:\phpdev\Apache\Apache.exe
E:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
E:\WINNT\System32\svchost.exe
F:\Programme\Trillian\trillian.exe
E:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
F:\Programme\Winamp\winamp.exe
E:\Documents and Settings\Rieg1\Desktop\HijackThis19802.exe

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://google.com/
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Window Title = Riegie Explorer ^_^
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - E:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 6.0\Reader\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - G:\PROGRA~2\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
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O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ProdikeysAutorun] "E:\Program Files\Creative\Prodikeys\Prodload.exe"
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O6 - HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Restrictions present
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O8 - Extra context menu item: Download web site by Free Download Manager - file://G:\Program Files\Free Download Manager\dlpage.htm
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O8 - Extra context menu item: View This Page in Firefox - file://E:\Documents and Settings\Rieg1\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\default.k33\extensions\ {5D558C43-550F-4b12-84AB-0D8ABDA9F975}\firefoxviewpage.html
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O9 - Extra button: Run WinHTTrack - {36ECAF82-3300-8F84-092E-AFF36D6C7040} - G:\Program Files\WinHTTrack\WinHTTrackIEBar.dll
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O9 - Extra button: AIM - {AC9E2541-2814-11d5-BC6D-00B0D0A1DE45} - E:\Program Files\AIM\aim.exe
O9 - Extra button: Yahoo! Messenger - {E5D12C4E-7B4F-11D3-B5C9-0050045C3C96} - E:\PROGRA~2\Yahoo!\MESSEN~1\YPager.exe
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O12 - Plugin for .bcf: E:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\Plugins\NPBelv32.dll
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O16 - DPF: {8E0D4DE5-3180-4024-A327-4DFAD1796A8D} (MessengerStatsClient Class) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary...t.cab30149.cab
O16 - DPF: {B8BE5E93-A60C-4D26-A2DC-220313175592} (ZoneIntro Class) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary...o.cab30149.cab
O16 - DPF: {C02226EB-A5D7-4B1F-BD7E-635E46C2288D} (Toontown Installer ActiveX Control) - http://download.toontown.com/sv1.0.14.22/ttinst.cab
O16 - DPF: {E504EE6E-47C6-11D5-B8AB-00D0B78F3D48} (Yahoo! Webcam Viewer Wrapper) - http://chat.yahoo.com/cab/yvwrctl.cab
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Old 28th October 2004, 23:00   #7
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Taking a quick look at the HjT log I did notice you have a couple desktop/shell enhancers. Do they have an exclude list in the options? If so have you tried putting Winamp on the exclude list?

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Old 29th October 2004, 00:15   #8
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None of the shell enhancers should matter. (They're just download managers, games and XP themer (stylexp)). And there is no exclude option ...i think.

But thanks for you all your help so far!
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Old 29th October 2004, 18:54   #10
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Ya know, I've read all responses in this thread. I've looked through the log. I'm unable to determine why all that physical memory is being used by Winamp on your system. I can assure you that it doesn't do that with my installation and doesn't do so with 99.99% of other Winamp users, else these forums would be flooded with posts concerning this.

Are you absolutely certain that you have no 3rd-party plugins of any kind installed? You never "directly" answered that one question put to you by JonnyMac. Just please confirm that after you reinstalled, you added nothing else.

BUT... if something had existed in a previous installation and if you did not perform a clean uninstall/reinstall, there could still be remnants of some culprit plugin or some other anomaly sitting there, even after reinstalling.

So I'd like you to perform an entire clean install (Full Uninstall -> Reinstall procedure) of Winamp 5.05 Full. Follow the procedure in that thread to the letter. But before doing so I'd like you to check a few things first...

In your very first post in this thread you indicated that you have a lot of songs but that as far as you knew, Winamp wasn't reading all the ID3 tags at once. Let's make certain of that...

CTRL+P for preferences > General Preferences > Titles > Metadata Reading
Make certain that the first option is NOT bulleted > "Read metadata when files are loaded into Winamp (can be slow if lots of files are added at once)"

Also, let's minimize the Watch Folders options too...

