Old 25th May 2006, 20:50   #1
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Plagiarism? Petty versus RHCPs?

This one might go in breaking news, or music discussion, I dunno. But I heard this analysis and it's pretty convincing-- the Red Hot Chili Peppers almost certainly drew hard and long from Tom Petty's hit circa 1993. Listen for yourself.

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Old 26th May 2006, 02:07   #2
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The Tom Petty clips sound sped up.
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Old 26th May 2006, 03:58   #3
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Wow what a bad news for this band.
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Old 26th May 2006, 04:19   #4
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so whats new? bands have been making covers since well... ever

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Old 26th May 2006, 04:31   #5
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Freakishly similar

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Old 26th May 2006, 10:06   #6
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play one note 'A' - how many bands, singers balh blah balh have played that note? Are they all copying? plagarising?

Play three A, D, E - in that order? I can take a truck load of tracks and find similarities across wide ranging genres..

Music plagarism is just bollox imo...


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Old 26th May 2006, 10:11   #7
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It's only those bits of the songs they're playing that sound similar. The rest of the song is totally different.
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Old 26th May 2006, 11:10   #8
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music is always going to contain plagurism because there are limitations on the amount of note combinations that sound good, so plagiriasm after time is gonig to be pretty commonplace

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Old 26th May 2006, 12:34   #9
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Old 26th May 2006, 14:34   #11
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there are limitations on the amount of note combinations that sound good
and the Red Hot Chili Peppers haven't found any of them.
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there are limitations on the amount of note combinations that sound good
and the Red Hot Chili Peppers haven't found any of them.

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Am, G, Dm

Holy shit! JESUS. THAT'S ONLY BEEN USED IN ONE SONG, EVER!

Oops, wait, the Tom Petty song is Am, G, D ...

The "damning evidence" is not horribly weak (they do sound similar), but it's nowhere near "damning evidence".

*tries to find the Mp3 that was really damning evidence of another song pair*

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heh, listen to Amber's Sexual and then listen to T-pop star CoCo's Di Da Di

now that's a rip-off
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sampling is different.

but a chorus of "di da di" vs a chorus of "li da di" I'd say that's a rip off.
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Anthony Kiedis used to accuse Mike Patton of ripping him off, so I guess this is "what goes around".

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and the Red Hot Chili Peppers haven't found any of them.
RHCP's earlier stuff is really good, I reckon. They've been putting out some generic rubbish recently though.

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RHCP's earlier stuff is really good, I reckon. They've been putting out some generic rubbish recently though.
Couldn't agree more. I miss the Flea solos and BloodSugarSexMagic album (or anything released before).

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Guitar rifts are just that, you'd probably find a lot of songs that use the same rifts, especially with blues. If you can copyright a rift, then we are doomed. Petty probably stole it from someone else.
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