Old 9th July 2005, 07:17   #1
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San Andreas Sex Scenes

http://www.forbes.com/business/feeds...ap2130226.html

A media watchdog group on Friday denounced the maker of the hugely popular video game "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" over graphic sexual content that allegedly exists in the game and can be unlocked with an Internet download.

The game's plot is already objectionable to many people: Its main character carjacks for fun and profit and picks up women along the way.

"While San Andreas is already full of violent behavior and sexual themes, the pornographic sex scenes push it over the edge," said David Walsh, founder of The Minneapolis-based National Institute on the Media and the Family, which issued a "nationwide parental alert" Friday.

The controversy has prompted an investigation by the Entertainment Software Ratings Board, which determines the rating on every video game sold. Rockstar Games issued a statement Friday, confirming the investigation and avoiding comment on whether its programmers created the sex scenes in the first place.

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So the PC version has an unlockable secret minigame, where you go into your girlfriend's house for "coffee" which is an interactive sex minigame. Hawt.

Rockstar: "We swear we didn't program it, elves did during publishing!"

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Old 9th July 2005, 07:30   #2
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i am getting tired of seeing what would be more or less a either breaking news type thread in GD. What's with this? Moved to Games Center as that is more appropriate for this subject.
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oooo i gotta check that out.

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Re: San Andreas Sex Scenes

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Rockstar: "We swear we didn't program it, elves did during publishing!"

bahahahah...

Weeeeeeeeeeee
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Old 12th July 2005, 00:45   #5
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Oh please everybody already knows about HotCoffee Mod, downloadable at almost all GTA SA moding sites.

Also the admin console has a button to uncencor it if you dont want to replace your main.scm and so screw up your savegames.

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they are sicking hilary clinton on rockstar about it ::true story::

shes already stirring up poo. already trying again to have games be controlled by the government. we should write letters hilery clinton seems like she could get it done. thats like a step or so away from suffering the fate of austrailia and germany.

it sucks how they never pay attention then one thing comes that gets any attention and these dusty old people jump on it like the last chair when the music stoped.

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i am getting tired of seeing what would be more or less a either breaking news type thread in GD. What's with this? Moved to Games Center as that is more appropriate for this subject.
I am getting tired of seeing people move anything game-related to the gaming thread that has much less readership, thus guaranteeing most people will never see it no matter how big it is. You seriously think that's why this subforum exists?
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Old 16th July 2005, 09:06   #8
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Also available in the PS2 version...
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It's somewhat hilarious that they pick this particular thing to be upset about, given the content of the ENTIRE GAME FROM BEGINNING TO END...just more proof they don't really know anything firsthand about Grand Theft Auto.
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Yea, you can kill all the cops you want but having sex?

Oh, the atrocities!
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Old 18th July 2005, 12:40   #11
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in all fairness, they got all upset about killing cops and the violence in general.. its just now they might have some chance at getting it bumped up to an ao(at which point some stores will stop selling it)

of course if that happened, rockstar would just recall the game and release a hot coffee free version, so this whole thing is pointless anyway..

the thing that bothers me though is how they keep saying this is fooling parents.. someone 15 years and older should be able to handle gta, and i doubt many who are younger could get a ride to the store and come up with $50 to buy the game without their parents knowing anything about it, unless someone buys it for the kid or they play it at a friends house, in which case its hardly the games fault

as for the game itself, the back of the case has people hanging out the window with guns, a guy with a flame thrower, and the description tells of a guy going home because his mom is murdered and he gets framed for homicide by two crooked cops.. on the front it has a girl licking her lip in a sexual manner and more guys with guns, the mature rating is fairly big and says "blood and gore, intense violence, strong language, strong sexual content, and use of drugs: Mature 17+" and on top of all of this, the game itself is named after a crime.. if that all wasnt enough to tell parents that they shouldn't get this game wasnt designed for children, then how is an ao rating going to help them?

that and how they keep saying its training kids to kill.. because we know how shooting someone in real life involves tapping one button to auto aim, another to switch to the target you want, and another to fire the gun, i suppose that after playing that game im perfectly qualified to fly a helicopter and drive a tank

i just wish they would bump the sims 2 up to an ao rating not only can you starve people, trap them inside a tiny room with no doors and watch them die, but after you install mods you can take away the blurry and watch people going to the bathroom and taking a shower.. with another mod you can allow children to have sex with adults, and you can make your sims nude all the time with naked skins.. maxis NEEDS to be shut down, their constant crusade to CORRUPT our children must be stopped!!