CTRL+P for preferences > General Preferences > Media Library > Watch Folders tab
Check nothing except for "Automatically remove missing files". If anything else is checked, UNcheck it.

Now at this point close Winamp for the changes to take effect, wait a bit for the memory dump, and then restart Winamp. Is the memory still up there at that ridiculous 100+ mb figure?

Okay, try those 2 things first. Then if that fails, perform the clean install (Full Uninstall -> Reinstall procedure) I mentioned above.

Don't email or PM me concerning Winamp. Instead, either start a NEW TOPIC or post a REPLY in the appropriate thread in these forums. This will also benefit others who may have a similar question or problem. But before posting, please first Search the forums and read all FAQs and all Sticky threads.

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Old 29th October 2004, 19:08   #11
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Does the amount of memory increase? Leave for a few hours. (to rule out a leak. A proper leak will keep increasing)

Does you playlist size have any difference to it? (I notice taht it looks a reasoanble size as it it doesn't appear to have resolved it all with the + at the end.

Is the memory size always the same for the same parameters. Playlist size, skin, etc

The shell managers *shouldn't* matter but then again 99% of things *shouldn't* matter. Can you use with teh default Microsoft stuff. Messing with the OS causes more headaches for us.

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Old 29th October 2004, 19:17   #12
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From the HjT report…
O8 - Extra context menu item: Download with NetPumper - G:\Program Files\NetPumper\AddUrl.htm

Did you have (or do you have) NetPumper on your system? Download.com reports as adware.

I don’t know if that is causing the issue and I am doubtful that it is. However, IMHO it is a red flag.

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Old 29th October 2004, 19:29   #13
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Run adaware to clean your system of such evils.

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Old 29th October 2004, 19:56   #14
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@ imatreeandurnot

I have noticed your thread from GD.

Problems with Winamp – Problems with IE

If you have not done so already, run you virus scanner with the latest definitions/signatures and/or use a online scanner (thanks to Nunzio390 for the links)...
HouseCall from Trend Micro

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To rid you system of any ad/spyware use Ad-aware as Rovastar suggested and for good measure also use Spybot Search&Destroy.
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Old 29th October 2004, 20:28   #15
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Quote:
Originally posted by Nunzio390

So I'd like you to perform an entire clean install (Full Uninstall -> Reinstall procedure) of Winamp 5.05 Full. Follow the procedure in that thread to the letter.
thats how I did it the last time. Checked if the folder is still there after deinstalling (via Add or Remove Programs) and it wasn't .

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Originally posted by Nunzio390

CTRL+P for preferences > General Preferences > Titles > Metadata Reading
Make certain that the first option is NOT bulleted > "Read metadata when files are loaded into Winamp (can be slow if lots of files are added at once)"

CTRL+P for preferences > General Preferences > Media Library > Watch Folders tab
Check nothing except for "Automatically remove missing files". If anything else is checked, UNcheck it.

Now at this point close Winamp for the changes to take effect, wait a bit for the memory dump, and then restart Winamp. Is the memory still up there at that ridiculous 100+ mb figure?
Done and sadly still at 100+mb.

Quote:
Originally posted by JonnyMac

If you have not done so already, run you virus scanner with the latest definitions/signatures and/or use a online scanner Spybot Search&Destroy.
I'm actively using a virus scanner (AntiVir) and recently checked for spyware with Spybot S&D-

I really really appreciate all the troubles you guys are going through. Thanks alot

I guess I just wont load all my music at once. It'll be ok

(unimportant side note: Netpumper is not spyware/adware when you register the pro version. (its still a very ugly program, but it sure beats using that silly anti-leech plugin))

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Old 29th October 2004, 20:58   #16
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I would have helped you further but you failed to answer my questions.:/

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Old 30th October 2004, 17:32   #17
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omgwtf, I didn't even see your post. Sorry about that!

