Old 8th December 2006, 04:35   #1
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Can't install U3 Winamp

I'm trying to install Winamp on my U3 Sandisk Cruzer Titanium, but every time I try it the install fails. It downloads from U3 Central and seems to be installing it, but then at the end it always bring up an error message ('Installation of Winamp Failed').

I searched these forums and tried a newer version that was posted for people here, but it gives me the same result. Has anyone seen this before or does anyone know a workaround for it? I'd love to have Winamp with me all the time.

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Old 12th December 2006, 17:55   #2
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Same thing happened with my Sandisk Cruzer Micro 4.0gb
Does anyone have any help?

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Old 13th December 2006, 16:20   #3
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Ditto over here...

I am using a Sandisk 1.0gb U3 Cruser Micro (strange... it all seems not to work on SANDISK drives.). Host machine runs on WIN XP with all patches applied.

Elsewhere on these forums people suggested that the problem could arrive when using Internet Explorer, but I use Firefox 2.0 and it doesn't work either.

I contacted Sandisk support, where I got no answer that was truly helpful. At the end they sent me to the U3-forums, where I got the answer that probably the download-file would be corrupt.

So I hope the Winamp-forum can come up with a solution.

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Old 13th December 2006, 20:30   #4
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It's not a corrupt download file because I've downloaded both the one at U3 Central and the one posted here by a tech support guy who was following these forums. Both react the same way. How about it Winamp support folks? This can no longer be considered an isolated incident. Is there anyone here who can help us try to figure out what's going on?
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Old 13th December 2006, 23:31   #5
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the u3 files are basically a zip file renamed to .u3.(i think)

so if you rename the .u3 file to .zip

extract that, then try to run winamp.exe

if it works then theirs nothing wrong with the u3 file.
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Old 14th December 2006, 02:25   #6
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There is nothing wrong with the U3 file from the standpoint of being corrupted. You can rename the .u3p file to a .zip and vice versa. (The one posted in these forums was a .zip that we had to rename to .u3p before using.) Once the .zip is extracted, the .exe file is fine. But that still doesn't help because the program must be installed in the U3 system in order to be accessible from the U3 start menu. I could probably copy the entire .zip contents and get it to run, but who wants to drill four layers deep in explorer to click on the actual executable every time they want to run a program? Clearly there is something wrong with the installation routine or we wouldn't have so many people having the same problem. It would be nice, since they've decided to make a U3 version, if they could get it working... or at least tell us they're working on it... or that they don't plan to ever work on it... or something. Thanks for the reply, though.
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Old 14th December 2006, 15:18   #7
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I talked to Sandisk support and after a lot of small talk they suggested for me to uninstall all other programs. I didn't have the time to do that at the time. At that point Sandisk said, it's not their problem. I have been in touch with U3 and they were no help saying that all they support is Launchpad. I uninstalled all programs from my drive and tried installing from both the U3 web site and my own hard drive (with the beta install file from the Winamp web site). Still no luck. I don't understand why that it appears that only Sandisk products seem to be affected. Has anyone with a Sandisk drive been able to install?
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Old 15th December 2006, 02:02   #8
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Thanks for checking that out, drummer. The Sandisk connection could be a factor or it could just be that it's a popular brand and coincidence since there are only three of us so far. If others using U3 Winamp systems are reading this, would you please reply with the brand and whether or not it works? If we could get a dozen or so replies, then we could at least feel more comfortable that its a Sandisk thing... or rule it out.
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Old 27th December 2006, 00:28   #9
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this topic is a little old, but i figured i'd reply anyways. i have a 1gb sandisk cruzer micro and winamp works peferectly fine for me
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Old 27th December 2006, 04:17   #10
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Thanks G319. That rules out Sandisk drives as being unable to run this. I still don't understand why the Winamp folks bothered to write a U3 version, but won't help us get it going. There is clearly a problem with their installer, and it would probably take one of their programmers a day to fix, but apparently that's not going to happen. I'm sure eventually someone will modify another MP3 player for U3. In the meantime, I'll just keep using Windows Media Player. It's not as slick as Winamp, but at least it runs.
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Old 5th January 2007, 22:41   #11
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Won't install on my Memorex device

