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Old 2nd November 2003, 11:56   #1
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Play ZIP Files in Winamp!!

Hey,

don't know, if this wish is already posted, but I want to explain this wish.

If you have thousands of MP3s on your PC, the most are complete LPs, you are getting confused by those thousands of MP3s and it would be much better, if you could just leave one ZIP Archive for a LP on your PC.

This ZIP archive has to be played by Winamp, which shows you the complete contents of the ZIP archive and lets you choose which song to be played. Easier to explain: A ZIP File is nothing other for Winamp than an directory.

Maybe there already is a Plug-In for Winamp 2.0, which do right that. If it is so, please let me know.

Thank You!
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Old 2nd November 2003, 14:04   #2
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Perhaps there could also be support for RAR and ACE (which encrypts a bit slower, but has a smaller size)
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Old 2nd November 2003, 14:04   #3
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http://mypage.bluewin.ch/c.sundin/wi...ns.html#unpack
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Old 2nd November 2003, 15:16   #4
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Hey,

great Plug-In, but not working, wether in RAR or ZIP files for me, don't find the right unzip32.dll/unrar.dll for Windows XP!

Maybe you can help me.

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Old 2nd November 2003, 17:08   #5
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...&q=unzip32.dll
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...-8&q=unrar.dll

Files go in the System32 dir.
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Old 2nd November 2003, 20:00   #6
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Doesn't work!
Some unzip32.dll causing Winamp to crash and others are not accepted by Winamp.

I put the plug-in to the winamp/plug-in directory and the unzip32.dll to the %systemroot%/system32 directory.

Maybe I have to own a specific unzip32.dll. I pack the archives with Winzip 8.1.

What should happen? I open the XYZ.MDZ file and then it should unzip it to the temporary directory and in Winamp I'll see the contents of the ZIP file and can play them right? If I close Winamp the files will be deleted out of the temporary directory right?

Please give me the right unzip32.dll
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Old 3rd November 2003, 07:16   #7
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OK, if an MP3 is already a seriously compressed file, wouldn't putting it in a zip file save you little if anything at all?

Is it an organization issue? If so, why not just use folders for each album?
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Old 3rd November 2003, 09:30   #8
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Organization issue and I already have folders for each LP, but its much better for file sharing, if you would have just one file for each LP.

And as you can see there already is a plug-in for that issue, but it doesn't work correctly.

If you know Windows XP, maybe you know the behaviour, if you click a ZIP Archive .. Windows XP displays a ZIP archive like a folder (zipfldr.dll), that would be the perfect solution for Winamp and the plug-in mentioned here is right that ... understand me?
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Old 5th November 2003, 17:22   #9
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Zipping MP3's saves little space and having a decent filing system will always be nicer than having a directory stuffed with zip files.
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Old 7th November 2003, 06:20   #10
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Try AlbumWrap, or the free, open source mp3wrap.

I am also working on a component for winamp3/WP (WrapRead, in wa3 dev forum) that will read the tracks in a wrapped mp3 like individual files. A simmilar thing could be done in wa2/5 i believe, but it would take more work.

about zipping mp3's... yes, it's quite worthless really, since the final step of mp3 encoding is very similar to zip. Though, if it's about organization, then an uncompressed zip or rar could be used. would save time too.

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Old 7th November 2003, 10:04   #11
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Yes Yes

But how to play now The plug-in mentioned in this topic doesn't work for me...
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Old 7th November 2003, 23:58   #12
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Support for compressed files in Winamp5

My English abilities are not the best, excuse me.

If anybody stil can remember Peter Pawlowski(Pawlowskiego)?
He was a reeeaally great developer (for winamp, now he has its own project foobar2000), and he was THE ONE who built the "read_file.dll".

Input plug-ins which used read_file.dll have possibility to directly open files in rar- zip- etc... archives.
Winamp(input plug-ins which use read_file.dll) could handle this playlist entry too:

x:\archive.rar\directory\...\file.mid

read_file has support for playing files in container files too.

Example

partial://000001F2-0033BD1E:#:\SCORES.MIX\SCORES_0000.AUD


NOW:

It would be very greeeeaaat if Winamp5 has same(and more)archive and containerfile support

Thank you NULLSOFT
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Old 8th November 2003, 00:12   #13
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Yup. Works for all of Peter's plugins (in_wave, in_mod, in_midi, in_vorbis).
Alas, Peter didn't write in_mp3, so read_file.dll doesn't support it.

This plugin also works with all of Peter's plugins, but again, not with in_mp3.
More info

[edit] Damn! The link is dead. I'll try find ZipReader plugin elsewhere.