Quote:
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Does the amount of memory increase? Leave for a few hours. (to rule out a leak. A proper leak will keep increasing)
It doesn't increase (or decrease ) drasticly. Only by 10mb or so

Quote:
Originally posted by Rovastar
Does you playlist size have any difference to it?
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Oh god yes. If I load 12 songs, its around 30mb. if I load all my music (which isn't few) it auto goes to the 111mb+

Tried with different skins, makes no difference.

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The shell managers *shouldn't* matter but then again 99% of things *shouldn't* matter. Can you use with teh default Microsoft stuff. Messing with the OS causes more headaches for us.
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I just tried disabling some things, what I could. I disabled StyleXP and went back to the default windows theme. Still no difference in mb-size.
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Okay. I'm fresh out of ideas. I'll leave the headache of troubleshooting your problem up to others (eg: Rovastar and JonnyMac).

But in leaving I must say one thing...

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So it is not increasing over time.
That is good it implies it is not a memory leak.
It appears to be linked to teh amount of files in your playlist.

What about no files in the playlist?

What about just the 5 second demo that comes with Winamp?

What about Internet Radio streams?

Is it only when playing the music or when the player is stopped?

How do other media players respond memory wish with similiar playlist sizes?

What sort of files are these? I don't think you have said.

Are they MP3's with VBR? I'll guess mp3's Do they have strange ID3 tags. (right click view file details). LArge Files sizes?

Find one file note down what you think is an excessive amount of memory used. I am thinking that certain files my have corrupt ID3 info of something.

Always use one you think as excessive and try different things. Mayeb something is abnormal with that file.

It appears to be releated directly to files maybe it is the total length of the playlist, the total file size of tracks.

Does removing the ID3 tags make a difference? Untick the boxes delete the info.

If you really want to test make 100+ copies of the demo.mp3 that comes with winamp (this is one constant that we all know is ok in both our music collections) and enqueue the all up. What is the memory size then.

Ok sorry for all the questions but the more info available the more we can point you in teh right direction.

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@ Nunzio390 -

@ Rovastar - So much to reply. So much to test. Here I go!:

-What about no files in the playlist?
28mb

-What about just the 5 second demo that comes with Winamp?
While playing (on repeat for 5min) 38mb
When not playing 36mb

-What about Internet Radio streams?
A random stream from shoutcast.com (playing for 10min) = 37mb

-Is it only when playing the music or when the player is stopped?
When playing 114mb
When not playing 113mb

-How do other media players respond memory wish with similiar playlist sizes?
In foobar2000: 44mb (while playing) 37mb (not playing)
In WMP: 13mb (wtf?? I must be doing something wrong)

-What sort of files are these?
Sorry about that. The majority are .mp3. However some .ogg's are amung those. NO other files. (that means, no .midi, no .wav, no .acc)

-Are they MP3's with VBR?
Most of them are. They come from different sources. (That doesn't mean I got them from illegal p2p!). I would say most of them are VBR. My personal CD rips are always in -aps. But emusic I think uses VBR (96 - 192kbit). The lowest bitrate being 56kbit (ouch) and the highest being 240kbit (i think)

-Find one file note down what you think is an excessive amount of memory used.
How would I find which mp3 is excessive/corrupt?

-ID3 tag stuff
Removing all my id3 tags would be a hell of alot of work. Most of them I tagged my self with Tag&Rename. And most are with embed-album-art. I'm still in the process of re-tagging my music. (Its going to take a loooooong time)

-It appears to be releated directly to files maybe it is the total length of the playlist, the total file size of tracks.
I too am guessing that winamp might have problems processing gigantic playlists.



-If you really want to test make 100+ copies of the demo.mp3 that comes with winamp (this is one constant that we all know is ok in both our music collections) and enqueue the all up. What is the memory size then.

4500 x demo.mp3 = 40mb
100 x demo.mp3 = 36mb



edit: my playlist statistic:
29030 tracks in playlist, average track length: 3:26
Estimated playlist length: 1668 hours 18 minutes 55 seconds
(38 tracks of unknown length)
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Old 31st October 2004, 13:37   #21
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Another longshot thought.

