Old 4th December 2007, 20:53   #41
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Are we sure this is a beta? I feel like I should be posting bugs and stuff, but umm...

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Old 4th December 2007, 21:53   #42
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Did you maybe cancel the Setup section at the end of the installer?
You need to run Setup with the installation, otherwise the Default Programs registry entries won't be created.
This is because Vista will only allow 'elevated' processes to write to the HKLM section of the registry. The installer/setup is elevated when Vista prompts you to confirm the action and allow it to run.

If you did run Setup as part of the installation, and clicked Next -> Next -> Finish, then try running the installer again, but this time when the Setup section appears at the end, try unchecking/checking a couple of extensions on the File Associations page.

It all works perfectly fine for me anyway, heh

http://stashbox.org/56957/Vista_Default_Programs.jpg
http://stashbox.org/56960/Vista_Default_Programs2.jpg
http://stashbox.org/56962/Vista_Default_Programs3.jpg

Or maybe you've disabled the User Account Control thing, and therefore you don't get prompted and the Winamp installer is never elevated - in which case it won't be able to write to the registry (yes, Vista sucks, heh).
The sad fact is, that I did run the installer normally (and Vista with UAC on, no tweaks or anything), it gets automatically elevated (like it should be), I finish the installation (with [X] Run Winamp (setup) after installation checked), run the "Setup skin and associations", try to uncheck / check a few associations, finish the installation and boom... still not there. I have a bunch of plugins configured very precisesly, so I wouldn't really want to uninstall and do a fresh installation, but that might be the only option here, sadly).

Edit: Well, I did a fresh installation (uninstalled winamp, deleted files from Program Files\Winamp and run the beta installer again) but the results are the same.

Edit 2: Is there any way to add that thing manually? I know the risks involved when messing around with registry but I still want this to work so bad.

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Old 4th December 2007, 22:31   #43
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@daimaah

Did you try Soulstace's solution?

Right-click the installer and select "Run as administrator",
do the installation & setup thing,
and if that still doesn't fix it...
close Winamp, right-click the Winamp shortcut or winamp.exe itself
and select "Run as administrator".

Winamp -> Prefs -> File Types should then work for associating extensions.

By the way, there was no need to do a clean install (at least not for this issue), heh.
Though if you'd attached your List of Plugins, we could've just told you to temporarily disable any 3rd-party plugins (by moving the relevant DLL files out of the Winamp\Plugins folder).
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No skippy video on Vista here.
Bad/old video drivers or DirectShow splitters/filters/codecs maybe?
I'm still having the same issues described in these threads:

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....ht=video+Vista
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....ht=video+Vista

Vista Aero on (works fine when aero's off), only seems to skip at large resolutions (1280x1024+), latest nvidia drivers for 7600GT (163.75), latest codecs (ffdshow), only happens in Winamp (not Media Player Classic or WMP11).
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Did you try Soulstace's solution?

etc etc.
Well, did that and it's still the same. Tried to run winamp as administrator too, didn't make any difference. Here's the list of plugins (The OS is reported incorrectly, it's supposed to be Vista Home Premium 32-bit)

[EDIT --> DJ Egg]
Plugin List removed (List Of Plugins should be attached, not posted)


Edit: Well, first I thought that the incorrect OS reporting was because of bad One for Nunz plugin support but it turns out that Winamp.exe had for some reason been tagged to run in XP SP2 compatibility mode. Changed it back to normal, ran the installer and setup again and voilá, it finally works
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Add Encoded column to the ML

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Winamp 5.51 Beta, Build 1741

* New: [ml_local] BPM column
Thank you!

Just looking for an "Encoded" column in the ML now.
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Old 5th December 2007, 21:08   #47
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Hi !

a silent install of Winamp using the /S switch does not create the settings properly in the %APPDATA% directory. Instead the settings are created in the %PROGRAMFILES%\Winamp directory. Therefore the player does not properly work in Vista (settings not saved etc.)

If the player is installed manually, everything is fine and the settings are saved in the userprofile.

Could you please change that behaviour for the silent installation ?

Is there a way to move the settings from the programdir to the userprofile after an installation ? Did not find any setting in the registry or winamp.ini ?

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Not sure if this is a bug or what but when using the Bento Skin when I click to bring up the media library from being minimized it hangs for about 5 seconds. I did a clean install and even went back to 5.5 to make sure it wasn't my computer.