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RockStar Confirms Hot Coffee Not a Hack

'GTA' Game Rating Changed to Adults-Only

Looks like Take Two is recalling copies of the game already produced in order to fix the content in order to retain a M rating, but for now, the millions of copies on the market and in people's homes are Adults Only.

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Old 21st July 2005, 08:23   #13
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Oooooh, despite eveyone jumping on their back about it, they have just about managed to get GTA back into everyones limelight again, newspapers, news sites etc etc.

Congrats to Rockstar on another marketing campaign well done.
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Old 22nd July 2005, 10:10   #14
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Actually, this isn't a marketing campaign ... it was a stupid decision on R*'s part for creating the mini-game for the game and not removing it from the game. Since the PC and Xbox versions were just ports of the PS2 version, it is pretty much well known that if the PC version had it, so did the consoles. R* decided to decieve everyone, but they had thought that their mini-game would not be found (as the game needed some heavy modification for the PS2 version of the "mod"). R* screwed up, and now, they are going to be having to pay fines and a whole lot more (like lost money from sales or returns).

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i thought they said they wouldn't have to pay fines, its just that they would have to rerate it/edit it out(money lost on stopping the production of current game, going back and re-editing it, and then reproducing it, plus the month or so of lost sales)

and now a bunch of people i know who were waiting to buy it, went out and bought it in fear they wouldn't be able to get it for a few months

like someone said, the ironic part is if they had left the mini-game in(the main game), it wouldn't have been that big of a deal(apparently god of war had a much more graphic mini game that no one bitched about)

why would anyone return the game over this though?

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in the pc version it showed nudity and thrusting at the same time maybee genitals i think(sort of like the soft core they show on cinemax) the god of war game didnt show them doing the deed only the bed knocking over a vase.

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Old 22nd July 2005, 16:09   #17
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I still say it's a rockstar enginnered stunt, do you really think a multi million dollar operation like R* would simply forget they had left code like that in, knowing full well that someone somewhere would likely expose it at some point in the future.

Removed from the shelves it may be, but in all likely hood people are falling over themselves now to get hold of a unrated copy.

All publicity, bad or otherwise, is good publicity, look how the sales figures for manhunt went mental after stores in the UK started pulling it off the shelves after it was named in a murder case, I'm not saying this is in any way shape or form in the same league as that, but still the resultant bad publicity for man unt ensured that more units were shifted than normal.
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It should be obvious that this is a publicity stunt by the senators, etc, involved. Including a certain female presidential hopeful.

I'm pretty sure Rockstar doesn't like this that much.
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holy crap this country would seem that more dirty, evil, and harsh if she became president. but you know what... id vote for her.

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Old 26th July 2005, 11:49   #20
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The row rumbles on...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4717139.stm

Why are you guys in the US making such a big deal of it?, I've heard barely a whisper about it in the UK, other than the stories listed above , none of the regular moral crusaders in the UK have taken this up , even though they have always been quick to jump on the GTA bandwaggon in the past.

Are the scenes really that explicit?, they don't seem to be from the shots I've seen online?
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Old 26th July 2005, 20:31   #21
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Meh, hypocrites all of them. Making a fuss about a display of a completely natural act....

The only game that "shocks" me, or irritates me was a tank simulation some bunch of ignorant (American I think) assholes are making, setting you up as a Serbian tank driver in the "recent" war, killing Bosnians and Croats. Just what a nation that still hasn't grasped the fact that they were the bad guys, and that barely acknowledges, and refuses to apologise for even the most heinous crimes they did (Srebrenica, Vukovar, etc.) needs.
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Old 27th July 2005, 10:14   #22
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This whole fiasco over the Hot Coffee mod is ridiculous.

I bet Rockstar moves a ton of games before they are pulled from shelves.

It was really nice of everyone to blow this out of proportion. 99% of the people that have downloaded Hot Coffee wouldn't have even heard of it if it hadn't gotten so much press. Way for all that crap to backfire for Mrs.Clinton.

It's not like the sex scenes in GTA are any good anyway. Crappy models. NO GENITALS WHATSOEVER.... Crappy mod.

Anyone ever play Singles? That game got an M rating. It's DAMN explicit. The only reason it's not getting attention is because everyone knows about GTA. Singles didn't sell so well in the us.

