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Old 17th April 2013, 07:01   #241
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Well, I finally tried out the 4.0 version. Its output is here: http://www.markheadrick.com/winamp-info.shtml (well, after I applied my edits to the HTML output).

When I downloaded the file from the plugins page http://www.winamp.com/plugin/details/222500 , here's the file it offered up to me: Winamp_Info_Tool_v2_2_3_4_5.exe

A tad confusing as it seems to imply version 2.2.3.4.5 of the tool. LOL. The file version was 4.0.0.3006 though. Using Firefox 20.0.1 for what that's worth.
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Old 17th April 2013, 07:50   #242
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The 2.2.3.4.5 thing will be automatically added by the weird winamp.com submit system. I'm really not happy with it either.

I'll try to upload the next version as zip or via installer, because it's really confusing.

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Old 17th April 2013, 13:44   #243
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Hi Koopa,

For the past week, I have been comparing your Winamp Info Report (in your signature) to mine and I noticed that "msvcr90.dll" is listed as installed in Winamp's root directory.

According to a recent post by DJ Egg (#253 in this thread: http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=356750&page=7), it is in the wrong place.

"On WinXP/7/8 it goes in the "%ProgramFiles%\Winamp\Microsoft.VC90.CRT" folder,
whereas on Win2k it needed to go in just the "%ProgramFiles%\Winamp" root dir."

On my system this library file is in the correct folder, but Winamp uses a newer version from my Windows WinSxS folder. So on my computer, I don't think the location matters, but I decided to mention it so that you could check your computer and avoid potential problems going forward.

I wouldn't want you to have any unnecessary downtime while working on the next version of the Info Tool.

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Old 17th April 2013, 20:35   #244
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Here is a sneak preview of v4.1:


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4.1 pre-Beta:

- added language selector to general preferences
- removed obsolete 'Remember selected language' option from prefs
- fixed that Japanese language wasn't remembered on restart
- fixed that the 'Browse' button in prefs set the wrong default destination path for reports, if 'Cancel' was selected
- [HTML/TXT Generator] added version number detection for input, output, general, ml, pmp, vis, dsp & encoder plugins
- [HTML/TXT Generator] added detection of 'Winamp Modern Skin Components' (.wac files, e.g. Color Editor)
- [TXT Generator] added version number detection for File Type Icon Libraries and Gracenote System Files
- [TXT Generator] fixed wrong count of Gracenote Files (due to a bug in the language file)
There will be an official beta with more things, but I have exams soon, so I cannot work on it during the next weeks, but at least you have something to play with.

Notes:

- HTML report doesn't detect version number for Gracenote and File Type Icon libraries yet
- still needs somefine tuning
- all of the new stuff isn't localizable yet
- HTML ANSI report wasn't updated yet

Use it on your own risk.



EDIT: superseeded by Beta 1 below

-Chris

PS: Aminifu: the file is in the correct folder for me too (Winamp's installer does it automatically) the file in my root dir was installed by a 3rd party plugin. But I'm glad that you are interested so much in the health of my install. lol
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Old 21st April 2013, 13:27   #245
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PS: Aminifu: the file is in the correct folder for me too (Winamp's installer does it automatically) the file in my root dir was installed by a 3rd party plugin. But I'm glad that you are interested so much in the health of my install. lol
Yeah, well your Info Tool (and Backup Tool) is the only thing we now have to help us keep our Winamp configurations humming along.

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Old 29th April 2013, 11:34   #246
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Hi Koopa,

I noticed a minor error in the System Files Summary section in the TXT version of the report (v4.0.0 b3006). The info is reported correctly in the HTML version.

My configuration has 4 Gracenote files, but the TXT version reports 33 (an impossibly large number and the 4 files are listed correctly earlier in the Gracenote section). However, the total number of system files reported is correct.

So the code that is summing the actual number of the 3 types of system files is correct, but it appears that the number reported for the system components is also used to report the number of Gracenote files.

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Old 30th April 2013, 02:44   #247
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4.1 pre-Beta:

- [TXT Generator] fixed wrong count of Gracenote Files (due to a bug in the language file)
This maybe? Please try it with the 4.1 pre-beta again.

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Old 30th April 2013, 05:22   #248
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Opps!

Sorry, I was gonna skip the pre-beta, so I didn't read the whole change log (not a wise thing to do). The 4.1 pre-beta does fix the issue.