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Old 6th December 2007, 08:57   #49
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Can I have both 5.51 beta and 5.5 stable installed?

Can I keep my 5.5 stable and install 5.51 beta onto a parallell directory in case I need to go back to 5.5?

Or is 5.51 so stable that I need to? I just run your marvelous new Bento as is with very few tweakings and not many plugins. I love you cover art view!

What do you mean with clean install? Is that just to uninsatll and remove all executables but keeping the ini-file and the database? Where by the way is the database kept?

Do I need to do a clean install of 5.51?
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hy, is posibile to add album highlight o the playlist........is a plugin for that but make and generate loot off errors.......is posibile?
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Old 6th December 2007, 10:44   #51
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hy, is posibile to add album highlight o the playlist........is a plugin for that but make and generate loot off errors.......is posibile?
Did you try dro's Playlist separator plugin? If you have your albums in separate folders it can do kind of what you're after.
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....0&pagenumber=9
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Old 6th December 2007, 10:55   #52
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PutteFnatt>> 5.51 is mostly focused at fixes and improvements from 5.5 and is more stable indeed.

You don't have to do a clean install to install 5.51 but if you have a lot of old stuff in your winamp dir and wanna clean it up a bit you could follow this excellent guide:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....29#post1212729
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Old 6th December 2007, 15:26   #53
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@PutteFnatt
You can just install 5.51 beta straight on top of 5.5 if you wish.
However, if you experience any crashes/freeze-ups/etc, then a bug report will only be valid if you can confirm that the problem still occurs after doing a clean install, with no 3rd-party plugins.

Also note that this beta is probably more stable than v5.5 ;-)


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I don't understand. What is the exact method of reproduction?
Also, please see the first post for info required when reporting problems/bugs
(especially the bold red text) ;-)


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The silent install issue will be looked into. Thanks.

The manual method of switching from a separate to shared setup is a bit painstaking.
You have to manually create a paths.ini file in the root Winamp installation dir,
and then move/copy all the settings files to the specified dir.

The default paths.ini looks like this:

[Winamp]
inidir={26}\Winamp

which basically tells Winamp that the settings folder is:
%AppData%\Winamp

%AppData%\Winamp under Win2k/XP resolves to:
C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data\Winamp

%AppData%\Winamp under Vista resolves to:
c:\users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Winamp

The files to move/copy are:

Winamp root folder:
winamp.ini
studio.xnf
winamp.pic
winamp.q1
winamp.m3u8
winamp.m3u *

Winamp\Plugins folder:
gen_ml.ini
milk2.ini
feedback.ini (beta builds only)
The entire "ml" subfolder
Gracenote\cddb.db, elists.db, cddbplm.pdb/idx/gcf.

Note that some of those files won't already exist on clean installs.

* keep a copy of this in the %ProgramFiles%\Winamp folder, for 3rd-party compatibility reasons.

Yeah, not a pretty solution, heh.
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Hi DJ Egg,

thanks for your detailed answer. Got it working with the paths.ini.

Would be nice if the silent_install would work properly in the next final version !

Keep up the good work !
Bye,
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Old 6th December 2007, 20:58   #55
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In the Bento skin, in the file info window. The "Title" text gets overwritten if the title is too long or if it has Unicode letters (japanese kanji).

Not so sure about the length, it seems to happen with some shorter titles as well.
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Old 6th December 2007, 21:45   #56
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interesting bug i didn't notice until a day or two ago.

after installing 5.5+, MP3s no longer show data when checking properties in explorer, WAVs either (possibly any RIFF based sound format playable in winamp now). BTW, the windows theme in use is an OSX tiger skin w/a hacked uxtheme.dll, but that's irrelevant cuz it was working w/5.35.
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@Neologix

I was unable to reproduce that issue. Are you sure it is not the skin? I can see all of the information in properties under windows.

However, that did help me to find a different bug.
I ripped a CD with winamp to test the report above.
I did ALT+3 on the file and and in the basic info tab did autotag
The changes from the autotag erased the genre
I hit O.K.
when you choose ALT+3 again, the genre is back

Tried the steps above again and before I hit OK I went to the ID3 ver2 tab and the Genre is still there.
Looks like it did not change the ID3 ver2 tag.