I just bought a 2 gb Memorex Mini travel drive and I have the same problem. It's downloaded right and files are extracted to my U3 system\Apps folder but a message in the installation process state taht the installation failed. When I tried to install it the first time there was absolutly nothing except 3 U3 Apps that where already included in my Mini travel drive. So the problem does not occur only on Sandisk devices
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Old 6th January 2007, 06:06   #12
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Thanks Elmaestro. I've been wondering if it really was limited to Sandisk, but didn't see why it should be. I've given up on any help from Winamp, though, and have installed Spider player. It's quite good and they have one great feature that Winamp lacks... it actually installs and runs.
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Old 14th January 2007, 23:05   #13
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U3 Winamp Not installing

I'm glad I'm not the only one with this problem. I have a SanDisk Micro 2.0gb and Winamp won't install. I tried the one from U3's site and the beta from these forums. Did anyone ever find a solution? Thanks!
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Old 15th January 2007, 03:14   #14
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Since the Winamp support people won't even give us the courtesy of acknowledging that this thread exists, despite this being the only avenue provided for so-called technical support, I don't think a solution is forthcoming. (Would it be so hard to post a message saying 'we hear you and we've put this on the list for the programmers to look at'?) Consequently, I've been forced to find another program to play my music even though I would prefer Winamp.

I am following up one other lead, though. It appears some of the folks who frequent www.portableapps.com have gotten Winamp to work in their portable system. (A lot like U3, but open source and runs on any flash drive.) I'm hoping I can find a way to apply that to my U3 drive.
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Old 15th January 2007, 03:17   #15
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There is nothing magical about a portable version of Winamp. Except for any file associations in the registry, everything is self contained in the Winamp folder. Copy the folder on over.

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Old 15th January 2007, 03:27   #16
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Quote:
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There is nothing magical about a portable version of Winamp. Except for any file associations in the registry, everything is self contained in the Winamp folder. Copy the folder on over.
There are other considerations for U3. One is that the programs are not supposed to leave a trace on the computer you've just visited. Regular Winamp does alter the registry and changes you make in your copied Winamp can change the settings for the regular installation on that computer. That's why the U3 Winamp also has a app included that goes in and cleans up after itself. Portable is one thing. Portable and no trace left behind is another.

And even if you didn't care about that, just copying the folder still doesn't put an entry in the U3 menu system, so then every time you want to play something, you have to dig down through five directories to find and run the executable. The 'magic', apparently is in getting U3 to know that Winamp is there. And that's what's really irritating about this. For a Winamp programmer who understands how U3 works, this would probably take an hour to fix, if that. But for a non-programmer like me, it's nearly impossible.
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Old 15th January 2007, 16:02   #17
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to uninstall the u3 s**t
http://u3.com/uninstall/final.aspx
or
http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/u3/launchpadremoval.exe


4 reinstall
http://u3.sandisk.com/download/apps/LPInstaller.exe
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Old 17th January 2007, 02:18   #18
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I got it installed! Now I think there may be something in our computer systems that's causing a conflict with the installation. I tried to install it on both of my computers numerous times and it didn't work. But they are very similarly configured. Then, today, I was testing both the U3 flash key and another flash key with PortableApps on several computers in my college's computer labs. Just on a chance, I ran the install from U3 Central again and this time it worked. So, for those others who are having problems, try it on as many different systems as you can find until you find one that will install it. I'm sure if we could compare systems, we'd find something in common, but I'll just settle for having the problem solved for now.
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Old 18th January 2007, 19:53   #19
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After trying to install winamp on different computers i managed to install it in school today. It even worked. But when i pluged in my Sandisk U3 Micro memorystick Winamp wouldn't start. I Got the errormessage: An Error Has Occurred While Trying To Start The Selected Program.
Why?! I get so tired of this crap. And there is no other well-working program for U3 Devices for playing music as far as i know. i don't want to pay 20$ for spider player
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Old 18th January 2007, 22:09   #20
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I discovered the same thing. It all seemed to work, but now whenever I take it back to a computer on which it wouldn't install, it gives the same error message that you mentioned. So my original pleasure at getting it to work is now replaced with irritation again that the Winamp folks won't do anything about it (or even acknowledge that we exist).

