Winamp 5.8 Beta, Build 3660 (official)

[DJ Egg]

Winamp 5.8 Beta, Build 3660

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Winamp 5.8
* New: Windows Audio (WASAPI) Output plug-in (w.i.p.)
* Improved: Added an option to completely disable Winamp's video support
* Improved: Added an auto-fullscreen option to video prefs
* Improved: Added /ENUMPLAYLISTS to the command-line support
* Improved: Windows 8.1 and 10 compatibility
* Improved: [in_mod] OpenMPT-based Module Player (replaces old MikMod player)
* Improved: [ml_playlists] Added browse path & edit title functions in Ctrl+E editor
* Improved: [Bento] Updated scrollbars and buttons and other tweaks (thanks Martin)
* Improved: [Bento & Modern skins] Added a Playlist Search feature (thanks Victor)
* Fixed: New URLs not being remembered after using Reset history in Open URL dialog
* Fixed: Various memory leaks
* Fixed: [gen_tray] Not showing correct current icon pack in preferences
* Fixed: [in_avi] Divide-by-zero crash with badly formed files (thanks ITDefensor)
* Fixed: [in_mp3] Crashing with some ID3v2 tags
* Fixed: [ml_wire] Slow loading issue
* Fixed: [ssdp] Crash on load if jnetlib was not correctly initialized
* Misc: Minimum required OS is now Win XP sp3 (Windows 7 or higher recommended)
* Misc: More general tweaks, improvements, fixes and optimizations
* Misc: Moved shared DLLs to Winamp\Shared folder
* Removed: All former "Pro" licensed functions (Winamp is now 100% freeware again)
* Removed: gen_jumpex & UnicodeTaskbarFix (making way for native implementations)
* Removed: ml_nowplaying
* Removed: [in_wm] DRM support
* Replaced: CD playback and ripping now using native Windows API (instead of Sonic)
* Replaced: MP3 Decoder now mpg123 based (instead of Fraunhofer)
* Replaced: AAC Decoder now using Media Foundation (Vista and higher)
* Replaced: H.264 Decoder now using Media Foundation (Vista and higher)
* Replaced: MPEG-4 Pt.2 Decoder now using Media Foundation (Vista and higher)
* Updated: [in_vorbis] libogg 1.3.3 & libvorbis 1.3.6
* Updated: [libFLAC] FLAC 1.3.2
* Updated: [libyajl] libyajl v2.1.0
* Updated: [OpenSSL] OpenSSL v1.0.1i
* Updated: [png] libpng v1.5.24

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Language Packs
- Polish | Info
- Spanish | Info
- More to follow


Tip

We recommend using the "custom" install option instead of "standard".

Custom install lets you choose components, like before, whereas standard defaults to "all" on clean installs, or "previous" on upgrades.


Notes:

Some features are works-in-progress, e.g. new in_mod & out_wasapi plugins

Sorry, no CD burning, autotag or cddb features yet.
No multinational version with lang packs yet either.


Changes since unofficial build 3563

Removed ml_nowplaying; updated libogg, libvorbis, libflac & libopenmpt; copyright updates; added more genres to file info dialog; new digital cert; various other general tweaks, fixes and prep work....

More to follow.

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[niwrad777]

What about language support?

[thinktink]

lol, somebody forgot to update the installer window text.

[eliotime3000]

Originally Posted by niwrad777

What about language support?

The 58 beta version does not support multilanguage profile. So, this feature can be avariable soon or in the closed beta of Winamp 6.x.