This seems strange because those steps work fine on other files.
Please test and tell me if you can reproduce.
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Old 6th December 2007, 22:10   #58
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Media tab?
What OS?
I don't see any Media tab with any of Win2k, XP or Vista.
Is it maybe added by some external 3rd-party shell extension?
I have a Details tab in Properties on Vista, and a Summary tab in WinXP, but not a Media tab.
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Boo.. Skippy video in Vista isn't fixed Any ETA on that one?

Great work on the rest of the stuff! The Bento interface feels much snappier (especially when expanding/collapsing windowshade). Love it!
I think the video renderer is the problem in vista(with aero enabled). matroska at 720p+ runs slow without hardware overlay nomatter what codecs you are using. xvid is not quite as bad but its noticeable when compared to WMP.

i've tried
ffdshow
ffdshow tryouts
coreavc

this is not a bug report as its not a bug with winamp as its fine on any other OS and I've only bothered trying 64bit windows as I have too much ram for 32bit windows.

one thing that does piss me off with winamp is the "resize video to fit window" is also something that shouldn't be checked by default. everytime I do a fresh install and load a HD video winamp resizes itself out of the screen.
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I ripped a CD with winamp to test the report above.
I did ALT+3 on the file and and in the basic info tab did autotag
The changes from the autotag erased the genre
I hit O.K.
when you choose ALT+3 again, the genre is back

Tried the steps above again and before I hit OK I went to the ID3 ver2 tab and the Genre is still there.
Looks like it did not change the ID3 ver2 tag.

This seems strange because those steps work fine on other files.
Please test and tell me if you can reproduce.
Just an update on this issue. I tried ripping a couple of different CDs in different formats. (MP3, FLAC, ogg) and the same thing happens. Has anyone else seen this?
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I've noticed with the new EQ, music sounds a lot clearer. Verses the usual Winamp EQ which sounds fuller but muffles the high end a bit(I guess "softer" is a better term).

Obviously the choice will be up to personal taste. But I'm liking the new EQ very much so far.
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I think the video renderer is the problem in vista(with aero enabled). matroska at 720p+ runs slow without hardware overlay nomatter what codecs you are using. xvid is not quite as bad but its noticeable when compared to WMP.

i've tried
ffdshow
ffdshow tryouts
coreavc

this is not a bug report as its not a bug with winamp as its fine on any other OS and I've only bothered trying 64bit windows as I have too much ram for 32bit windows.

one thing that does piss me off with winamp is the "resize video to fit window" is also something that shouldn't be checked by default. everytime I do a fresh install and load a HD video winamp resizes itself out of the screen.
whatever the problem is, it's been known for a about a year and a half ever since the first public beta of vista came out. really hoped to see some progress made on this by now.
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I was tempted to post now, as I've been using this beta since it was released, but after the initial problems were sorted out (look at the first few posts in this thread), now its running quite smooth, no bug till now! Its really stable!

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As for choppy video, Winamp can't fix a slow computer when Areo is killing it's resources already.

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As for choppy video, Winamp can't fix a slow computer when Areo is killing it's resources already.
Its not choppy.. videos with 720p is running in slowmotion, its starting at virtually zero fps than starts counting upwards.. about 30 sec in the file its at about 7 fps.. but if go forward a bit in the file it goes back to 0.3 fps or something.

CPU AMD 6000+
4 Gb RAM
Nvidia 8800 GTS 640 MB


Its not the computer thats the problem these files runs just fine on videolan (vlc).
Tested with both 5.5 and a clean install of 5.51 B1741
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Old 7th December 2007, 20:01   #66
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Winamp in_mp3 has options to choose what IDs are going to be saved :

write ID3v1
write ID3v2

I usually deactivate ID3v1, but the new "file info", is saving ID v2 without deleting ID v1 like the previous releases before WA 5.5 used to be,
this is a problem because the "basic info tab" reads both.

if ID3 v1 is deactivated, the file info is unable to delete it when I uncheck "Include ID3v1 tag in file" to manually delete it, but it'll delete it if I have both options activated, id 1 and id 2.

