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Old 9th May 2006, 08:59   #1
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Onto the Scale (bands that sucked but got progressivly better)

Yes, I'm ripping off Cylob, but only because we all love him.

Sort of.

Anyways. What bands, in your opinion, started out being absolute shit but just got better and keep getting better?

I have two to enter.

Paradise Lost. They started out as mediocre Doom/Death growl metal and continuously evolved through Heavy/Doom Metal, through kind of a Depeche Mode phase and into Goth Rock.

The Gathering. Started out as really, really slow, boring doom metal, then ditched their Singer for Anneke and turned Prog Rock. They just get better every release.

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Old 9th May 2006, 09:33   #2
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Good idea

The Smashing Pumpkins. Started as a boring grunge act and suddenly became great when they ditched Butch Vig in favour of Flood on Mellon Collie.
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Old 9th May 2006, 10:00   #3
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Re: Onto the Scale (bands that sucked but got progressivly better)

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The Gathering. Started out as really, really slow, boring doom metal, then ditched their Singer for Anneke and turned Prog Rock. They just get better every release.
The Gathering, Prog Rock? I guess if Saint Etienne can do it, anyone can do it.

Stereolab - The odd dodgy album, but "Transient-Random Noise Bursts" in 1993 was nothing short of a miracle. And, they maintained the high standard for the next 10 years.

Pop Will Eat Itself - The same goes for many C-86 bands, they disposed of jangle-pop and became 'proper' bands overnight. In PWEI's case, they came up with one of the best electronic albums of all time, out of nowhere. Well, thanks to Flood. Again, they maintained a very high standard.

Slowdive - Their first 3 EP's were allegedly the best of 1990, but "Souvlaki" of 1993 took everything good about dreampop and threw it in your face. They never could top it, but that'd be impossible.

Primal Scream - Started out with a decent album (in the C-86 mould), but within 5 years had metamorphosed into (well, nobody quite knows). Some downs after that, but generally they've stayed good.

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Stereolab didn't start crap though, they're just one of the many bands whose first records are "not yet fully developed" (as critics would put it).
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Old 9th May 2006, 10:45   #5
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Peng was nothing special, the track titles imply something more than what you got. For me, they didn't exist until "Super Electric".

Their new album's bloody hard to get into (as ever). The bastards do it every time!!!!!!!! The rocket scientists of pop music.

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bleh

I immediately liked Margerine Eclipse (I'm a sucker for details), the new one sounds rather slight in comparison.

The main problem with Peng imo is the production, or rather lack thereof. The songs are already there, they're just lacking impact.
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Margerine Eclipse was an improvement on Sound Dust (which was more "noodly excursion" than proper album).

I'm the only person alive who LOVES Cobra & Phases Group, so my take on Stereolab probably differs from most.

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Sound Dust was their Prog-Rock album.
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Old 9th May 2006, 15:38   #9
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And their worst since Mars Audiac.

The Captain Easychord 7" was the highlight (an ambient pop track becoming a new wave rocker that any 80's band would envy). Only Stereolab could pull off such a feat!

Don't get me started, I could get sucked up a 'spacey double spiral' and stereolab the day away.

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I like both Sound Dust and Mars Audiac Quintet (better than eg. Dots And Loops which probably has aged least well of all their albums (but wait for the mid 90s electronica revival...)).

Er, what was the topic again?
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Old 9th May 2006, 21:55   #11
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BT, though I wouldn't say he started off crappy, but he has definately developed himself as a musician with each album from Ima. They great thing with him is he keeps pushing himself and changing himself. Pioneering trance with Ima, then pushing in the breaks on ESCM. Experimenting with Hip-Hop and alt rock on Movement in Still Life and really pushing the boundaries of the electronic genre with Emotional Technology. I can't wait to hear This Binary Universe.
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Camper Van Beethoven

The first album is a (admittedly charming) joke with one surprise hit, the last (regular) one is nothing less than the perfect College Rock album.
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Old 16th May 2006, 13:51   #13
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Massive Attack

It may be a bit harsh, considering they've only done one crap album, but it was that bad it's hard to see them coming back.

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Wrong thread?

I'd say they fit very well into 'progressively worse' (ok, it can be argued whether Mezzanine is weaker than Protection).
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I saw Camper Van Beethoven and thought it was t' other thread.

I don't know, Mezzanine (for me) was far better than Protection, the unscalable heights they later fell off of. You could say Bristol in general went off the scale...

I'll try to get the right thread next time.

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