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Old 3rd May 2013, 18:49   #249
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Winamp info tool is a lightweight utility desugn to give you all information about installed winamp version.
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Old 18th May 2013, 15:47   #250
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Winamp Info Tool v 4.1 Beta available:

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4.1 Beta:

- added language selector to general preferences
- merged HTML Unicode/ANSI code scripts (makes things much more easy in future, big thanks and all credits go to Paweł)
- made 'Restore default settings' button also cleans up the ini file
- fixed that the 'Browse' button in prefs set the wrong default destination path for reports, if 'Cancel' was selected
- fixed that Japanese language wasn't remembered on restart
- fixed wrong detection of Playlist Numbers setting on fresh Winamp installs
- fixed wrong detection of Playlist font size setting detection on fresh Winamp installs
- fixed wrong detection of Playlist Font Direction setting on fresh Winamp installs
- fixed wrong 'Path' setting location in the ini file on fresh installs
- fixed wrong "Crossfading at End of song" value in the GUI, if out_ds.dll is not the active ouput plugin
- removed obsolete 'Remember selected language' option from prefs
- [HTML/TXT Generator] added detection of 'Winamp Modern Skin Components' (.wac files, e.g. Color Editor)
- [HTML/TXT Generator] added version number detection for input, output, general, ml, pmp, vis, dsp & encoder plugins
- [HTML/TXT Generator] added version number detection for File Type Icon Libraries and Gracenote System Files
- [TXT Generator] improved visual style of file extensions listing
- [TXT Generator] fixed wrong count of Gracenote Files (due to a bug in the language file)
It will require a minor language update, the new example file will be available within the next few days.

Big thanks go to Pawel, who merged HTML Unicode and ANSI scripts, which makes my life much more easy in future <3.

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And I have already uploaded my files to Mediafire, generated with v4.1 pre-beta...
http://www.lastfm.de/user/SabineKlar...l-_&_txt-files
Just downloaded the v4.1 Beta, I will check it later, after my live-show, and the chat-room is full now, maybe I have to make my show a little bit longer. But I think, v4.1 will be also very good. Keep up Your good work!...

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Old 20th May 2013, 17:19   #252
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Hi Koopa,

Just tried version 4.1.0 Beta 1 [Build 3375]. Good work.

The Registered File Extensions section would be easier to read, in the text version of the extended report, if there were separators between the file extensions listed.

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Old 20th May 2013, 17:29   #253
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Hi Koopa,

Just tried version 4.1.0 Beta 1 [Build 3375]. Good work.

The Registered File Extensions section would be easier to read, in the text version of the extended report, if there were separators between the file extensions listed.
Thanks.

Can you show me a txt example which shows what exactly you mean?
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The following is how the section appears in my Notepad app. When I tried to copy and paste it here, there were line breaks between each extension. If these breaks are supposed to be there, it's strange that they don't appear in Notepad.

<<<<< Registered File Extensions >>>>>

FLACMP3M4AWAVWVM3UM3U8

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Old 20th May 2013, 19:10   #255
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I could reproduce the issue with Windows Editor. It completely had ignored the line breaks.

This should fix your issue:

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Thanks for the report.

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Old 21st May 2013, 14:01   #256
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Hi,

Build 3385 does fix the "... ignored the line breaks" issue. Thank you.

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Old 25th May 2013, 20:48   #257
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Winamp Info Tool 4.1 RC1:

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4.1 RC:

- added a prompt, that a Winamp Info Tool restart is required, if the language was changed
- added a prompt, that a Winamp Info Tool restart is required, if the default language or font will be restored
- fixed that 'Restore Default Settings' button doesn't set 'FirstRun' to "0" correctly (4.1 beta specific)
- updated English and German language file to v2.2
- [GUI & HTML/TXT Generator] fixed empty space in Windows Version, if no SP is installed
- [GUI & HTML/TXT Generator] changed strings for metadata reading options to fit the new default setting in Winamp 5.7
- [HTML/TXT Generator] added detection of Winamp Volume value in %
- [HTML/TXT Generator] added detection of Winamp Balance value (center, left & right value in %)
- [HTML/TXT Generator] added legacy DirectX version for Windows Vista/7/8 to reports
- [HTML/TXT Generator] complete rewrote of Crossfading detection code to fix some issues
- [TXT Generator] improved visual style of version number listings
- [TXT Generator] fixed bad formatting of file extensions listing in Windows Editor (4.1 beta specific)
An updated language file v2.2 is also available. As usual, I will build a new version as soon as I saw a language update.