[eliotime3000]

Originally Posted by DJ Egg

Winamp 5.8 Beta, Build 3660

http://www.winamp.com

Winamp 5.8
* New: Windows Audio (WASAPI) Output plug-in (w.i.p.)
* Improved: Added an option to completely disable Winamp's video support
* Improved: Added an auto-fullscreen option to video prefs
* Improved: Added /ENUMPLAYLISTS to the command-line support
* Improved: Windows 8.1 and 10 compatibility
* Improved: [in_mod] OpenMPT-based Module Player (replaces old MikMod player)
* Improved: [ml_playlists] Added browse path & edit title functions in Ctrl+E editor
* Improved: [Bento] Updated scrollbars and buttons and other tweaks (thanks Martin)
* Improved: [Bento & Modern skins] Added a Playlist Search feature (thanks Victor)
* Fixed: New URLs not being remembered after using Reset history in Open URL dialog
* Fixed: Various memory leaks
* Fixed: [gen_tray] Not showing correct current icon pack in preferences
* Fixed: [in_avi] Divide-by-zero crash with badly formed files (thanks ITDefensor)
* Fixed: [in_mp3] Crashing with some ID3v2 tags
* Fixed: [ml_wire] Slow loading issue
* Fixed: [ssdp] Crash on load if jnetlib was not correctly initialized
* Misc: Minimum required OS is now Win XP sp3 (Windows 7 or higher recommended)
* Misc: More general tweaks, improvements, fixes and optimizations
* Misc: Moved shared DLLs to Winamp\Shared folder
* Removed: All former "Pro" licensed functions (Winamp is now 100% freeware again)
* Removed: gen_jumpex & UnicodeTaskbarFix (making way for native implementations)
* Removed: ml_nowplaying
* Removed: [in_wm] DRM support
* Replaced: CD playback and ripping now using native Windows API (instead of Sonic)
* Replaced: MP3 Decoder now mpg123 based (instead of Fraunhofer)
* Replaced: AAC Decoder now using Media Foundation (Vista and higher)
* Replaced: H.264 Decoder now using Media Foundation (Vista and higher)
* Replaced: MPEG-4 Pt.2 Decoder now using Media Foundation (Vista and higher)
* Updated: [in_vorbis] libogg 1.3.3 & libvorbis 1.3.6
* Updated: [libFLAC] FLAC 1.3.2
* Updated: [libyajl] libyajl v2.1.0
* Updated: [OpenSSL] OpenSSL v1.0.1i
* Updated: [png] libpng v1.5.24

____________________________________________________________


Notes:

Some features are works-in-progress, e.g. new in_mod & out_wasapi plugins

Sorry, no CD burning, autotag or cddb features yet.
No multinational version with lang packs yet either.


Changes since unofficial build 3563

Removed ml_nowplaying; updated libogg, libvorbis, libflac & libopenmpt; copyright updates; added more genres to file info dialog; new digital cert; various other general tweaks, fixes and prep work....

More to follow.

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One question...

Exist a possibilty to use the FFMPEG and/or Libav codecs for H.264/X.264 and/or many others for Windows XP SP3 usage?

[joatmon]

it should be noted you will lose any milkdrop 2 presets / sprites when you update if you dont back them up first .. just found out the hard way ..

[PeterK.]

And clicking on the OPTIMIZE button in the Skin->Modern Skin->General tab crashes Winamp. (Windows 10)

Update: The crash has apparently to do with alphabackground xml-tag in my skin, which creates a transparent background in the "About" window.

[evil_pro]

This is confusing. Here it's said that a few features are work-in-progress. On the main page it says that this is not an ongoing project.

This version is not an ongoing project but be sure that we are currently working hard on a future new Winamp.

What's happening with 5.8 now?

[DJ-Garybaldy]

They've only released it because their hand was forced into it.... nearly 5 years its taken to get to this stage. Radionomy don't care for Winamp

I for one won't be installing Winamp again that ship has sailed here as I suspect it will have done for other users.

[joatmon]

Originally Posted by PeterK.

And clicking on the OPTIMIZE button in the Skin->Modern Skin->General tab crashes Winamp. (Windows 10)

No issues on my end , did it multiple times no crash

[DJ Egg]

@niwrad777

No lang packs in this build.
5.8 should still support the 5.666 lang packs,
but they need updating.....

We should probably revive the xlat site/project,
but unfortunately, it's been a long time since any activity/contact :-(


@thinktink

Correct. My bad, lol.
It's been changed for the next build.


@evil_pro

There might be e.g. a 5.81 and further updates.
We shall see.