I also found this plugin (archive player)

[edit2]
The correct unzip32.dll for Unpack plugin can be found in this package:
ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror...2/unz551dN.zip
http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/f...2/unz551dN.zip

I've tested both Unpack and Archive Player plugins, and both seem to be working ok for me :/
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Old 8th November 2003, 11:15   #14
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...! www.rrs.at/winamp would be the right plug-in for me (reading the other winamp forum topic), but the link is not alive.

Maybe anyone has the file here and can link it to an alive position.

Thank You!
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Old 8th November 2003, 11:36   #15
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Winamp5 beta 2 still uses pawlowski's programming codes in its plug-ins
[(Well latest midi-plug-in is shit, really shit. Nullsoft cutted features from peters latest midi plug-in v2.64
Now it is no more possible to convert exotic midi file types to normal midi files. This fact should be discussed in a new forum too. In this point I REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLYYYY hate NULLSOFT)]
from this plug-in and it uses peter pawlowski's latest read_file.dll.

However where are technical documents to read_file.dll
In "read_diz.txt", you can read that you should contact Peter, but he has no more interests in Winamp.
So, where can I find specs and docs to read_file.dll?

I would like to improove it and I would like to use this great dll in my own plug-ins at first for my "interplay's-acm plug-

You mentioned this "http://www.rrs.at/winamp"(now death), what could I found here?
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Old 8th November 2003, 11:48   #16
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Originally posted by emilioger
Yes Yes

But how to play now The plug-in mentioned in this topic doesn't work for me...
Are you referring to my wa3 component??? It's still alpha, and it doesn't work entirely yet (bug reports go here though), but basic functionality is there. Also, it is a WA3 component, not a wa2/5 plugin, so won't work with wa2/5.

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[edit] nm.. realized you were talking about the plug in the ~3rd post. [/edit]
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Old 8th November 2003, 14:11   #17
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Now it is no more possible to convert exotic midi file types to normal midi files.
File Info -> "Save" button.
Doesn't that work for you?

Re: ZipReader plugin, see "more info" link in my post above.
I've sent a PM to the author to see if we can get a new link.
Whether he'll answer or not remains to be seen (haven't been able to find it on google yet, but I'm sure I had a working link only a few days ago).
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Old 8th November 2003, 17:30   #18
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Winamp5 beta 2 still uses pawlowski's programming codes in its plug-ins
[(Well latest midi-plug-in is shit, really shit.
Nullsoft cutted features from peters latest midi plug-in v2.64
Now it is no more possible to convert exotic midi file types to normal midi files.
This fact should be discussed in a new forum too.
In this point I REEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLYYYY hate NULLSOFT)]...
After Peter Pawlowski's in_midi.dll v2.64, Nullsuft published a "new"
version of in_midi.dll in a new winamp 2.xx release. I still can remember this midi-plugin had no "save as" feature.

However now I see Nullsoft inserted the "save midi as"-feature again in winamp5 b2.

However where are the technical documents to read_file.dll and how can I build in support for this great dll into my own input plug-ins?
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Old 8th November 2003, 18:06   #19
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afaik, the "save" button's always been there.
Nothing much has changed in the midi plugin, apart from a name change,
a few bug fixes, and Peter himself removed the "use custom dls" option
(mainly out of hatred for all things Creative SB),
and an easier method of mid-to-wav (same as in Winamp3's midi converter, also coded by PP).
But the plugin is now property of Nullsoft, and that is that.

Re: read_file.dll
The docs are gone my friend.
All that's left is this.
You'll have to scour Peter's (dead) forum for further clues.
Hopefully, you can still access this forum.

I see you've been there before
search

And could you explain again exactly why you hate Nullsoft for any of this?
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Old 8th November 2003, 18:30   #20
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All problems (except read_file.dll problem) are solved. I do not hate Nullsoft any longer. ;-)

Should I contact Nullsoft for adding read_file.dll support in my own input plug-ins?
Which forum would be the best for this planned action?
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Old 8th November 2003, 18:49   #21
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Naturally, the Winamp Development Forum is best suited for such topics.
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Old 8th November 2003, 18:54   #22
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Thank you.
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Old 18th September 2004, 09:11   #23
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It's already the time for a compressed file (zip, rar, ace, etc) support on winamp! There's a lot of players like XMplayer with this support and the users of winamp can't wait more!
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Old 18th September 2004, 12:16   #24
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[edit] post above edited with new info [/edit]

in_mod, in_wave, in_midi (and maybe in_vorbis, not sure) all already support zip, as these were coded by Peter Pawlowski (zip support is via: read_file.dll).

However, in_mp3, in_mp4, in_dshow and in_wm don't support zip, because they weren't coded by PP.

So, if the devs could add support for read_file.dll to all plugins then the problem would be solved...

Note however that read_file.dll only supports playback of one audio file in the zip, not multiple files. So if this is what you want, then it will still require some 3rd-party to code a working plugin (or fix the old ones).