People without Xlat Access can always find latest build here:

http://koopa.meggamusic.co.uk/Download/Lang/Winamp_Info_Tool.exe

If there are any questions or something else, just lemme know.

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Old 27th May 2013, 03:05   #258
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Hi,

Thanks for the update! The volume and balance info are nice additions. The volume is easy to see on most skins, imo, but people do seem to overlook it. The balance is more tricky and harder to adjust visually.

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Old 28th May 2013, 00:08   #259
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Thanks for testing.

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The volume is easy to see on most skins, imo, but people do seem to overlook it.
Yeah, and this was the main inspiration.

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Winamp Info Tool v4.1 RC2 is now available.

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- made that tool remembers and restores last prefs page
- swapped position of Language and Font settings
- general code cleanup and improvements
- several GUI tweaks to fit other translations
- updated Polish language file to v2.2 (thanks Paweł)
- updated Japanese language file to v2.2 (thanks T-Matsu)
- updated PortugeseBR language file to v2.2 (thanks candiba)
- [HTML/TXT Generator] fixed that Gracenote files didn't show full version number
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Old 5th June 2013, 19:06   #261
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Hi Koopa - great work, but cheeky request here.

First... sorry this thread is tl;dr so may already have been answered.

I notice you have a Plugins White List mentioned. Any chance of flagging the "official" plugins in your text report? Either by having their own section or just simply putting a * in front of official items?

Trouble is when I see one of these reports I then have to step out of supporting that user as I don't have time to spot the difference between all the plugins. There is just too much info in that report for me to make sense of. So it would be a HUGE help if a note can be put against the official plugins. Allowing us to then spot the thrid party ones quicker.

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Old 5th June 2013, 20:45   #262
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Trouble is when I see one of these reports I then have to step out of supporting that user as I don't have time to spot the difference between all the plugins. ...
Until Koopa can grant your request, the unofficial ones usually do not have version number info.

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Old 6th June 2013, 07:34   #263
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the unofficial ones usually do not have version number info.
A lot of them have: Link

I've seen a lot of vis or input plugins, which store the version ressource as well.

Batter Pudding:

I will try to come up with something, though the whitelist would be based on guessing (like the HTML report already does for the plugin names), because I can only make the whitelist based on the plugin file name, and it's possible, that a 3rd party plugin is named 'in_mp3.dll' as well as the Nullsoft version.

But that shouldn't happen often, and the whitelist solution should be helpful for tech support, so your request is more than valid. Additionally, like Aminifu said, the officials have a version number, so if we mark an offical with a * we still can look at the version number to verify it.

I will provide a test build within the next days.

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Old 6th June 2013, 09:00   #264
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Cool. Thanks. Something like this then means I can read a report and spot a third party plugin easier. To be honest, the Winamp install on my main PC is so old I don't have a clue what plugins it now uses - official vs third party. (Unless I compare it to the newly installed beta on the other PC) Now I'll have a chance to read a new user's report and point at the daft lyrics pluggin or whatever.
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Old 6th June 2013, 17:28   #265
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Batter Pudding:

LINK REMOVED

Currently working for all plugins in TXT report. I can come up with a much more beautiful implementation in HTML.

[Edit] Build 3415 is working for all plugins in TXT report now. HTML will follow later (probably at weekend)
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Old 6th June 2013, 20:13   #266
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Just downloaded and run on the current beta on this PC I am on. And, um, sorry, but it broke!

Win7 x64 Ultimate.

Winamp installed in D:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp\
Winamp AppData in E:\Users\Batter Pudding\AppData\Roaming\Winamp\

Notice both are non standard locations.

The GUI showed me everything looking good. Correct folders listed etc.

Hit the button to "create extended report" but got the following errors (I guess a full set):
(Yes, a Message box each, but I condensed to short list)
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Winamp Info Tool
---------------------------
Error: Was not able to detect your Input Plug-ins.
Error: Was not able to detect your Output Plug-ins.
Error: Was not able to detect your Visualization Plug-ins.
Error: Was not able to detect your DSP/Effects Plug-ins.
Error: Was not able to detect your General Purpose Plug-ins.
Error: Was not able to detect your Media Library Plug-ins.
Error: Was not able to detect your Portable Devices Plug-ins.
Error: Was not able to detect your Encoder Plug-ins.
Error: Was not able to detect your System Components.
Error: Was not able to detect your DLL Files in Winamp's root dir.
Error: Was not able to detect your Gracenote system files.
Error: Was not able to detect your installed Modern Skin Components.
Error: Was not able to detect your Classic Skins.
Error: Was not able to detect your Modern Skins.
Error: Was not able to detect your Skins in Folders.
Error: Was not able to detect your File Type Icon Libraries.
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------


I have downloaded your Info Tool a couple of times in the past. And this time when I ran it I just nosed at the pages then hit the report button. Didn't mess with any preferences.

