Old 15th September 2005, 17:03   #1
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I hate PayPal.

I'm selling Indiebandradio stickers, and of course most people are choosing to go through paypal to pay.

Sticker prices: 1.00, free shipping.

Costs other than stickers themselves: Envelopes - 60/$1, Stamps - .37/each, PayPal - .30 + 3%

So, I just got an order of five stickers. PayPal charged me .45 cents.

Anyone else really wish their fees would lower for lower amounts? I am charged about 5 bucks on 100 dollars... which means in the life of my paypal account I have been charged nearly 80 dollars in fees.

Now I don't care if they charge me the outrageous fee they do on 100 dollars. But when they're taking nearly 50 cents out of a dollar, it's excessive.. Damn business accounts.

yeah, i'm back.
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Old 15th September 2005, 18:16   #2
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make your stickers 1.50
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Old 15th September 2005, 18:21   #3
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make your stickers 1.50
Probably will, discount to a buck maybe for 5 or more

Still, paypal blows. Further proven by what they did to somethingawful.com's donation account for katrina

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Old 15th September 2005, 18:33   #4
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I've only ever used paypal to transfer money. I don't think I've ever used it to buy anything.
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Old 15th September 2005, 19:01   #5
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You pretty much have to if you use E-bay. No other way offers much protection so I do consider the fees a bit of insurance from being screwed over by a scammer.

And don't forget E-bay is a corporation. Corporations do what they do for profits and nothing else. And they would like to thank you for the help.

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Old 15th September 2005, 19:36   #6
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I thought paypal had changed their fees for micropayments?

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Old 21st September 2005, 01:29   #7
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No idea..

Ouch:
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Total Amount:
$585.06 USD
Fee Amount:
-$17.27 USD
Net Amount:
$567.79 USD
Twice what it costs me to cash it

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Old 21st September 2005, 01:43   #8
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entertain the ppl over at paypalsucks.com
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Old 21st September 2005, 01:47   #9
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Meh, I can't really complain, the place I cash it at requires me to have a check cashed by an actual bank (requires me contacting relatives ) and then proof brought to them that it cleared.. so maybe it's worth not wasting my time.

Oh yeah.. Who are you?

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Old 21st September 2005, 02:18   #10
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If you buy things with paypal, there is no charge.

It's when you are receiving money that they charge you.
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Old 21st September 2005, 06:07   #11
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i can see why..
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Old 21st September 2005, 06:09   #12
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this logo it's cool>
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Old 14th July 2008, 02:52   #13
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Paypal charges whatever they feel like charging. That's one of the reasons I hate Paypal. They are just in it for the money. They don't care at all about us, the people.
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Old 14th July 2008, 03:12   #14
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That would be the general concept of capitalism...

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Old 16th July 2008, 15:01   #15
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I hate paypal too.

Paypal is a bad business organization, and I would prefer not to use them at all costs. I hate paypalI hate paypal because they have stollen a lot of money from me in the past. Allowing buyer chargebacks to work in their favor no matter what the circumstances. that's just wrong!
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Old 16th July 2008, 23:46   #16
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You may hate Paypal but don't others charge even more.
2CheckOut.Com I believe has even higher fees.
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Old 17th July 2008, 02:11   #17
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You pretty much have to if you use E-bay. No other way offers much protection so I do consider the fees a bit of insurance from being screwed over by a scammer.
That's my main reason for using them too - exclusively, at the moment. As for fees, I'm not hit by the ones for lower amounts, although I agree that they need to review/modify their approach in that area. Each of the transactions for my system building business are anywhere between $2000-$4000, from which they do also take a bite. But I consider it just another cost of doing business.

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Old 17th July 2008, 14:22   #18
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well why you are afraid of paypal. most of the people prefer paying online via paypal. As paypal is the most convinient way to pay online and it's safe and secure.
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Old 18th July 2008, 08:17   #19
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Well I don't care about the fees. Right, the overhead is too much for micro payments, but it's the usual way things work. Not only money stuff, but everything.

Like, you have to go to the market, burn some gas, give some time and energy for a $0.20 pen, if you don't need anything else. Or receive/send a few thousand bytes to/from a website just to load a 10 bytes file. So fees are no problem, they are the cost of business, overheads are always a big problem for small amounts in business. And we have other choices if they don't fit our bills.

But anyway, I really don't like paypal because of their poor support and insecurity. You are never safe with them. I still have a lawsuit against them as they have charged my cc for something I didn't buy, the item doesn't appear in my history, so it's another account, but they can't tell me about the other account which is bound to my credit card. The card was not registered with my account, and I got two sms'es from my bank at the same time, one for the cc confirmation transfer (pp extid or whatever they call it) and one for the trade. So it's still a mystery how the cc got confirmed without someone accessing my bank account (checked) to see the cc bill for the confirmation number.

Anyway, though it's as bad as it gets, it's still the best option in some situations. Man aren't we desperate?
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Old 19th July 2008, 06:41   #20
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I really hate Paypal too. Has anyone ever heard of the national merchant bancard I have heard good reviews of this card.
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Old 19th July 2008, 06:50   #21
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I really hate Paypal too. Has anyone ever heard of the national merchant bancard I have heard good reviews of this card.
Harry, don't spam the board, go somewhere else. We hate spammers like you.
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Old 19th July 2008, 07:26   #22
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Hi Wally - that link wasn't openly visible/active in the thread until you quoted it; perhaps it's a moment for a Gay Pony edit?

When I saw "Bancard" (which I read as "Ban Card") I thought you had done just that kind of thing - but the link still goes to a merchant site.

Just FYI...

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