As far as alternatives go, this one isn't perfect, but it does let you play your tunes for free. There is a free portable media player available at www.portableapps.com. This site is run by the same guy that produces the U3 versions of Open Office and Firefox. This player will install and run from your (any, actually) USB flash drive, but it won't be installed in your U3 menu. To play your tunes, you'd have to go click on the executable. Actually, there was some talk of a way to get something like that added to the U3 menus, but it started to get complicated. Anyway, it's an option and its free.
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Old 6th March 2007, 00:47   #21
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a few things we need to know to try to norrow the scope of this issue.

who is the manufacturer of the drives you are using?

What is the U3 LP version on your device?

What is the device version of the device you are using?

What version of Winamp are you trying to install?

Are you installing from U3 download central?

Have you tried downloading winamp to your computers and installing from there?

After winamp installation has failed can you post the content of the LPDB.xml and LPGDB.xml files?

what is the exact error you recieve when installing winamp(screen shots would help)?

Do all other applications install normally?

hopefully we will be able to figure this one out.
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Old 6th March 2007, 03:17   #22
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Hey, from the questions, it sounds like you work for Nullsoft. It'd sure be nice to have some attention (even if I have already paid for the other program). So here goes for mine.

who is the manufacturer of the drives you are using?
Sandisk

What is the U3 LP version on your device?
1,2,0,9 (sic)

What is the device version of the device you are using?
2.18

What version of Winamp are you trying to install?
From U3 Central v5.3.
Downloaded from Nullsoft, unsure. It was linked to in these forums as a newer version that solved a problem with the one on U3C.

Are you installing from U3 download central?
Yes, initially.

Have you tried downloading winamp to your computers and installing from there?
Yes, there is no difference in the behavior.

After winamp installation has failed can you post the content of the LPDB.xml and LPGDB.xml files?
Yes, I'll post both at the end of this message.

what is the exact error you recieve when installing winamp(screen shots would help)?
There's not much to see. It's just the U3 install screen with a message that says "Installation of Winamp Failed". There are no other details. I'm happy to email it to you, but I don't think the forum software will allow me to attach it to a post, will it?

Do all other applications install normally?
Yes, I've never had another application fail.

There is one other thing that might be a clue, though I don't have enough info to draw conclusions.

Both computers I used while unsuccessfully trying to install Winamp to my U3 drive have desktop Winamp installed. Later, I got Winamp to install on my U3 drive from a computer that didn't have desktop Winamp on it and Winamp ran fine on that computer. So then Winamp was installed on my U3 drive, but when I tried to run it on the same computers on which the installation failed, the application also failed to run. When I took it back to the computer where I installed it, it ran fine again. So it's not just an install error, but also an error in running the program. The thing is that the two computers of mine have lots of other software in common that's not on the computer on which it worked. So it might not be caused by Winamp being installed but by some other program altogether.

Okay, thanks for the help. The contents of the two files you asked for follow.

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<LPDB><APPLICATION guid="285E6953-BF3C-4445-9376-3FE5D7F645B2" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="5/24/2006 12:18:14 PM">\signupshield-pm-sandisk-v04_05_15_00.u3p</APPLICATION><APPLICATION guid="1F30627F-0195-44d4-8C24-1999F3C02C50" launchOnStart="Y" lastUsed="5/24/2006 12:18:42 PM">\avast81.u3p</APPLICATION><APPLICATION guid="0DE4F643-C398-46ec-9339-2362F2311932" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="5/24/2006 12:19:04 PM">\Skype(2.0.14.85)(u3)(1062)hotfix_test.u3p</APPLICATION><APPLICATION guid="1039E4D2-DE56-4bd2-B564-7D178F5DF6F0" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="21-Nov-06 3:00:01 PM">\weatherbug.u3p</APPLICATION><APPLICATION guid="3C9F7B3F-D55C-42cd-8537-B878518B73AF" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="1/12/2007 11:03:04 PM">\firefox.u3p</APPLICATION><APPLICATION guid="EC30627F-0195-44d4-8C24-1B09F3C02C50" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="01/17/07 5:18:35 PM">\CruzerSync_U3Edition_v6_2_040_0.u3p</APPLICATION><APPLICATION guid="A03D6062-1ED3-42bc-BE90-304840637DD8" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="1/24/2007 12:43:32 AM">\SpiderPlayerMobile.u3p</APPLICATION><APPLICATION guid="573c1d30-4ba7-11da-8cd6-0800200c9a66" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="1/24/2007 1:01:56 AM">\IrfanView_398_all_plugins.u3p</APPLICATION><APPLICATION guid="260675C0-DD68-4e79-8266-9902910E103D" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="2/27/2007 8:00:39 PM">\eWallet.u3p</APPLICATION><APPLICATION guid="1ED2AA6E-626E-4159-96DD-0A8621CDEFF1" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="2/28/2007 7:21:21 PM">\FileZilla.u3p</APPLICATION></LPDB>