I also found that no report had been saved. No folder created for the reports. Though the correct filename was implied (the E:\Users\ was correctly used
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Can you check HTML report please?

And give this a try for txt:

LINK REMOVED

I cannot repro the issue, and only have changed code for the plugins, that the components etc detection failed must be another issue, independent from the current changes.

Does the tool show your Winamp install dir and your profile dir correctly? Are the 'Open' buttons for these dirs in the GUI working?
Is the output plugin etc in the GUI correct?

And can you confirm, that this was broken with the internal build from my link and is not reproducible with the 2 versions listed on the first page of this thread?

And please give me a copy of your Winamp_Info_Tool.ini file
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Okay.... this is interesting. And I'll cover all the points as I can. First I grab your latest version of the tool to test with.

Now a closer look at my e:\Users\Batter Pudding\AppData\Roaming\Winamp\ folder. And still I see no "Reports" folder - but there is an older Winamp_Info_report_10.04.2013.txt sitting there. But scattered in among other files.

So maybe Winamp_Info_Tool.ini holds the key? I see it there and I'll attach it here for you. (Winamp_Info_Tool.ini.txt) I notice in there is says the Path=e:\Users\Batter Pudding\AppData\Roaming\Winamp\Reports yet there is no Reports folder.

Just before downloading the older versions I am going to delete this ini file. Just carry out a quick test...

AND... that was all there was to it. It is working now. Deleting the old ini file and running it clean and the info tool now works fine. I have a report. And I have a Reports folder. I have also added the NEW Winamp_Info_Tool.ini to this post for comparison. (Winamp_Info_Tool - Works OK.ini.txt)


My guess? Something to do with that reports folder not getting created. All good now. I have working reports. So now I'll have a nose at the HTML... but probably eat dinner first. Long day.
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File Type: txt Winamp_Info_Tool - Works OK.ini.txt (610 Bytes, 217 views)
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Oh and I do have to say I like the (*) additions. Already I look at my own Plugins and think - what are in_wav.dll and in_wv.dll. Which I would never have spotted otherwise. This will help a LOT when trying to speed read a report for forumites.

A slightly different question. Why all the line feeds on the Registered File Extensions? Would a comma separated list not work better thereby using up less screen and therefore post space?

I'll also have a look at the HTML report later. For now I was mainly interested in what is going to be posted to the forum. That is where I will see more reports than anywhere else.

Excellent work. Thanks.
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The difference in your ini files is, that the first version still stores the path in the old location, but if the the tool doesn't find the new ini entry, it will use the standard path.

But I can reproduce the issue now and see what isn't working corretly. You are right, it has issues, if the report dir doesn't exists.

I will add some code to prevent these scenarios.

Big thanks for your help and pointing me to the issue.

Now lets look forward I still havn't got any feedback from your because of your feature request. :P
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The difference in your ini files is, that the first version still stores the path in the old location, but if the the tool doesn't find the new ini entry, it will use the standard path.

But I can reproduce the issue now and see what isn't working corretly. You are right, it has issues, if the report dir doesn't exists.

I will add some code to prevent these scenarios.

Big thanks for your help and pointing me to the issue.
Excellent. Always glad I can help. And the developer head I have does spot the possibilities.

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Now lets look forward I still havn't got any feedback from your because of your feature request. :P
And the second post I made was about the new feature. You do realise there was a catch-22? I could not SEE the new feature as the report could not be saved in the non-existent Reports folder. Once I killed the old ini and got a reports folder I got my Report.

And I knew it was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more important to get your bug fix back to you before I check my daft new idea out.

So the review of the new feature followed. And, as said above, it is very handy.


What then made me laugh is after posting that feedback I did go and look at the HTML. I like it, especially the colours. And then laughed when I spotted that the Registered File Extensions was in a semi-colon separated list. Just like I was suggesting in the text file version.

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Oh and I do have to say I like the (*) additions. Already I look at my own Plugins and think - what are in_wav.dll and in_wv.dll. Which I would never have spotted otherwise. This will help a LOT when trying to speed read a report for forumites.