Do you have "Rescan folders at startup" checked as a Media Library setting? When I run the Modern skin in Windowshade mode, memory usage is about 8MB. With "Rescan folders at startup" on, and I load a playlist, the memory usage jumps, depending on the size of the playist. For 1700 tracks it jumps to about 18MB - but only temporarily - I presume until the folder rescan is complete.

With 29030 tracks in the playlist, if "Rescan folders at startup" is on, I wonder what the memory usage would jump to, and how long the scan would take!
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Old 31st October 2004, 14:39   #22
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@ imatreeandurnot

I am also out of ideas. However if you don’t mind, there is another question to throw back at you. If I missed it somewhere I apologize. Although you have confirmed that you preformed a clean install, you were also asked to confirm that you did not installing any third party Winamp plug-ins or skins there after. So, do you have any third party plug-ins/skins?
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Old 31st October 2004, 15:23   #23
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It was and always has been unchecked. But thanks anyways

@ JonnyMac
No 3rd party skins/plugins at the moment. Deleted it all near the beginning of the thread
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Old 31st October 2004, 16:06   #24
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OK, I am still at a lost here. However, thanks for the reply.

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Old 31st October 2004, 16:50   #25
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What happens when you minimize Winamp to the tray?
Does mem usage drop down to a minimum?
And if so, does it increase back to the ridiculous 100mb+ amount when you maximize it again?

My playlist isn't quite as large as yours, only ~12,000 entries, but mem usage is about 20mb when winamp is active/maximized, about 12mb when maximized but not the active app (ie. in background), and ~4mb when minimized - and this is with music playing and using the default modern skin.

If it isn't the large playlist size or a couple of potentially corrupt files to blame (test the mp3's for corruption with mp3utility and remove from the playlist any it says are corrupt), I'm wondering if it could be some external app to blame. From your HJT log, potential candidates are:
-Stardock Desktop Personalizer - if there's an option to exclude winamp.exe then make sure it is (though I think this was already mentioned above);
-VS7DEBUG\MDM.EXE (Machine Debug Mgr) - could be constantly scanning winamp for any errors?
-AVPersonal - could be scanning all files in the playlist in realtime?

And what's this WhatPulse thing all about?
Sounds iffy to me. A KeyLogger? :/
http://whatpulse.bounceme.net/faqs.php


Though like everyone else here, I'm not rightly sure... :/
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Did you perform an on-line virus scan? Some adware/viruses can mess up AV software and online scans will generally not be affected by that type of thing.

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Yeah. Good idea k_rock.

But JonnyMac already mentioned that in this post above. However, imatreeandurnot responded to that post by saying that he used his local antivirus program (AntiVir), so perhaps he never used any of the online scanners.

@ imatreeandurnot...

Try those 4 online scanners that JonnyMac linked to above. Try them all. Same as can happen with your local AntiVir proggie, one scanner may not pick up a virus wheras another will, regardless if each and every one claims to have the latest virus signatures.

Also, look into what DJ Egg suggested above. All of that's worth looking into.
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Old 31st October 2004, 23:54   #28
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What happens when you minimize Winamp to the tray?
Does mem usage drop down to a minimum?
And if so, does it increase back to the ridiculous 100mb+ amount when you maximize it again?
Wow. I didn't even think about that. That helps with firefox, but I didnt even think to apply that to winamp.

Minimized = 3mb (YES!!!!) (when back up afterwards 25mb (YES!!!!))

Minimized to system tray = 3mb (when back up 25mb)


I'm going to try the other suggestions for the heck of it. One sec


(25mb!!! YAY!!)
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I'm actually having the oposite problem... my winamp uses about 80mb of ram when the media library is loaded (about 40 000 items).

But when I minimize winamp this memory gets flushed, and winamp uses 3-4mb...

I would like to keep the whole media libary in memory ALL the time, to eliminate search delays that occurs when winamp has to load the library into memory from disk again.

I have lots of ram so that's not an issue.
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It should load the Database at startup and it should stay in memory. Deciding if it gets pages out is a system thing, really. The freeing memory when minimizing is probably more of the interface. Modern Skins do eat a lot.