<LPDB><APPLICATION guid="285E6953-BF3C-4445-9376-3FE5D7F645B2" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="5/24/2006 12:18:14 PM">\signupshield-pm-sandisk-v04_05_15_00.u3p</APPLICATION><APPLICATION guid="1F30627F-0195-44d4-8C24-1999F3C02C50" launchOnStart="Y" lastUsed="5/24/2006 12:18:42 PM">\avast81.u3p</APPLICATION><APPLICATION guid="0DE4F643-C398-46ec-9339-2362F2311932" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="5/24/2006 12:19:04 PM">\Skype(2.0.14.85)(u3)(1062)hotfix_test.u3p</APPLICATION><APPLICATION guid="1039E4D2-DE56-4bd2-B564-7D178F5DF6F0" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="21-Nov-06 3:00:01 PM">\weatherbug.u3p</APPLICATION><APPLICATION guid="3C9F7B3F-D55C-42cd-8537-B878518B73AF" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="1/12/2007 11:03:04 PM">\firefox.u3p</APPLICATION><APPLICATION guid="EC30627F-0195-44d4-8C24-1B09F3C02C50" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="01/17/07 5:18:35 PM">\CruzerSync_U3Edition_v6_2_040_0.u3p</APPLICATION><APPLICATION guid="A03D6062-1ED3-42bc-BE90-304840637DD8" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="1/24/2007 12:43:32 AM">\SpiderPlayerMobile.u3p</APPLICATION><APPLICATION guid="573c1d30-4ba7-11da-8cd6-0800200c9a66" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="1/24/2007 1:01:56 AM">\IrfanView_398_all_plugins.u3p</APPLICATION><APPLICATION guid="260675C0-DD68-4e79-8266-9902910E103D" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="2/27/2007 8:00:39 PM">\eWallet.u3p</APPLICATION><APPLICATION guid="1ED2AA6E-626E-4159-96DD-0A8621CDEFF1" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="2/28/2007 7:21:21 PM">\FileZilla.u3p</APPLICATION></LPDB>
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What version of winamp is on your computer?

I tested today with 5.33 on the computer and 5.31 on the U3 drive. I was unable to recreate the issue so i dont think it is related to winamp being installed on the computer.

What are some of the other programs the 2 computers you are having issues with have in common?

I looked through the data base files you posted and it shows that winamp does not have any lingering traces from the failed install so that is not likely the issue.

I also noticed that you are using an older version of the U3 launchpad. U3 launchpad version 1.4.0.2 is now avalible for SanDisk devices. You may want to update yours and see if it resolves the issue. It is not likely but worth a try. You can either use the update feature in the LP or use the following link for the LP installer:

http://www.sandisk.com/Retail/Default.aspx?CatID=1411 sandisk.com under downloads

I did have some of my coworkers take a look at the winamp manifest file and what we have found is rather surprising. WinAmp's manifest is not written correctly and the U3 package does not contain the proper components, which explains why the app doesn't properly terminate during Ejects or updates, and may be the reason why so many people are unable to use it. In addition, there are no deviceInstall or deviceUninstall actions present in the manifest, nor any code to install or remove any host system registry entries which (I only assume) are being created by the application and/or its plug-ins. I will have to check a bit deeper to be certain if the registry is truly being involved, but in any case the app is in need of an update.

I am now working with my contacts at U3 to see if we can work with Nullsoft to have this repackaged. I would also like to see this version removed from the U3 website and retested to make sure it meets all of the U3 compatible specifications.
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Old 6th March 2007, 22:59   #24
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with the winamp u3 installer, winamp shouldn't be touching the registry in any form due to a flag in the included winamp.ini which tells winamp to not use the registry.

