Old 17th April 2003, 14:23   #1
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What to do with a dead moniter?

I have a dead 17" moniter sitting in the corner of my room and I have no idea what to do with it. I'm trying to think of something constructive, I'm already using the power cord on a moniter I've borrowed till I can get a new one, and I've taken the plastic swivel base off of it incase I have a use for it sometime. The only idea I have so far is selling on an auction site under the description "don't know if it works".

What do you think?

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Old 17th April 2003, 14:27   #2
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Fish bowl, of course

But really, maybe you could take out all the parts and glue them on your computer case or your clock or something fun like that heh.

Are there any computer stores near you that take old items that might not work and resell them? Or tinker with them until they work?
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Old 17th April 2003, 14:28   #3
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trash it.

Dont mess with the inside of it. It could still haev a heafty charge left. Touch the wrong spot, you'll be feeling funny for a week.

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Old 17th April 2003, 14:28   #4
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Old 17th April 2003, 14:29   #5
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Yeah, take it the way of the printer in Office Space
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Old 17th April 2003, 14:29   #6
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Take the inards out, fill up any holes with epoxy resin,cut a hole in the top ,making some kind of hinge flap type thing, stick a sheet of perspex over where the monitor glass was, again using your ever usefull epoxy resin, fill it with water and use it as a novelty fish tank.

Remember to cut any mains cables off to avoid any water/electric/dead fish scenarios.

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Old 17th April 2003, 14:31   #7
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Whatever you do, be very careful if you do pull it apart. The capacitors of a crt monitor can hold a potentially life threatening charge for a long time.
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Old 17th April 2003, 14:33   #8
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Whatever you do, be very careful if you do pull it apart. The capacitors of a crt monitor can hold a potentially life threatening charge for a long time.
Yeah, best way to check they are ok is to wet your finger and rub the top of them, either that or jam a screwdriver into them
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Whatever you do, be very careful if you do pull it apart. The capacitors of a crt monitor can hold a potentially life threatening charge for a long time.
25,000 volts for a 17" monitor.

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Old 17th April 2003, 14:36   #10
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it is the amps that kill, not the volts
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Old 17th April 2003, 14:46   #11
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Well, I'm happy I didn't pull it apart earlier on like I was going to.

I like the fish tank idea, but sadly I have no money. It sounds like it might be safest to try and resell it anyway.


If volts don't kill, why do warnings always come in volts?

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Old 17th April 2003, 14:49   #12
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Because the number for volts is always higher.

What sounds scarier:

DANGER 50,000 volts
DANGER 30 amps

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Old 17th April 2003, 14:50   #13
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If volts don't kill, why do warnings always come in volts?
Hmmm, good question, but i know it is not the volts, because in highschool my physic teacher had a vandagraff (sp) generator that ran at 25,000 volts, and we shocked people and they didnt die because the amps were very very low.
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Old 17th April 2003, 14:59   #14
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I don't know if this is right or even makes any sense, but if we compare eletricity to waves would not volt be compareable to frequency? and amps to amplitude? Sooo... volts is how fast it travels and amps is how big it is. Meaning the higher the amps the wider the path though your body the electrity takes and the more tissue it damages.

As I said, don't know if that makes sense, I sorta 'pulled it outta my arse' so to speak.

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Old 17th April 2003, 15:01   #15
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sounds about right to me
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Old 17th April 2003, 15:02   #16
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How long's a "long time"?
I mean, how long would you have to leave it for it to be safe?

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Also, this whole amps/volts thing. I don't think that it's one kills and the other doesn't.
They're both telling you how much electricity is flowing. Like, the width of a river and the speed of the water in it. It just has to be above a certain amount to be dangerous, it doesn't matter how it's made up.

'course, I'm taking an educated guess. (Jeeze, I really should know this stuff, it's gonna be on my exams.)
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Old 17th April 2003, 15:05   #17
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Capacitors are cool.

Anyway, toss the junker away. Its not worth keeping, other than the power cable and quite possibly the monitor cable.

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Old 17th April 2003, 15:11   #18
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I can't get the moniter cable out without taking it apart, which I don't think I'll do now.

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@Lucid: True. If I remember correctly, amps is like the speed of a river and volts is how much it carries, does that sound right?

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Old 17th April 2003, 15:15   #19
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Yeah, best way to check they are ok is to wet your finger and rub the top of them, either that or jam a screwdriver into them
It also helps if your standing on wet ground with bare feet, or maybe in a tub full of water.
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Old 17th April 2003, 15:18   #20
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Why not try selling it to a recycle shop or pawn shop, or try to get it repaired? It could just be the VGA cable that's busted.

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Old 17th April 2003, 15:24   #21
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I don't think it's the cable, it had been blacking out and flickering for awhile, and when it went it went with a loud crack fizzle pop from inside it. Plus, when plugged into the wall but not the computer it should be able to be turned off at the button, but when I try it just keeps blinking still which suggests to me that it's completely fried.

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Old 17th April 2003, 15:33   #22
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did it release the magic smoke? if you let the smoke escape, it will never run again

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Old 17th April 2003, 15:33   #23
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it is the amps that kill, not the volts
http://www.dansdata.com/gz013.htm <--- Cool page explaining it all.

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He thought that it wasn't the volts that killed you, it was the amps.

Well, that's true. As long as there's no significant current flowing through you, you're safe. You can stand there all day with one hand pulling sparks from the dome of an electrostatic generator and the other hand grasping a cold water pipe. You may do a fair bit of twitching and end up with a lot of little spark-punctures in the end of your finger, but you won't die.

If, on the other hand, you cut the fence-wire around a major suburban power substation and then charge in and swing a crowbar at anything that's sitting on a four foot stack of insulators, your life will become exceedingly nasty, brutish and short.

This is because current and voltage are, usually, connected. More volts into a given resistance means more current. And a substation bus bar has no trouble delivering really impressive amounts of current to someone who's decided to pursue a career as a ground stake.
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Hmmm... a career as a ground stake. I wonder what knid of a salary they get?
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you could make a Jacob's Ladder out of it like the Afrotech one.
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BLOW IT UP! Pack the sucker with large amounts of explosives, take it out to some remote spot and light it up! Or... take a bat to it like the dudes in Office Space did with the prniter. Either way, videotape it or take pictures and upload.

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it is the amps that kill, not the volts
True, only takes 0.2 amps to kill a person, but when you have 25,000 volts going through you, that can kill too.

I = V/R

Depending on your body's resistance (which can change, depending on surrounding conditions), 25,000 volts can be plenty.

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CraigF: No smoke that I saw, you think maybe it could be fixed?

Atmo: Thats a very informative website; Why can I never find anything like that?

m0e: A one of payment that would at least cover the funeral?

psyfive: I feel like living.

Ian: Sounds like fun but I don't have access to explosives.

SSJ4: 0.2 amps can kill? whoa.

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CraigF: No smoke that I saw, you think maybe it could be fixed?
If the magic smoke doesnt escape it can always be fixed.

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Atmo: Thats a very informative website; Why can I never find anything like that?
You're not looking hard enough.

Actually, dan from dansdata.com writes a column in a pc magazine here in aus (atomic - link's in my sig). If i hadnt started reading it i probably wouldnt have stumbled across his site.
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its not gonna cause any damage to you unnless its still plugged into a wall.

umm, if i were you I would.... uh...

sell it to a blind person!

or you could just recycle it.
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You could always pay me to fiddle with it...but then again, I'm not cheap!
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