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as imatreeandurnot's problem +memory leak

Hi all. Been reading intently and playing along in the background. Have the same problem as 'tree, as well as a gradual memory leak. Additionally i've got a supremly slow WA closedown time when closing from highest memory usage (sometimes up to 110,000k), often in the region of 4 minutes @ full CPU use.
One thing i've noticed is that we both have C-Media onboard cards, known webwide for their dodginess and infrequently upgraded ('tree, it might be worth going to the RealTek site for an upgrade, it helped me with a few soundcard probs)

Steps i've taken to resolve: full online & local virusscan, frequent SpybotS&D checking, fresh winXPpro full reinstall (other issue), multiple fresh winamp reinstalls, newest winamp version, old version skin i made myself that's just supersimple bitmaps & never caused any probs before, did the directsound fixes, not checking any folders, or reading metatags on load, don't use it for video (relevant?), can't delete ID3Tag data (after all the time i've put in).

I've got ~23,000 tracks, almost all MP3, mp3utility found desyncs in 310 files. Thing is, i've had most of these tracks a long time and have only noticed this problem since the full Xp & WA reinstalls. WA drops from hi-mem to about 1500K when minimised & not playing, which instantly rises by frequent albeit small increments. Maximising boosts the mem use to around 60000k, which'll trickle to 110,000k+ in a few hours background notplaying.

I'm in no doubt that the base-level memory use is related to the size of the media library & tracklist, but i can deal with 60000k. If anyone can think of how i can plug this leak i'd be very grateful (i've got fresh soundcard drivers & winamp).
Cheers All.
Dez

p.s. 'tree and anyone else with similar problems (esp. for the slow close-down thing) if you open task manager and sort by name, select winamp in the list then goto winamp and minimise it (flushing the memory) then go back to the still-open task manager and close winamp it'll close instantly.
p.p.s. i've got hijack this & Everest if anyone wants logs
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What version of Winamp?

Known 5.09 bugs, fixed in 5.091
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Updated to 5.091 a few hours ago. currently idling around 108000k although it doesn't seem to be rising any more (he says tentatatively, unsure of how to spell it). Does this level of memory consumption seem like an obvious fault or a feasible function of my having a large library?
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having the same problem...

when streaming audio up or down live from a dj setup... after an hour or two,, all memory is being used by winamp... and You get breaks in the audio almost immidiatly after starting it.. and yes latest version has been downloaded...
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Haha, 100 megs of RAM? Lightweights.

When I add my Music folder to Winamp, I have to do it in chunks because if I do it all at once it crashes.

I have just over 175,000 music files in probably 20 file formats. If I load them all into the Media Library, Winamp takes 325 megs of RAM (when the ML is loaded into memory). Makes it useless to me.

It sucks, because I love the Winamp ML, its awesome. Its just with that much RAM (and the time it takes when it needs to access it), its pointless.

No insult to Winamp, I'm sure 175,000 files have a heck of a lot of meta data. Wheter its 325 megs worth, I dont know, but Im sure not surprised. Maybe some day computers will have enough RAM and a fast enough harddrive that it wont matter. Except by then Ill have more music!
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175,000? Awesome. Dude, you rule.
Tell me, how did you manage to amass this huge number?
Giant-scale downloading, massive cd collection ripping, stealing all your mates cd collections & ripping them, mates' mp3 collection copying, or all of the above?

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175,000? Awesome. Dude, you rule.
Tell me, how did you manage to amass this huge number?
Giant-scale downloading, massive cd collection ripping, stealing all your mates cd collections & ripping them, mates' mp3 collection copying, or all of the above?
All of the above, you got them all

I love music, I listen to it almost all day, so I've always had a lot of music. I got into digital music along time ago, when we would trade MOD files and MIDIs. Then MP2s came out, and thats when I found some insanely old Winamp alpha. Then MP3s happened, and the rest is history.

When The first Winamp 2.X versions with the ML came out, I had a lot of emails back and forward to Brennan (or was it Justin?) because I could crash the ML a hundred different ways and had to keep mailing them my ML database files so they could fix it.
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