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Old 6th March 2007, 23:02   #25
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The one mentioned might have been
http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp.u3p

It is different from the one available from the U3 software central site. The guys at U3 did some tinkering with the manifest, I believe. Not sure which one you're looking at where you see the incorrect manifest entries.
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Old 7th March 2007, 02:04   #26
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U3 Drive: Sandisk Cruzer Titanium 2GB

U3 LP Version: 1.4.0.2

U3 Device Version: 2.18

Winamp Version(s): v5.31 (U3 Software), v5.2.5 Build 819 (above download)

Install types attempted: internal U3 software browser, install from hard disk (exe) from U3 Central, install from hard disk (u3p) with above dowload.

Error: N/A. Window just says installation failed.

Other Apps Installed: Avast (updated), CruzerSync (updated), LaunchPad Tour (updated), Maxthon (Latest Version), SignupShield Passwords (Default Install), Skype (updated)

LPDB.XML:
<LPDB>
<APPLICATION guid="285E6953-BF3C-4445-9376-3FE5D7F645B2" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="5/24/2006 12:18:14 PM">\signupshield-pm-sandisk-v04_05_15_00.u3p</APPLICATION>
<APPLICATION guid="1F30627F-0195-44d4-8C24-1999F3C02C50" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="5/24/2006 12:18:42 PM">\avast81.u3p</APPLICATION>
<APPLICATION guid="EC30627F-0195-44d4-8C24-1B09F3C02C50" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="3/6/2007 6:35:51 PM">\CruzerSync_U3Edition_v6_3_014_0.u3p</APPLICATION>
<APPLICATION guid="79EB5C19-AB0E-4dd7-BE89-BF96301D35Z8" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="3/6/2007 6:56:33 PM">\SanDiskLaunchPadTour.u3p</APPLICATION>
<APPLICATION guid="0DE4F643-C398-46ec-9339-2362F2311932" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="3/6/2007 8:40:39 PM">\skype.u3p</APPLICATION>
<APPLICATION guid="eeb83a5a-4166-4c1e-b8bc-4d7e2ed187a5" launchOnStart="N" lastUsed="3/6/2007 8:46:37 PM">\Maxthon.u3p</APPLICATION>
</LPDB>

LPGDB.XML:
- <LPGDB>
<DONOTSHOW />
- <RUNNINGTIME>
<APPLICATION guid="79EB5C19-AB0E-4dd7-BE89-BF96301D35Z8" time="03/06/07 20:18:24" />
<APPLICATION guid="EC30627F-0195-44d4-8C24-1B09F3C02C50" time="03/06/07 18:53:36" />
<APPLICATION guid="1F30627F-0195-44d4-8C24-1999F3C02C50" time="03/06/07 20:23:51" />
<APPLICATION guid="285E6953-BF3C-4445-9376-3FE5D7F645B2" time="03/06/07 20:33:48" />
<APPLICATION guid="0DE4F643-C398-46ec-9339-2362F2311932" time="03/06/07 21:03:42" />
<APPLICATION guid="eeb83a5a-4166-4c1e-b8bc-4d7e2ed187a5" time="03/06/07 21:38:30" />
</RUNNINGTIME>
- <PROGRAMS>
<APPLICATION guid="1F30627F-0195-44d4-8C24-1999F3C02C50" order="1" />
<APPLICATION guid="EC30627F-0195-44d4-8C24-1B09F3C02C50" order="2" />
<APPLICATION guid="79EB5C19-AB0E-4dd7-BE89-BF96301D35Z8" order="3" />
<APPLICATION guid="eeb83a5a-4166-4c1e-b8bc-4d7e2ed187a5" order="4" />
<APPLICATION guid="285E6953-BF3C-4445-9376-3FE5D7F645B2" order="5" />
<APPLICATION guid="0DE4F643-C398-46ec-9339-2362F2311932" order="6" />
</PROGRAMS>
<DEVICELABEL>CruzerT 2GB</DEVICELABEL>
<DEVICElABELFLAG>1</DEVICElABELFLAG>
<UpdatesAutoCheck>1</UpdatesAutoCheck>
<LastAutoCheckTime>1173235687</LastAutoCheckTime>
</LPGDB>
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Old 7th March 2007, 02:33   #27
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What version of winamp is on your computer?