I finding the new equalizer so good, especially the new ISO

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Old 7th December 2007, 20:16   #67
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As for choppy video, Winamp can't fix a slow computer when Areo is killing it's resources already.
Yeah mine's not slow either - Athlon 64 X2 5600+, 2 GB RAM

I don't understand how it can be claimed that this is not a Winamp problem. I have yet to see this behaviour in any other video player.
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gen_ff:

Don't know if this is a bug or made on purpose. Imagine the following situation: you have a script in a group that implements a xuiobject and try to add the following code to it:
PHP Code:
System.onScriptLoaded(){
  
ScriptGroup getScriptGroup();
  
ScriptGroup.setXmlParam(...);

...Winamp crashes, this problem doesn't exist in Winamp 5.5 Final, Don't know about prior versions.

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As for choppy video, Winamp can't fix a slow computer when Areo is killing it's resources already.
are you serious you and DJEgg arn't experiencing this problem? its pretty bad

i'm 99% sure its the renderer. we don't need to support a renderer for windows 95 and it doesn't work properly with aero glass).

i'm guessing that you need a custom vmr-9 (renderless to prevent tearing) or better for vista at the moment.

i'm hoping vista sp1 fixes this issue because it really does suck.

but i'm not gonna bet money on them fixing anything, this is microsoft.

EVR requires .net framework 3.0 so that sucks aswell.

maybe winamp can use the openGL renderer from milkdrop to display video aswell?

i stopped using winamp for video's in vista and forgot about this untill now.
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Old 8th December 2007, 02:28   #71
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-Winamp disappears from taskbar on reopening if previously closed in a minimized state with Winamp Modern skin active

Just thought I would mention that this is happening for me with classic skin....anyone else?

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Old 8th December 2007, 04:19   #72
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Well, I hardly use the Vista machine. Vista sucks so badly that I still use the WinXP machine as my main pc.

I've only got a few video files on the vista machine...
a mixture of WMV, AVI (DivX), MP4 (L1 Simple Profile/LC-AAC) and MPEG-1, and they all play fine, at any size (normal, custom, maximized, fullscreen).

I don't have any hi-res vids or MKV files etc on there though....

It's just a lowly P4 @ 3GHz, 1Gb ram,
some onboard 256mb Intel 82945G graphics chip, and onboard Intel/Soundmax audio,
Vista Ultimate Edition w/ Aero enabled,
latest FFDShow (SSE version) from free-codecs.com,
video_gdiplus=1 set in winamp.ini (default value = 0),
with 'allow h/w accel & yv12 overlays' & 'sync to screen refresh rate' all checkmarked in: Winamp > Prefs > Video...

and I'm not having any problems with video playback whatsoever.


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Yes. It's listed under Known Bugs in the first post,
and with a red asterisk next to it too.
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Old 8th December 2007, 04:23   #73
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Just tried the 5.51 beta tonight, to see if the 2 quirks I've seen in Winamp were fixed. Nope

Quirk (bug?) 1:

1. Install over 5.5, using the beta pro download and full install options.

2. Point Winamp to My Music (over 100,000 songs) and wait a few hours for it to load up.

3. Once the library is loaded up, click on the Title column to sort by Title.

4. Then, click on Artist to sort the Titles by Artist. Here's the kicker. When you click on Artist to sort by artist, it *UNsorts* the titles you just sorted with the previous click!

Expected behaviour: I'd expect that when you click on a column header to sort that column, it would would leave the other columns sorted as they were.

FWIW, I saw something in the beta release notes about a Sort Order option addition (or fix), but couldn't find anywhere in the program to set that.

Quirk (bug?) 2:

1. Install Winamp 5.51 over 5.5, using the beta pro version and the Full install option.

2. Point Winamp to My Music and wait a few hours to load up the 100,000+ file library.

3. Once loaded, Click on the Title column header to sort by song title.

4. Now, scroll down about 20,000 songs or so, or till you find some duplicate titles.

5. Double-click on the duplicate songs to listen and be sure that they are, in fact, duplicates.

6. When you conclude that they are the same, pick one to delete, and choose to delete it from the computer as well.

7. Once you click OK to this, the song goes away, but so does your library, which goes blank with the word "scanning" (or possibly "rescanning" - going from memory here) in the upper left of the library window.

8. When the library comes back, it's no longer where you were in the list, BUT waaay back at the very top of the list, where you started!

Expected behaviour: I'd expect that deleting an entry from the library would just delete the entry and leave me at the same spot I was at, NOT clear back at the top of the library.
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Egg,
I was just pointing out that it also does it with classic skins...its seems to infer that its a mod skin prob..."-Winamp disappears from taskbar on reopening if previously closed in a minimized state with Winamp Modern skin active *"

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Old 8th December 2007, 04:32   #75
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Quirk #1 is expected behaviour.
It just sorts by whatever column you click.
Anything beyond that is a feature request, not a bug.

