Old 23rd September 2021, 00:50   #1
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Resolutions available - support for 8K?

Hello all,

Longtime Milkdrop user (since the beginning) - I really can't thank everyone who has contributed to this project over the years enough! It is incredible, mind-blowing, and truly a work of art. Thank you all!!!

I'm not sure what governs resolutions in the plugin - if it is video card or drivers or what - or if it is the plugin itself. I'm considering an 8K TV since they have come soooooo far down in price. No doubt they will continue to improve and drop in price too, but they are a bit tempting. If I have a computer capable of 8K and a display, can Milkdrop currently support it?

I currently run at 4k 60 fps with 80x60 (or maybe the one under it) mesh. Looks awesome
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Old 24th September 2021, 09:23   #2
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SaKSaK, 8k is four time the thoughtput as 4k, you may have to use the TV upscaler, or lower your expectations maybe ?? anyhows

while you consider buying another tv, perhaps, you shud look up NestDrop, I wont tell their story, but check their project out - it was 60 bucks, and as i like to tinker with visuals and equipment, it suited me to get the midnight edition ( well worth it for the features ) - think of it as a all the stuff you love about milkdrop, but tidy and with modern features like midi control, however if you like not having do do anything, you still might benefit from newly worked code eh ? I run three projectors dual monitors on a 6 or 7 year old computer

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Old 25th September 2021, 13:05   #3
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The smooth appearance of milkdrop is mostly owed to iterative blur operations, which are the opposite of sharpness. Milkdrop needs no sharpness, and 4K is already a waste. Of much more importance is the frame rate particularly for fast presets which may look significantly better at 60fps than at 30. When going for extreme resolution, you'd probably have to sacrifice the frame rate, as all these pixels need to be moved to the screen each frame. Don't do it.
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Old 25th September 2021, 18:29   #4
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NestDrop can output visuals at 8k 60fps and higher resolutions. The resolution of the NestDrop Spout video stream is only limited by how much GPU VRAM is available. If you max out the GPU resources then the frame rate will be reduced. Some presets are a heavier render on the GPU than others, so at 8k or higher resolutions it can depend on the preset being rendered. IMO a graphics card from the last 3ish years can render at 8k 60fps in real time.
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Old 9th October 2021, 20:27   #5
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The smooth appearance of milkdrop is mostly owed to iterative blur operations, which are the opposite of sharpness. Milkdrop needs no sharpness, and 4K is already a waste. Of much more importance is the frame rate particularly for fast presets which may look significantly better at 60fps than at 30. When going for extreme resolution, you'd probably have to sacrifice the frame rate, as all these pixels need to be moved to the screen each frame. Don't do it.
I agree with you about framerate, but disagree about resolution. Each resolution step-up produces significantly better-looking graphics in my humble opinion. I did quite a bit of testing with it. 4k looks amazing to me - way better than 1080p. So I imagine I would like 8K even better. I can't imagine stepping down the resolution from 4k for any reason whatsoever. 4K looks just incredible. But you make a good point about framerate being extremely important.
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Old 9th October 2021, 20:32   #6
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Thank you all for the feedback! I will check out NestDrop for sure. 60hz is the max for 8k right now I think. I've never tried Milkdrop higher than that anyhow - at least not since I started using LCDs.
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Old 11th October 2021, 20:21   #7
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Well I can't argue with you on that because I have never seen milkdrop at more than 1280x1024. But definitely most milkdrop presets use the blur function, and I cannot see how a higher resolution could be any benefit.
Maybe it is rather screen size that creates that impression. When comparing resolutions, make sure to keep a proportional distance to the screen. When watching or making presets, I used to sit really close to the screen; the immersion is way better when the visual fills out a large part of the field of vision.
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