Version 5.32

I tested today with 5.33 on the computer and 5.31 on the U3 drive. I was unable to recreate the issue so i dont think it is related to winamp being installed on the computer.

You know, I just have a gut feeling that it's not Winamp itself. That seems so obvious and its hard to believe that the people testing it at Nullsoft wouldn't have Winamp on their own systems to test what happens with the two copies at once.

What are some of the other programs the 2 computers you are having issues with have in common?

Where to begin? There are lots of smallers or obscure applications but since lots of people have this problem, it's probably something more common. The most notable of those (i.e. likely to be causing problems) are MS Office 2003, Adobe Creative Suite 2, Adobe Production Studio, Zone Alarm Suite, MS ActiveSync.

I also noticed that you are using an older version of the U3 launchpad. U3 launchpad version 1.4.0.2 is now avalible for SanDisk devices. You may want to update yours and see if it resolves the issue. It is not likely but worth a try. You can either use the update feature in the LP or use the following link for the LP installer:

http://www.sandisk.com/Retail/Default.aspx?CatID=1411 sandisk.com under downloads

There seem to be some differences in hardware among the different Sandisk flash drives, even of the same model. That makes me wonder if this new version is intended for my drive. When I ask the LP to check for a new version, it says I have the latest one. I'll check into downloading the one you linked to.

I am now working with my contacts at U3 to see if we can work with Nullsoft to have this repackaged. I would also like to see this version removed from the U3 website and retested to make sure it meets all of the U3 compatible specifications.

Just remind them that whatever is causing this is also causing Winamp not to run if it is installed. I'm not the only one with that symptom (see messages above).

Thanks for time you're spending pursuing this.

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Old 8th March 2007, 00:18   #28
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Looks like a nerve was struck. Sometime between last night and tonight Winamp was removed from the Audio/Video downloads section on U3’s website. Hopefully we'll have a fully compatible and working release soon ^_^
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Old 8th March 2007, 03:12   #29
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That's a great sign! Here's hoping...
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Old 10th March 2007, 00:55   #30
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Two days later and nothing. I guess this is a sign that the problem did exist and it's hard to track down. Hopefully it'll be up by Monday. I was looking forward to having access to a selection of my music and the best player I've ever had on the go .
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Old 18th March 2007, 22:35   #31
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So should we forget about Winamp U3 or can we at least get an update?
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Old 30th March 2007, 15:54   #32
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answer is hear

I know what to do

downlod the latest pro version (or normel it dosint mater which) then downlod pakagefactuny u3 @ eura.com then convert the files contaned in C:/program files/winamp (that might be speld rong) save the U3P file somewar u will remember then go to the u3 lonch pad clik ad new program/from computer then navigate to ware u saved the U3P file select it and hi open instaling it will take a while but is worth it

now u have winamp for U3!
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Old 30th March 2007, 22:25   #33
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No you don't because this setup will leave stuff behind on each computer you use. And if that computer has another installation of Winamp on it, and you change settings, those changed settings will stay behind. Part of what makes a U3 app a U3 app is that is cleans up after itself.
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Old 3rd April 2007, 11:43   #34
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mine dosint leve stuf behind
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Old 4th April 2007, 03:00   #35
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Do this. Go to a computer that already has Winamp on it. Start up the installed copy and take note of some of the settings. Now plug in your 'portable' Winamp and change those settings in that one. Now remove your U3 drive and start up the installed copy again. See how the changes you made carried over? Also, there will be other changes to the registry you don't see, but they're there. The U3 version runs a cleanup program when it closes to remove those.
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Old 4th April 2007, 08:25   #36
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zeel's thing isn't even officially sanctioned so people shouldn't be touching it (same goes for any other improper rebundling's of the winamp package - it's at your own risk and shouldn't be done unless you can trust the source though no one should be doing it due to the distro license if i remember correctly)

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Old 4th April 2007, 10:28   #37
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Also, there will be other changes to the registry you don't see, but they're there.
You need to make sure that no_registry=1 is set in winamp.ini (default value is no_registry=0), and then Winamp will not write anything to the registry.

