Using the NSV browser plugin for audio only streams

hmans · 13th February 2004, 14:21

Hi everyone. I've been wondering if it's possible at all to use the NSV browser plugin for streaming MP3-only ShoutCast streams?

I really like the fact that the NSV browser applet installs automatically on both IE and Mozilla/Firebird/Firefox. I would very much like to embed it into my Shoutcast station's website, but I haven't found anything that hints at the applet being able to play simple MP3 streams.

(And yes, I'm aware of the fact that you can embed RealPlayer/WMP/Quicktime. It's the NSV thingy I'm interested in, because it's seksie. :b)

Anyone?

FesterHead · 13th February 2004, 15:03

*moved from sc-d to sc-nsv*

Jay · 13th February 2004, 16:15

no I don't think you can.

DJ Matt · 13th February 2004, 22:43

Nope, I tried, doesn't work.

www.freedomaudio.com is good, but requires java and only works on windows.

hmans · 21st February 2004, 18:37

That's a shame. Earth to Nullsoft: making the NSV control work with MP3-only Shoutcast streams with no video would be very nice. I'm sure it would make a lot of people happy. Do it! Do it now!

The NSV browser control is awesome since it auto-installs on IE and Mozilla/Firefox. It would be absolutely perfect for MP3 Shoutcast station websites.

ken52787 · 21st February 2004, 19:00

Well, while it can't play normal mp3 shoutcast streams, it can play audio only streams. I just tested it on a .nsa file and it indeed works, and with full AAC glory (MP3 also works)

If you set up a stream to run with No Video codec selected, you can connect to it with this, and get an audio only stream.

hmans · 21st February 2004, 19:58

Quote:

Originally posted by ken52787
Well, while it can't play normal mp3 shoutcast streams, it can play audio only streams. I just tested it on a .nsa file and it indeed works, and with full AAC glory (MP3 also works)

Sounds good. How would I do this on a Linux system? I'm currently using sc_serv (obviously), with an instance of sc_trans generating a MP3 stream. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

ken52787 · 21st February 2004, 20:05

You need to access to an encoder (not sure if there are linux ones). Just change the encoding settings to AAC for audio and No Video for video. Then you can use whatever the linux alternative to nsvscsrc is to serve it.

I haven't tried, but it should work with NSVCAP as well.

hmans · 21st February 2004, 23:02

That sounds like it will break things like Shoutcast relay servers and probably also the shoutcast.com listing... any comments?

ken52787 · 21st February 2004, 23:03

Yes it will. Thats the most complex comment I can give

21st February 2004, 23:04

It would be listed as Internet TV and not Radio if you made it public (you don't have to make it public). Also, NSV relays still don't work with NSV (unless you hack the EXE).

ken52787 · 21st February 2004, 23:54

Sawg, has anyone successfully hacked the exe to allow for this?

21st February 2004, 23:58

I have, though I really haven't tested it too much.
I have sucessfully locally relayed a local stream.

Still need to test it with the actual YP listings.

ken52787 · 22nd February 2004, 00:07

I'm not sure if this against the rules or anything, but can you post the hack or tell how you did it. If it's against the rules, PMing is always available

22nd February 2004, 00:10

http://www.public.asu.edu/~abarber2/...cast_Relay.exe

ken52787 · 22nd February 2004, 00:21

gracias amigo

hmans · 22nd February 2004, 03:03

Thanks for all the comments and ideas, but the voices in my head are telling me that it'd be a much cleaner solution to just let the NSV control support standard ICY MP3 streams as well. *sniff*

sankt · 22nd February 2004, 12:48

Tell the voices in your head to go to

www.freedomaudio.com

OR

www.javazoom.com/jlgui/jlgui.html

jlGui is a graphical music player that supports JavaSound capabilities : WAV, AU, AIFF, MP3 thanks to JavaLayer (Java™ MP3 decoder) library and OGG Vorbis through our VorbisSPI. This project has been launched by JavaZOOM on February 1999. The goal is to provide a real-time music player for the Java Plaform, WinAmp skins compatible with streaming support.

hmans · 22nd February 2004, 16:01

I've used FreedomAudio before. I like the NSV browser control because, I know you've seen it coming, it doesn't require Java.

Not a lot of people have an installed JRE these days.

sankt · 22nd February 2004, 17:54

Activex is not universal, java is and is not platform dependent.

The world does not revolve around Micro$oft alone. ( Thank god )

hmans · 22nd February 2004, 19:15

The NSV control auto-installs on IE and Mozilla/Firebird Windows. That covers roughly 99.9% of the people who'd *want* to use an embedded control. The Linux types will be smart enough to just pass the feed URL to their XMMS.

Please stick to the topic.

sankt · 22nd February 2004, 21:14

Then I suggest you contact the developement team at NullSoft

13th February 2004, 14:21	#1
hmans Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Krautland Posts: 12	Using the NSV browser plugin for audio only streams Hi everyone. I've been wondering if it's possible at all to use the NSV browser plugin for streaming MP3-only ShoutCast streams? I really like the fact that the NSV browser applet installs automatically on both IE and Mozilla/Firebird/Firefox. I would very much like to embed it into my Shoutcast station's website, but I haven't found anything that hints at the applet being able to play simple MP3 streams. (And yes, I'm aware of the fact that you can embed RealPlayer/WMP/Quicktime. It's the NSV thingy I'm interested in, because it's seksie. :b) Anyone?

