Old 4th March 2007, 15:55   #81
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Interesting. In their example, they use 300 GB (AS IN 300,000,000,000 bytes) = 279.5 GiB. While that is correct (well, 279.3968), I, for one, would not state something being 300 GB in size unless I literally meant 322,122,547,200 bytes... Which is, in fact, 300 Gigs.

All of the torrents and things I download always use MiB or GiB, even though the size they list is equal to the MB and GB correspondent. A 1 "GiB" torrent download is 1 "GB" on my computer, with the correct byte size...

At any rate, I much prefer "MB" and "GB" as opposed to the "MiB" and "GiB" abbreviations. I tend to actually pronounce MiB and GiB as actual words, whereas whenever I see MB or GB, I actually say or think "megabyte" or "gigabyte".

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Old 4th March 2007, 16:02   #82
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You just found out about them.
How the hell do you have an opinion already?


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Old 4th March 2007, 16:03   #83
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But, 300GB is not 322,122,547,200. That's the point he's trying to make.

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Old 4th March 2007, 20:53   #84
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It's funny discussions like this that are the reason I got a high speed connection to begin with. You can never have shit like this load too fast.

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Old 5th March 2007, 08:56   #85
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You just found out about them.
How the hell do you have an opinion already?
You just found out that I just found out.
How the hell can you have an opinion about that fact that I had an opinion?

No, seriously. Just because I recently learned what the MiB and GiB stood for does not mean I didn't instantly understand the concept of it. I just don't care for the use of it. For the same reason I don't measure temperature in Celsius and drive in kilometers. Same reason I don't consider a 100,000,000,000 byte hard drive to be 100 GB. The meaning of the prefix changes when you move from, say, hospital usage to computer usage.

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Old 5th March 2007, 15:59   #86
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Byte == 8 bits

Yeah, it originally meant something else. How many people today, even computer scientists, mean anything but "8 bits" when they refer to a byte?

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Same reason I don't consider a 100,000,000,000 byte hard drive to be 100 GB.
Yeah, but the box still says "100 GB". :P

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Even though Mi should technically be the prefix
Bandwidth is actually counted in "decimal".

100 Mbit / sec == 100,000,000 bit / sec

Also, in the convention that I'm familiar with, if you are speaking about kilobytes (2^10) or megabytes (2^20) per second, you mean the transfer rate, which is not the same as the bandwidth—therefore you cannot simply convert by dividing by eight, you must divide by eight and account for overhead (approximately 10% for TCP over IPv4 over Ethernet).

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The tranfer rate before overhead is still not the same as bandwidth.

A byte is still only 8 bits by convention.

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