Quirk #2 shouldn't be happening at all.
There shouldn't be any duplicates (exact same path & filename) in the local mldb.

There was a bug in one of the 5.3x releases which allowed duplicates, but
1) it was fixed in 5.34/5, via the built-in re-indexer
2) it will not happen on clean installs of 5.5x

You could try closing Winamp and setting:
reindex_534f=0
in %WinampIniDir%\plugins\gen_ml.ini

The re-indexer will kick in when you next start Winamp
and should remove any duplicate items in the process.

I certainly can't reproduce the problem anyway.
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Ahh, right.. crap!

No, I didn't know that it also happened with Classic skins.
It's fixed internally (though no-one's got the fix yet, not even the internal beta testers - which is another story).

Hmm, I guess that's a bit of a showstopper then, heh.

To fix it, kill winamp.exe process in Task Manager
and change this setting in %WinampIniDir%\winamp.ini

minimized=0

(instead of =1)

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Where %WinampIniDir% = either %ProgramFiles%\Winamp
or %AppData%\Winamp

(sorry, I can't be precise unless you attach your List Of Plugins (my_plugins_list.txt), though you can generate the file yourself and it tells you where the winamp.ini path is)
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found it in Doc settings in c drive but still same after the mod...

here is some of the area after the change...
plscrollsize=1
plmw2xscroll=1
inet_mode=0
ospb=0
embedwnd_freesize=1
no_visseh=0
newverchk=0
newverchk3=0
prefs_last_page=40
autoload_eq=0
playlist_recyclebin=1
use_eq=0
eq_ws=0
wx=1005
wy=42
minimized=0
aot=0
shuffle=1
repeat=1
volume=255
pan=0
easymove=1
dsize=0
timeleftmode=0
autoscrollname=0
sa=1
safire=4
saref=2



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To fix the problem all I do is start winamp again whilst the first wa is running and it clears back to normal.

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Old 8th December 2007, 07:29   #78
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gen_ff:

Don't know if this is a bug or made on purpose. Imagine the following situation: you have a script in a group that implements a xuiobject and try to add the following code to it:
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System.onScriptLoaded(){
  
ScriptGroup getScriptGroup();
  
ScriptGroup.setXmlParam(...);

...Winamp crashes, this problem doesn't exist in Winamp 5.5 Final, Don't know about prior versions.
i will definitly look at this after my cs-exam today.
which param do you pass with the function?

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Well, I hardly use the Vista machine. Vista sucks so badly that I still use the WinXP machine as my main pc.

I've only got a few video files on the vista machine...
a mixture of WMV, AVI (DivX), MP4 (L1 Simple Profile/LC-AAC) and MPEG-1, and they all play fine, at any size (normal, custom, maximized, fullscreen).

I don't have any hi-res vids or MKV files etc on there though....

It's just a lowly P4 @ 3GHz, 1Gb ram, some onboard 256mb Intel 82945G graphics chip, and onboard Intel/Soundmax audio, with latest ffdshow sse, and video_gdiplus=1 set in winamp.ini (default value = 0), with 'allow h/w accel & yv12 overlays' & 'sync to screen refresh rate' checkmarked in Winamp > Prefs > Video...

and I'm not having any problems with video playback whatsoever.
are you using aero glass theme(home premium or ultimate) or aero basic(the business and home basic versions).

only aero glass has the problem(this is the one where you can see through the borders on all the windows) . i can see it stutter with all video types, mkv and xvid are the worst, it tears and stutters badly, its so bad you can't use winamp as a video player.

amd x2 3800+ - 2 gig ddr - vista x64 ultimate(but it happens in x86 aswell) - radeon 3870 graphics.(fresh windows NEW drivers) so its not a problem with my hardware.

initially I thought it was a codec problem, so i reinstalled xp to wait untill it was fixed but now i don't think thats the problem ffdshow is still decoding it at over 30fps and it appears to look like 10fps.
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Did some more 720p video testing.. 1 AVI file, 1 MKV file..

Winamp 5.51: AVI slowmotion unwatchable, MKV does not even open.
Windows Media Player: AVI works, MKV works
Video Lan Player: AVI works, MKV works

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