A slightly different question. Why all the line feeds on the Registered File Extensions? Would a comma separated list not work better thereby using up less screen and therefore post space?
I'm glad that you like it, HTML version for official plugins will look much better.

The reason why I use line breaks is the limitation of txt files, the only formatting you can use are tabs and line breaks. I read the whole file extensions list as one big string. I manipulate the strings already in many cases, but in TXT I'm limited you can have all extension listed with comma/semicolon in one line (this I used before, but was terrible horizontal scrolling) or with line breaks.

In HTML I have much more abilities, that's the reason why HTML will be the default format in near future, once I've implemented zip support.
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I understand you with the line length issue in the text file. Personally, if I have a stupidly long single row like that, I'd keep looking for every 80th character, then counted back until I found a space and replaced that space with a line feed. Thereby chopping that long line of text up into chunks around the average file width. But then I am odd.

Leaving it how it is now with the line feeds makes sense. It is certainly clear to read and no sane person is going to print this out anyway.


I understand what you are saying about HTML, but am a fan of txt files. Maybe I am just old. I predate all this new fangled interwebby stuff. I just don't think the HTML file will be a good default for Support Forum use.

With a forum like this, if I see an HTML attachment then I will never click on it. HTML files are too active and can link to too many surprises for my liking. I don't want to see some little scammer upload up a "report" and then embed some dodgy links in it. Raw txt files are harmless as well as being easier to paste into a forum post.

Even a noob can copy and paste from Notepad to a forum post. And clever Noobs can even manage to attach a text file. That same ID-10T noob will NOT be able to do with an HTML file. NO forum attach, and no copy and paste.

Remember - a lot of support requests come from noobie lusers who barely know how to use their PC. Let alone change a setting in a report tool to make something that can then be pasted into the forum.

If we want noobies to use the report tool - it has to be idiot proof. This is why you must always test while Very Very Very drunk and most of your brain cells have been removed.


Yes, I can understand the clarity of a HTML file with colour and so on. Ideal for those who want to keep an eye on their own Winamp installs. But for support raw text will always be the key.

Just a few thoughts... not complaints, just feedback.

Now if I was going to be awkward I'd ask for the output to be compatible with Fortran77 punched cards... (http://www.herongyang.com/Computer-H...unch-Card.html) ARF! Must be the beer talking...


Still think your reports are a darn fine addition to the forum.
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Old 8th June 2013, 19:02   #274
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4.1 Final is available.

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4.1:
- updated Romanian language file to v2.2 (thanks Cătălin)
- updated Turkish language file to v2.2 (thanks Ali)
- tool will create the Report dir on start now, if it doesn't exists
- made 'Restore default settings' also creates the default report dir, if it doesn't exists
- [HTML/TXT Generator] made that all first party input, output, dsp, vis, ml, pmp, enc and system components are marked with a *
- [HTML/TXT Generator] forced the tool to create the report dir, if it doesn't exists already (thanks Batter Pudding)
- [HTML Generator] added plugin name detection for MAD Plug-in and Monkey's Audio Player
- [TXT Generator] minor visual improvements
A lot of things were changed improved in 4.0/4.1 and I guess it's now worth to be the official reporting tool.

Many thanks to Pawel and the translators. Remember you can still check in updated language files or create a language file in your language.

I wrote a really nice function, shared by HTML/TXT reporter to mark official plugins/components in the report.

I played a lot with HTML, but changing the font color for whole line was looking bad, so I followed the TXT version with a simple small * and I guess it looks fine.

The updater was enabled for that build now and I'm trying to upload it to winamp.com in near future.
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Hi,

Great addition, indicating the first party components.

Thanx BP, for the suggestion.

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4.1 is now available via Winamp.com

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I've changed the download link in the first posting.
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Hi Koopa,

There seems to be some inconsistency in indicating 1st party components in the System Components section of version 4.1.0.

a52.w5s, dca.w5s, and f283.w5s are not flagged. Thinktink's fairly recent bpembededart.w5s is flagged (was it promoted?).

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those 3 are a bit of a weird area with things though probably should be starred (is up to koopa since anything in the EP isn't standard which i believe was the aim of the starring to show).
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Maybe the "almost official" Essentials Pack needs a different symbol. A (+) is almost a (*)?

Looks like I may have opened a can of worms with my suggestion... Now we have black lists, white lists and kind of murky grey lists...
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Thinktink's fairly recent bpembededart.w5s is flagged (was it promoted?).
Not if you are using build 3432, that's the version which is on winamp.com

Will think about the Essentials Pack files.
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