Old 29th January 2004, 12:49   #1
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New form of matter?

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Scientists Create New Form of Matter
By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Correspondent

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Scientists said on Wednesday they had created a new form of matter and predicted it could help lead to the next generation of superconductors for use in electricity generation, more efficient trains and countless other applications.

The new matter form is called a fermionic condensate and it is the sixth known form of matter -- after gases, solids, liquids, plasma and a Bose-Einstein condensate, created only in 1995.

"What we've done is create this new exotic form of matter," Deborah Jin, a physicist at the National Institute of Standards and Technology's joint lab with the University of Colorado, who led the study, told a news conference.

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Old 29th January 2004, 14:07   #2
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This sounds really cool. If they could make superconductors in roomtemprature it would change everything. The possibillity to transport electrisity over long distanses without any resistans. That could make all those dreams of large solarpanels in the desserts come true. Imagine a world without any cole-powerplants poluting the air. We could also drive our cars with electrisity and almost all polution from traffic would be gone.

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Old 29th January 2004, 14:39   #3
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WHAT?!
schools lie, they say there are only 3 forms of matter...i feel so..cheated

oh, yay!

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Old 29th January 2004, 14:54   #4
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WHAT?!
schools lie, they say there are only 3 forms of matter...i feel so..cheated

oh, yay!
Freshman year in my Integrated Science class we went over gases, solids, and liquids, and mentioned plasma, but didn't cover it since it wasn't part of the physicial science curriculum...This "Bose-Einstein condensate" is totally alien to me...

But this is a facinating discovery, and I'm deeply interested...

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Old 29th January 2004, 21:49   #6
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That could make all those dreams of large solarpanels in the desserts come true.
Yes, I've always had that dream of having a large solar panel coming out of my dessert. I like ice cream, but it seems to melt in room temperature. Maybe this newfound matter will help keep it frozen.

Sounds cool. I'm looking forward to them actually applying it to something.
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Depends on what functions it will actually have in our everyday life...

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This sounds really cool. If they could make superconductors in roomtemprature it would change everything. The possibillity to transport electrisity over long distanses without any resistans. That could make all those dreams of large solarpanels in the desserts come true. Imagine a world without any cole-powerplants poluting the air. We could also drive our cars with electrisity and almost all polution from traffic would be gone.
Solar panels cause more damage than they avoid.


A billionth of a degree from absolute zero huh? Where do they get the thermometers to measure that stuff!
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Solar panels cause more damage than they avoid.


A billionth of a degree from absolute zero huh? Where do they get the thermometers to measure that stuff!
Perhaps you are right here...solar panels may cause more damage than they're intended to avoid, especially when you put them in your desserts, like j0ck3 said. Oh well, least we can still dream about it.

They probably have other means of measuring temperature close to zero kelvin, corkhead0, besides using a thermometer. If NASA told you that there was a galaxy that was sixteen quintillion light years away from Earth, do you seriously think they measured that using a ruler?
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Depends on what functions it will actually have in our everyday life...

Well as the scientists put it, it can affect virtually everything we know now. Along with the new nano tube technology that is supposed to debut in TV's and other appliances in the near future.

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Solar panels cause more damage than they avoid.
Not necessarily. Solar panels could cover old radioactive dumpsites (but the construction would be hard)

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The Star Trek era is not to far away now is it?
Sorry, don't watch Star Trek, so it's quite far away for me...

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WHAT?!
schools lie, they say there are only 3 forms of matter...i feel so..cheated

oh, yay!
You didn't learn abouyt plasma at school?

I learned about it in 6th grade
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Depends...plasma the matter? or plasma the icky translucent goo in your body?

wait...maybe thats the same.

Anyone have a picture of the new form of matter?

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False colour images of a condensate formed from pairs of fermion potassium atoms. Higher areas indicate a greater density of atoms. Images from left to right correspond to the increasing strength of attraction between the atoms that form fermion pairs as the magnetic field strength is varied (image credit: Markus Greiner, University of Colorado, Boulder).
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