I think I read somewhere that the FBI was starting an investigation. WOW. Don't they have something better to do?

What has the world come to. Wait a minute... Let me rephrase. What has the US come to. bleh

I think I'll go have some coffee now. Decaf.


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Old 27th July 2005, 13:19   #23
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I've seen Singles, and it's a lot more explicit than this in terms of sex, you could have the regular male-female sex, AND gay and lesbian sex, and noone minded it. Heck, there's even a Singles 2 now (crappier than the 1st game afaih).
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I think the point is that when it was rated, the ratings board wasn't aware of some of the content that shipped with the game that would affect its rating. Silliness in any case.

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I suggest everyone read this article. atleast someone gets it.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/...mment-opinionshttp://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/...mment-opinions

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Says it all realy.

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Yea, you can kill all the cops you want but having sex?

Oh, the atrocities!
can u have sex with the female cops?

i am not normal, no really.
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It's the parents' fucking fault. The game was rated 17A here in Canada. EB Games and other places used to ID whomever bought the game if they looked young enough - Therefore, the people with access to the game that are young enough to worry about having it - PARENTS, IT'S YOUR FUCKING FAULT, STOP THE RIGHTEOUS BITCHING AND LIVE WITH IT.

If your kid is retarded enough to take moral guidance from a video game, you've already failed at life and so has your kid. I'm so tired about parents bitching about this kind of shit - Kids are not as impressionable as tinfoil, and those that are have other serious problems, or are much too young to be playing a 17A rated game.

There are bad scenes in life, there's drugs, gangs and violence. To ignore that negative part of culture is to lie to yourself.
Plus - It's pixels. I'm sure you'd rather have me go murder 1500 pixels representing Chinese men in armour in Dynasty Warriors 5 than have me go to a crowded street in Shanghai with a glaive.

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The only games I use to play when I was younger were violent ones.

And i'm fine... well for the most part.

And Alida.. there's still gotta be places people under 17 can get any game they want. I know a few retailers over here have that policy, but it's as simple as heading over to Future Shop instead.
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Good lord. These people should take a look at the crime rate in Japan vs. the games/media they have over there.

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http://www.nomorehotcoffee.com/

*Snigger*

There just playing lip service to the morons trying to ban it.

Pearent installs the patch
Kid Uninstalls-reinstalls the game
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That LA Times article says it all. I think the parents are to blame if they purchase a game without checking it out beforehand.
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Here other interesting article>>>


GTA San Andreas, Sex Scenes are too much
By Benoît Leterme: 24 Jul 2005, 6:31 pm (GMT+1)

As we announced over a month ago, the popular new game from Rockstar: Grand Theft Auto San Andreas has some "SEX SCENES" somewhere hidden in the code. But not that hidden, since it is now well-known amongst gamers.

The game, the fourth edition already, has drawn quite some attention. Youngsters love it, elder people want to keep it as far as possible away from their infants.

Hi jacking cars, shooting people, running them over with vehicles, 'ho hunting and now recently "SEX/PORN SCENES" have made quite some people eager to get this game off the shelves. And it seems this hidden sex scene was scrapping the barrel a bit too much for Rockstar. Retailers and distributors will follow the requests and will take the game down.

read more: http://www.datafuse.net/page.php?news=577
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Here's the scoop. I have a modded Xbox with a copy of San Andreas on the hard drive. Long story short, I tried the Hot Coffee mod out for myself out of pure curiosity over why this thing was getting so much heat.

To be honest, the Hot Coffee mod is the worst piece of shite I've ever seen in my entire life. I've seen better pornography after accidently hitting the wrong buttons on my remote and seeing two seconds of scrambled Spice channel.

If you're desperate enough to interactive sex, you'd be better off putting lipstick on your right hand and calling it a day.
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these kinds of headlines only SELL more games

if the media would stop hyping this stuff they would stop being part of the problem

jeez!!!!
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And it goes on and on and on and on...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4720374.stm

Does anyone even still play SA?
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There was this article in PCGamer, I think Feb's issue, and it was talking about how Jack Thompson was sueing some comic company for making some jokes against him. Serves him right.
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I still play it, theres a good Bugatti Veyron model for it.

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There was this article in PCGamer, I think Feb's issue, and it was talking about how Jack Thompson was sueing some comic company for making some jokes against him. Serves him right.
That Company would be Penny Arcade.

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