Old 24th April 2008, 18:03   #1
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Weird Looking FPS Readings On Playback Of x264/AAC Videos

Hi everyone:

Is it just me or has anyone else seen FPS readings that look something like 7.01324 in the readout on Winamp during playback of x264/AAC encoded videos?

If it's just me, I'll post a screenshot in reply as to what I'm referring to.

I have the latest version of Winamp (Version 5.531), the x264 stuff (Along with VP6.2 as well) from wildex99 and the NSVtools repack from Ken too, so I should be okay there.

If needed, I'll also post in a seperate post my profile settings within NSVATE in case something in there might be triggering such strange FPS readings too.

Anyhow, suggestions on what might be triggering this would be appreciated so that I can take action if needed.

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Old 24th April 2008, 18:17   #2
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Where did you read this fps? I can't remember ever seeing a number like that. Either there is something wrong with your encoding settings or something wrong with the video that was encoded. Is it like this on every video, or just one? You sure the video doesn't actually HAVE that framerate? =P

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Old 24th April 2008, 18:41   #3
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Hi everyone:
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Where did you read this fps? I can't remember ever seeing a number like that. Either there is something wrong with your encoding settings or something wrong with the video that was encoded. Is it like this on every video, or just one? You sure the video doesn't actually HAVE that framerate? =P
Well the thing is I'm really not quote sure just what's wrong. But the attachment will indicate what Winamp is reading.

Now mind you, while you can't actually see the still video capture itself (For obvious reasons), there IS video playing as I can see it.

But it's that strange readout below the screen that has me bamboozled as I too have never seen anything like that before either.

I'll post screenshots of my encoder settings elsewhere and use the IMG command to link to them since this board doesn't take multiple attachments.
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oh, and it's wildex999, not wildex99
Well I got the gist of your name anyway

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Old 24th April 2008, 18:47   #4
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Well, the settings looks normal =/ you set 15 fps.
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Old 24th April 2008, 18:49   #5
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I believe h264 is not exactly framebased, and more vector based and allows variable frame rate.
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Old 24th April 2008, 18:51   #6
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Now, when did it become that? >_> I have always seen normal framerates, and I have used X264 more than most on this forum.
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Old 24th April 2008, 18:59   #7
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Hi everyone:

Here are my NSVATE settings...


Large versions can be found here, here & here (Note the first one will run off the page if you use a 1024x768 monitor setting. Sorry about that).

Anyhow...Let's see what you can make of that.

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Old 24th April 2008, 19:03   #8
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Well, after burning my eyes looking at the small text, I'd say it looks like it should. I'd say that Winamp is reporting wrongly or something =/ Is the weird framerate affecting the actual drawrate of the video?
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Old 24th April 2008, 19:30   #9
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Hi everyone:
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Well, after burning my eyes looking at the small text, I'd say it looks like it should.
Try looking at the near-full-screen larger versions.
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I'd say that Winamp is reporting wrongly or something =/
That may be true.
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Is the weird framerate affecting the actual drawrate of the video?
Well not really NOW. But BEFORE I go to put these videos online, I'm gonna have to know the answer to this so I know how to configure the server so I don't get banned from the listings.

Know what I mean?

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Old 24th April 2008, 19:34   #10
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Could you encode a small video with this problem, and upload it so I could take a look?
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Old 24th April 2008, 23:14   #11
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Hi everyone:

No problem.

I have uploaded some short :30 to :60 second samples I pulled off the Internet Archive and their classic TV ads section. They are as follows...

Sample 1
Sample 2
Sample 3
Sample 4
Sample 5

That said, I **CANNOT** stress the following enough..

***DOWNLOAD THE THESE FILES - DO NOT STREAM THEM UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES*** (I value the free space I get there as a licensed Ham Radio Operator which is what you have to be in order to get a site there. Plus it's also taxing on their system as well).

Hope this helps things a little....

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yeah, I know, I've been trying to recruit you into the flash arena where you would become a hero overnight!

I guess really I'm thinking of full on mp4 or some other container....
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Old 25th April 2008, 01:46   #13
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Hi everyone:

Hmm....Why do I get the feeling I'm being DRAFTED??? *LOL!*

Seriously, have you ever heard of BlogTV?? They do some pretty cool stuff over there.

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Old 25th April 2008, 02:28   #14
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Hi everyone::

I think I've figured out the whole mess....

One section is the file length in time while the other is the bitrate. It just so happens to be that both are scrunched so close together that it's sometimes hard to tell them apart.

But in holding the phone, I could be wrong on that.

I'll just have to keep following this latest batch as I am currently encoding.

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Old 25th April 2008, 05:11   #15
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Yeah, I see that now, the bitrate and time is put together to one big number, that's gotta be something that has happened in the later Winamp versions, because I would have noticed it before =/
Anyway, I think it's safe to stream those files, nothing seems wrong with them.
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Old 25th April 2008, 20:59   #16
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Hi everyone:

Yeah you're right about the big number bug. That is something Nullsoft HAS to fix in the next release.

As for the videos themselves...They all range anywhere from 100-128 Kbps. with the settings I currently have. If my DSL line is as lightening fast as the provider (Qwest) claims it is, I shouldn't have much trouble streaming these.

But to be sure, I'll run a series of tests, even if it means going to every bandwidth speed test on the Internet.

That said, it would be nice to get some hosting as soon as possible (But that is out of the question for me at the moment due to offline RL issues which unfortunately have higher priority).

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