@eliotime3000

It will install on XP, but as you've found, it requires Vista or newer for Windows Media Foundation based codec support such as AAC & MP4 (MPEG-4 part 2, H.264, etc) and also the native Windows api for CD playback.
For AAC, you'd need to replace in_mp3.dll with the version from 5.666, plus old system\aacdec.w5s decoder, and also remove in_avi.dll, in_mp4.dll & in_mkv.dll and add AVI;MP4;MKV (etc) to in_dshow config instead.


@PeterK.

Which skin? Is there anything we can do to prevent that? Or is it something skinners will need to address?


@joatmon

Please explain further. I couldn't reproduce the milkdrop issue with the installer.
Reinstall and select the "custom" option. Make sure Milkdrop is checkmarked....

[DJ Egg]

If confronted with "Windows protected your PC" dialog on Win10 (see attached screenshot), this will be due to our new digital signing certificate which won't yet have been recognized in the internal MS database.

Note where it says "prevented an unrecognized app from running".

It doesn't say there's a virus or any malware detected, just that it's unknown
and it will be due to the new cert (possibly in combination with the filename).

It is safe to click "Run anyway".
Though obviously note that it's still "beta" software.....

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[Squashed]

Just installed 5.8.3660.
No playlist generator plugin shipped with this one?
Is this because that plugin stopped working in older versions and wouldn't also work in 5.8?
Or do I just need to download it somewhere else (if so, where?)

[MattV0]

Hi, just installed. Almost everything works for me. Except one problem with wasapi: everytime there is a music break (next song, stop and play, ..) the windows sound volume is set to 0 and inside Winamp I have to change volume a bit to set this back.

[ammrayet]

My audio problem of jittering/crackling still persists with this version. I am waiting for a moderator to post my thread about this issue.

[PeterK.]

Originally Posted by DJ Egg

@PeterK.

Which skin? Is there anything we can do to prevent that? Or is it something skinners will need to address?.

Hello DJ Egg and thanks for the update.

I just ran some tests with recent development files from my skin (see screenshot) and must admit that the culprit was hiding somewhere else.

In the upcoming version 2.3 of my skin there will be a new feature called Playlist Editor2, which will contain some useful options regarding editing playlists:



And within the script for that particular component I found a bug, which never made problems while running the skin. I just put a setDelay(); within a timer and hitting the OPTIMIZE button caused that whole mayhem. So we're good now.

[ReeferMan]

Just one Question!

Do all or most of the 3rd party addons/skins still work?


Greetings, ReeferMan

[PeterK.]

Originally Posted by ReeferMan

Just one Question!... skins still work?

Yes.

[ReeferMan]

Originally Posted by PeterK.

Yes.

Cool, thx

[PeterK.]

May I share some improvements tips with the developer team from the "skinner-point-of-view" and if yes where should I post them?

[nospam]

hi
Windows 10 scaling does not work.
Screenshot https://i.imgur.com/NxshEhO.jpg

[PeterK.]

Originally Posted by nospam

hi
Windows 10 scaling does not work.
Screenshot https://i.imgur.com/NxshEhO.jpg

Go to Options->Double Size. This is the only help here. Classic skin has a fixed size, which do not "respond" to Windows' scaling factor. The other idea would be to get a Modern Skin and apply Winamp's scaling option.

[zumer]

Great news! Checked, works fine!

[Donkey11]

Originally Posted by niwrad777

What about language support?

Can be taken from the old version
I installed a package from version 5.64

[zepper]

Great to see Winamp back, we loyal users never gave up. Look forward to 5.81 or the official 5.80 if there is going to be one.

The option for Windows Media Foundation is nice but thankfully ffdshow still works, there's far more options with that and changing basics like like aspect ratio and cropping is limited with Windows Media Foundation so please don't consider removing the in_dshow.dll plugin if XP support ends.

[ryerman]

It seems that Winamp development was stalled because there was no lead developer:
http://forums.winamp.com/showpost.ph...postcount=1483
http://forums.winamp.com/showpost.ph...postcount=1494
http://forums.winamp.com/showpost.ph...postcount=1999

The release of Winamp v5.8 Beta suggests that Radionomy finally found a suitable lead developer. And it took only 4 years!
There is a new lead developer, right? How else could a new version be released?

