Old 3rd April 2004, 04:21   #1
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If you had a clone, and had sex with it, would that be incest or masturbation?
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Old 3rd April 2004, 04:25   #2
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Old 3rd April 2004, 05:25   #3
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i dont want to stick my penis up my butt...
now if it was a clone that was altered to be a female....

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hmm, but would you make a hot girl?

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It would be neither. "Cloning" is merely the production of a genetically identical and physically similar human being. It's a form of a process that's been around for decades. Philosophically and physically it would be exactly like being an in vitro twin and then doing your in vitro twin.

You are expressing the misconception most people hold, not that the clone is a 1:1 reproduction of your soul, but that you somehow possess and maintain a superior relation to the clone - that all aspects of the clone can be related to you.

So succintly, what is going on is that you are getting yourself off physically by ass-raping your clone as well as mentally by confirming sexually your superiority to your duplicate (your replacement, perhaps?) while simultaneously allowing for your own potential failures as an extension of the unnatural circumstance of the original to clone relationship. By this last bit I mean both the doubts sparked by such direct reproduction which can be compared to forms of incest, as well as the doubts that could arise from an identical clone achieving greater success than you, the original.

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Let's say my "clone" was somehow altered to be female, and I had sex with her, and impregnated her. Wouldn't our offspring be identical to ourselves?

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Except for one thing dlinkwit, it's a dude. Why fuck a dude at all, or even think of it?

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Let's say my "clone" was somehow altered to be female, and I had sex with her, and impregnated her. Wouldn't our offspring be identical to ourselves?
Not necessarily... There would be overlaps between some of your genetic material (some of it would appear twice, other parts wouldn't appear at all.
Net result: S/He'd probably have a few recessive traits that you have, brought forward as the dominant part currently in you was left out.

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Not necessarily... There would be overlaps between some of your genetic material (some of it would appear twice, other parts wouldn't appear at all.
Net result: S/He'd probably have a few recessive traits that you have, brought forward as the dominant part currently in you was left out.
... I don't think so. But then, I'm not a geneticist.

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Not necessarily... There would be overlaps between some of your genetic material (some of it would appear twice, other parts wouldn't appear at all.
Net result: S/He'd probably have a few recessive traits that you have, brought forward as the dominant part currently in you was left out.
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Cloning is wrong and procreation should be banned because if Preists, the purest salt of the Earth, can't have sex, than neither can we.

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First of all, if you were cloned now, you clone would be about 20 years younger than you (not referring to randman now ) so in any case, it would be having sex with a minor until you will be about 40...

Nimelennar - I don't think so either because the clone would only have your DNA and given that there are no errors while injecting it into the egg cell, there will be the same traits developing since the dominant things will stay dominant etc...just like identical twins.
The only differences in appearance could come from outside influences just like the way the embryo lies in the womb which is significant for the body development as well.

I would call it incest since it's a sexual relationship with a (very) close relative, because of the identical set of DNA.

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Mia: Let's assume you were cloned as a baby.

Ignoring mutation, which only accounts for a very small part of genetic change, your clone and your child would be identical. The two sets of genes would mix, and you'd have your same genetic material again. You can't take two recessive, identical genes and come up with something different, you have to have both sets of recessive genes.

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The two sets of genes would mix, and you'd have your same genetic material again.
What 2 sets of genes? I thought the common procedure to clone mammals was to empty out an egg cell of its genetic material (which is only haploid as any reproductive cell) in the nucleus and put the DNA of a body cell of that person you want to clone in it (which is diploid - already has the doubled set of DNA - this is one of the problems for the process of cloning) so there is no fusing of DNA necessary, if you didn't clear out the egg cell first and only inserted the DNA you would have a trisomic individual which is lethal.
This would ensure that there would be exactly the same set of DNA in the clone - except the mitochondrial DNA maybe if the egg is taken from another donor just like it was the case with Dolly, the nucleus DNA will be exactly the same set as from the person it was taken from.

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He's talking about having a child with your genetically identical (altered to be of the opposite sex) clone. By your logic, if any two people were to have multiple kids, the kids would all have the same DNA, because half of each would come from the parent.
HALF of the father's genetic material goes to the child, and HALF of the mother's. It doesn't necessarily have to be the same half, or mutually exclusive halves. If there were any overlap, any recessive traits in that overlap would become dominant ones.

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