Other than that, sorry but I'm really not familar with U3 whatsoever, heh.
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Old 18th April 2007, 06:38   #38
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Well I figured out on my own a way to install Winamp U3 that does not involve any third party tricks. I used the package shown above since U3 has removed theirs and I didn't keep a backup.

While attempting the install again just for kicks, I noticed there was still activity on the stick after installation failed. I happened to have the main Avast U3 window open and noticed it was still scanning plugins. This made me wonder if perhaps there were too many plugin files or the installation was taking too long, which it does compared to most products I've installed.

I opened the u3p package as a zip and copied the “Plugins” folder to my desktop before deleting it from the archive without altering any other files. I again tried the install from PC option and it installed without a hitch. Though I did notice two things, one of which I expected. When I launched it, I got a dll/plugin error and the unexpected error was that Winamp said 5.31 instead of 5.25. This means the install from U3 was still on the drive. Apparently after exploring the drive, the main program runs from the hidden partition of U3 instead of the System directory. This means anyone who just deleted the System\Apps\C7D3B0AA-0C02-4734-8DD3-F2C987B5D514 directory still has the bulk of the program hidden away and eating up space (~25MB uncompressed with plugins).

I'm going to attempt to see how many plugins I can leave in the package before the installation fails. If I can get them all but the visual ones (which I wouldn't be worried about on a PC away from home anyway) then I'll be set. Maybe all they need to do for a proper repackaging that works for everyone is exclude excess plugins.

[Edit]:
For those wondering why I haven't mentioned or tried repackaging a newer version, this is because I don't know if modifications have been made to winamp.exe for it to accept U3/LP commands such as cleanup. If it hasn't been modified and merely translated through one of the included U3 related exe's, then I'll try it and just keep updating the manifest.u3i with the new "version" number.

[Edit2]:
I got a successful install without the AVS and Milkdrop folders. I think I'll keep it this way. Weird thing is the exe still says 5.31 after uninstalling the previous plugin-free install with the now available option through launchpad. I may have to install a version better than 5.31 before it's over-written and removed. Hopefully it's not just plain un-reachable.

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Old 25th July 2007, 08:28   #39
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Trying to help U3'ers install Winamp for U3

To fix Winamp.zip/install for the U3 Smart Programs I first
expanded the zip file and then removed Un-needed Plugin
Folders "Milkdrop" and "avs", seems they were causing the
install routine to abort. Then in order not to get another
error-message when trying to re-zip or compress them back
into a zipfile (because the "Device" folder was empty) I
placed into it a bogus/empty text file. After attaining
the Zip file, I simple renamed it as something with an
extension of ".u3p" and the install finished and worked
with the "U3 Lauchpad" just fine. I continued the same
Procedure separately with each of the 3 plugins, adding
one at a time, uninstalling the old working Winamp and
then reinstalling each new one with an added plugin each
time until all were finally proven to work and function
perfectly. Now I have my 3 plugins, "Intro-Play",
"VU_Meter", & "Toaster" working great so I can play only
short intitial sections of songs if I like, can see full
stereo effect in the old-fashioned VU Meters if I should
like, and above all, be able to see IDv3 Tag embedded
Albums covers as each song plays oooooh so nicely. Now,
and on any computer that I decide I want to stick the
New Sandisk Cruzer 2GB USB FlashDrive into I can have
that and files hidden and secure on a portable pocket
flash drive!
Hope this helps someone! Oh, and aaaa ..... to all you
above me up there, thank you also! It is great for us
all to have the rights and abilities to find solutions
together as one ........ thanks to WinAmp and our
Lord Jesus!
Jeff in TX
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Old 25th July 2007, 13:50   #40
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Great job, Jeff!

Great job, Jeff!!! You're the only person (including apparently the Winamp programmers) who was able to figure out what was really wrong and hack together a solution that actually works while preserving the special U3 characteristics of this version. I couldn't care less about visualizations (I always run Winamp in windowshade mode) so I won't miss those plugins at all.

After Sandisk's announcement that they're abandoning U3 development, I had completely given up ever having a U3 Winamp, but here I am listening to it right now.

Thanks, dude!

Edit: Hey I never saw Darnell's edits before and didn't realize before writing this message that he's the one who pointed the way. Great job, Darnell!!! Thanks to both of you for figuring this out and getting my U3 Winamp working!
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