Who is the new lead developer for the desktop Winamp?
Will the desktop development team participate in this forum regarding bugs, wishes or suggestions?
Time will tell.
I'm not holding my breath.

[Greydaddy]

This is great news, ty you for keep on keepin on!

[porschedrifter]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOW THIS IS AMAZING!! Thanks for keeping it alive. Been using winamp since it first came out and it's a part of me.

[MrSinatra]

Ryerman asks pertinent questions.

meanwhile, here is my review so far of 5.8 3660

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=453692

[DJ Egg]

@Squashed
All Gracenote components were removed (cddb, playlist generator, etc.).
All "Licensed to AOL" 3rd-party components/services/features were removed (Gracenote, Sonic, Fraunhofer, etc.).
We still need to replace cd burning, cddb & autotag/acoustic-fingerprinting features -
which was one of the reasons why we didn't release 5.8 sooner (i.e. because it was missing features from 5.666).

@PeterK.
Yes. But where?

@ryerman
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....87#post3162187

[MrSinatra]

imo, CD burning should be a low, if not very low priority.

autotagging, cover art, audio fingerprinting should prob be the top priority.

after that, R128 RG, and once i have collected more info i'll have another good suggestion.

its unclear tho, is Benski back? officially? unofficially? what?

[Xaemyl]

Originally Posted by DJ Egg

* Improved: [Bento & Modern skins] Added a Playlist Search feature (thanks Victor)

Would it be possible in a future release to add an option to turn the playlist search box off?

Other than that, as an old user since the early 2000s, it's looking good!

[MrSinatra]

Originally Posted by Xaemyl

Would it be possible in a future release to add an option to turn the playlist search box off?

i haven't checked the options to see if that or this is possible, but i would like that and an option to move it to the bottom of the playlist, and/or bottom of the playlist, but above the artwork.

[PeterK.]

Originally Posted by DJ Egg

Yes. But where?

It depends how many developers are interested and will be willing to read this stuff. If you are the only one, I could send you PMs or mail.

On the other side I would like other fellow skinners to join me and to share their experience. In this case a new thread called "Improvements tips for 5.8+" would be the best location.

What do you think?

[NJK]

Originally Posted by PeterK.

It depends how many developers are interested and will be willing to read this stuff. If you are the only one, I could send you PMs or mail.

On the other side I would like other fellow skinners to join me and to share their experience. In this case a new thread called "Improvements tips for 5.8+" would be the best location.

What do you think?

Done , go ahead.

[ryerman]

Originally Posted by ryerman

Who is the new lead developer for the desktop Winamp?
Will the desktop development team participate in this forum regarding bugs, wishes or suggestions?

Originally Posted by DJ Egg

@ryerman
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....87#post3162187

@DJ Egg
Why did you provide a link to a post by Benski: "Former Winamp Developer"?
Are you saying that Ben Allison is now the lead developer for Winamp's desktop version?
Maybe you know that the conflict-of-interest he mentions has been resolved so that working as a part-time developer for Vivendi is now acceptable?

I don't understand the relevance of the link you provided.
If you want to answer my previous questions, please be explicit.

[DJ Egg]

Originally Posted by Xaemyl

Would it be possible in a future release to add an option to turn the playlist search box off?

Other than that, as an old user since the early 2000s, it's looking good!

There already is an option :-)

Bento => Options menu => Playlist => Show playlist search box

[DJ Egg]

Originally Posted by niwrad777

What about language support?

xlat has now been updated with latest wlz (also the ftp server for latest .nsh)

Best website ever!

[NJK]

Have used Winamp beta today on the local radio station as playout system and it worked like a charme.
not one issue detected while running it on a 3 hour radio show.
the fade out and fade in went smooth.

now downloading it on my home computer.

[zepper]

Definite improvements in memory on Win7 with this new version. Typically a playlist of videos would run using over 100mbs and would keep climbing but now it's been cut more than half. Same playlist now using less 50mbs

Streaming radio also down. Usually that would use up 30mbs or more but currently only 7.3mbs after an hour so good job fixing memory leaks.