13th February 2004, 16:15	#3
Jay Moderator Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: Next Door Posts: 8,942	no I don't think you can. -Jay \| Radio Toolbox.com

13th February 2004, 22:43	#4
DJ Matt Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 433	Nope, I tried, doesn't work. www.freedomaudio.com is good, but requires java and only works on windows. Matt... Star104 Internet Radio http://www.star104.net Oldies104 Celebrating 14 years on the air! (Does anyone remember OldiesRadioNET.com?)

21st February 2004, 19:00	#6
ken52787 Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,297	Well, while it can't play normal mp3 shoutcast streams, it can play audio only streams. I just tested it on a .nsa file and it indeed works, and with full AAC glory (MP3 also works) If you set up a stream to run with No Video codec selected, you can connect to it with this, and get an audio only stream. NSV downloads An in-depth step by step guide for newbies, coming soon.

21st February 2004, 20:05	#8
ken52787 Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,297	You need to access to an encoder (not sure if there are linux ones). Just change the encoding settings to AAC for audio and No Video for video. Then you can use whatever the linux alternative to nsvscsrc is to serve it. I haven't tried, but it should work with NSVCAP as well. NSV downloads An in-depth step by step guide for newbies, coming soon.

13th February 2004, 15:03	#2
FesterHead Alumni Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,108	moved from sc-d to sc-nsv

21st February 2004, 18:37	#5
hmans Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Krautland Posts: 12	That's a shame. Earth to Nullsoft: making the NSV control work with MP3-only Shoutcast streams with no video would be very nice. I'm sure it would make a lot of people happy. Do it! Do it now! The NSV browser control is awesome since it auto-installs on IE and Mozilla/Firefox. It would be absolutely perfect for MP3 Shoutcast station websites.

21st February 2004, 23:02	#9
hmans Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Krautland Posts: 12	That sounds like it will break things like Shoutcast relay servers and probably also the shoutcast.com listing... any comments?

21st February 2004, 23:03	#10
ken52787 Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,297	Yes it will. Thats the most complex comment I can give NSV downloads An in-depth step by step guide for newbies, coming soon.

21st February 2004, 23:04	#11
Sawg Guest Posts: n/a	It would be listed as Internet TV and not Radio if you made it public (you don't have to make it public). Also, NSV relays still don't work with NSV (unless you hack the EXE).

21st February 2004, 23:54	#12
ken52787 Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,297	Sawg, has anyone successfully hacked the exe to allow for this? NSV downloads An in-depth step by step guide for newbies, coming soon.

21st February 2004, 23:58	#13
Sawg Guest Posts: n/a	I have, though I really haven't tested it too much. I have sucessfully locally relayed a local stream. Still need to test it with the actual YP listings.

22nd February 2004, 00:07	#14
ken52787 Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,297	I'm not sure if this against the rules or anything, but can you post the hack or tell how you did it. If it's against the rules, PMing is always available NSV downloads An in-depth step by step guide for newbies, coming soon.

22nd February 2004, 00:10	#15
Sawg Guest Posts: n/a	http://www.public.asu.edu/~abarber2/...cast_Relay.exe

22nd February 2004, 00:21	#16
ken52787 Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,297	gracias amigo NSV downloads An in-depth step by step guide for newbies, coming soon.

22nd February 2004, 03:03	#17
hmans Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Krautland Posts: 12	Thanks for all the comments and ideas, but the voices in my head are telling me that it'd be a much cleaner solution to just let the NSV control support standard ICY MP3 streams as well. sniff

22nd February 2004, 12:48	#18
sankt Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: www.ScenicRadio.com Posts: 2,975	Tell the voices in your head to go to www.freedomaudio.com OR www.javazoom.com/jlgui/jlgui.html jlGui is a graphical music player that supports JavaSound capabilities : WAV, AU, AIFF, MP3 thanks to JavaLayer (Java™ MP3 decoder) library and OGG Vorbis through our VorbisSPI. This project has been launched by JavaZOOM on February 1999. The goal is to provide a real-time music player for the Java Plaform, WinAmp skins compatible with streaming support. Scenic Television is your ambient window to the world - - Television.ScenicRadio.com

22nd February 2004, 16:01	#19
hmans Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Krautland Posts: 12	I've used FreedomAudio before. I like the NSV browser control because, I know you've seen it coming, it doesn't require Java. Not a lot of people have an installed JRE these days.

22nd February 2004, 17:54	#20
sankt Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: www.ScenicRadio.com Posts: 2,975	Activex is not universal, java is and is not platform dependent. The world does not revolve around Micro$oft alone. ( Thank god ) Scenic Television is your ambient window to the world - - Television.ScenicRadio.com

22nd February 2004, 19:15	#21
hmans Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Krautland Posts: 12	The NSV control auto-installs on IE and Mozilla/Firebird Windows. That covers roughly 99.9% of the people who'd want to use an embedded control. The Linux types will be smart enough to just pass the feed URL to their XMMS. Please stick to the topic.

22nd February 2004, 21:14	#22
sankt Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: www.ScenicRadio.com Posts: 2,975	Then I suggest you contact the developement team at NullSoft Scenic Television is your ambient window to the world - - Television.ScenicRadio.com

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