The main reason for not adding support is because the likes of mp3 and wma files are already compressed, and recompressing them into zip probably saves about an extra 0.1% disk space. Seems pretty pointless to me.

On the other hand, .mod, .midi and .wav files are uncompressed formats, so zipping them up saves quite a bit of hd space, and certainly makes more sense :/

So, what are your reasons for wanting zip support exactly? What are the advantages?
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Old 18th September 2004, 17:11   #25
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So, what are your reasons for wanting zip support exactly? What are the advantages?
/me fears saying it but... karaoke ....

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Old 26th September 2004, 02:04   #26
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So, what are your reasons for wanting zip support exactly? What are the advantages?
Hi, in my case, honestly the reasons are; faster hashing for p2p software like eMule and DC++. These take shorter to load if my albums are compressed, but just due to the fact of being only one file, not due to compression itself.
Please take this as a feature request, although i maybe be in the wrong section
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Old 26th September 2004, 15:33   #27
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Ok, i have a 160GB hard drive, atleast 30gigs of music, and i have everything organized, you really need to learn how to organize kid.

Also, why not just make playlists, it's so much simpler, infact, thats all that a playlist file is... except not the songs.

to be brutaly honest, your a total idiot.
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Old 26th September 2004, 15:57   #28
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to be brutaly honest, your a total idiot.
Not the best way to enter these forums. You owe someone an apology.
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Old 26th September 2004, 16:21   #29
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:'( i lost my username, so i'm not new :-P

and fine;

I'm sorry i'm such an ass
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Old 30th September 2004, 13:26   #30
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It would be great have compacted file reading on Winamp.
I really can't stand have to extract downloaded compacted album files to listen then, while I share the same file in p2p programs. It's a big waste of HD space have the same files twice. It's better have ten or more zipped files than a thousand of mp3 and m3u files... Besides, you can test this feature in the actuals XMplay and foobar players and it works perfect. So, why this necessary feature is not included in the wishlist?
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Old 30th September 2004, 18:28   #31
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Quite Right
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Old 30th September 2004, 22:50   #32
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/me fears saying it but... karaoke ....

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Old 30th September 2004, 22:57   #33
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since i'm a nice guy (and that toqer doing karaoke is the best thing i've seen ) i've started work on a prototype for this 'request' (since i need zip handling in some of my other projects and can do with a test bed for some other things).

eta on this: when it's done (please don't pester me, it only slows me down ) when i've got something that can be used then i will put out a test version.

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Old 4th October 2004, 03:08   #34
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COoL, ur a really NICE guy
thanx in advance
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...still not getting why .ZIP and .RAR parsing is not being made integral part of Winamp. The sourcecode examples are all out there and building it into the next release of Winamp would be a day's work or so, especially, considering that Winamp can already parse ZIP files (WSZ (skin) files are just ZIP archives with a different file extension).

Why? Because it is possible and no hassle to implement at all, as opposed to downloading some extra plugins and DLLs... A lot of MP3 albums (not just illegal files) are p2p shared as archives, especially using the bittorrent technology. As it is now, continuing to share these files and listening to them would mean to keep both the archive and the single MP3 files on your harddisk. What a waste of space!

The C.Sundin plugin is sweet, but unpacking everything to a temp dir can hardly bee the point. Extracting a play buffer to memory should be sufficient, the size of which could be determined in the preferences...

BTW: Are the files from WSZ's stored in a temp dir on harddisk?
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Old 9th November 2004, 02:41   #36
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BTW: Are the files from WSZ's stored in a temp dir on harddisk?
Yes. All files in .wsz and .wal skins are extracted to a subfolder in the system Temp dir and are then deleted when Winamp is closed.

Note: Support for zipped mp3's is already listed in the Wishlist sticky, so there's no need to revive this thread. And as already stated above, Winamp already supports zipped wav, mod, midi, ogg by default.... but only single files, not multiple files.

Also, it's easy for someone else to say "it's only a day's work", but if only programming was that easy in reality, eh ?! :/
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it's not viewed as an essential feature to add to the core hence why it's not been added before. despite a 5.06 build in the works it's a bug fix release with no new features (other than the newly built jtfe).

even if this was added in natively it would end up going into in_mp3 i think which funnily enough is one of those extra dlls. the core of winamp is not intended to do everything, that's what the plugins are there for.

that's just how things are and with an almost non existant dev team things are really now left for 3rd party developers (as it sort of has been for a while now)

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I use winamp for Karaoke (cdg+Mp3). Sax & Dotty's show Hoster uses and requires Winamp in order to use it. Now S&D show hoster can play zip file with these formats, so where is my zip file player plugin! I also read that the plugin that is kinda floating around only works if the cdg&mp3 have the exact name as the zip file to properly work in order for it not to crash any programs. Any Thoughts DJ's?
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