Old 13th February 2007, 17:46   #1
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Winamp 5.33 Released

Winamp 5.33
Winamp 5.33 Full emusic plus
Winamp 5.33 Pro (asks for key during install)
Winamp 5.33 Full emusic/bundle (includes 'Wet And Rusting by Menomena' mp3)
Winamp 5.33 Lite

IMPORTANT

If you upgrade on top of an already existing version then, unless you backup the media library database first, you cannot go back to 5.32 or earlier. This is because the media library database in 5.33 is now saved in a unicode compatible format.



What's New

* Improved: [gen_ml] unicode tree item title support
* Improved: [NDE] speed optimizations
* Improved: [ml_history] localized dates
* Improved: [ml_local] Unicode media library support
* Improved: [ml_playlists] now uses m3u8 to retain unicode file info
* Improved: [ml_playlists] playlists in send-to submenu
* Improved: [ml_pmp] playback-from-device of unicode filenames
* Improved: [ml_wire] moved discover page to main page
* Improved: [pmp_p4s] auto-detection of supported file formats
* Fixed: winamp agent multi-user issue
* Fixed: playlist directory loading fix (again)
* Fixed: recursive playlist loading
* Fixed: video lockup when switching video display settings
* Fixed: HTML playlist generation
* Fixed: temp file cleanup after burning
* Fixed: Alt+L from video window
* Fixed: fullscreen video display drawing glitch
* Fixed: recursive shortcut loading
* Fixed: ASX Loader not reading local relative paths correctly
* Fixed: [gen_ml] & needs expanding to && for any menu entries showing filenames
* Fixed: [in_cdda] crash on exit when ejecting CD
* Fixed: [in_flac] not saving genres.txt in multiuser directory
* Fixed: [in_mp3] create id3v2 tag when writing album artist
* Fixed: [in_mp3] workaround for id3v2.4 tags with badly formatted frame sizes
* Fixed: [in_vorbis] writing blank metadata instead of erasing
* Fixed: [in_wave] sometimes not remembering custom extensions
* Fixed: [in_wm] stack overflow on hi-def multichannel audio with replaygain enabled
* Fixed: [in_wm] File Info editor album artist not saving
* Fixed: [ml_local] Modern skin pledit winshade 'Manage Playlist' button bug
* Fixed: [ml_local] ignoring files with ellipsis (...)
* Fixed: [ml_local] editing disc via 'edit selected items'
* Fixed: [ml_local] sorting fix
* Fixed: [ml_local] ratings menu
* Fixed: [ml_local] crash when sorting by replaygain
* Fixed: [ml_local] deadlock when retrieving title to guess metadata
* Fixed: [ml_local] no longer causes unicode files in playlist to display ?????
* Fixed: [ml_playlists] time column and 'status' in statusbar
* Fixed: [ml_playlists] send-to another playlist lists playlist file instead of contents
* Fixed: [ml_pmp] <trackartist>
* Fixed: [ml_pmp] Metadata showing as -1
* Fixed: [ml_rg] multi-channel files being calculated incorrectly
* Fixed: [ml_transcode] bad/missing metadata on transcoded files
* Fixed: [ml_transcode] error on overly long filenames ("can't open destination file")
* Fixed: [ml_wire] podcasts that change titles not updating properly
* Fixed: [pmp_p4s] mass storage devices showing as Plays For Sure devices in Vista
* Fixed: [vis_milk] multi-user issues
* Updated: [enc_aacplus] Coding Technologies aacPlus encoder 8.0.3
* Updated: [enc_flac] Flake r117
* Updated: [gen_jumpex] Jump To File Extra v0.97.11 (build 109)
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Notes:

Winamp 5.33 build 1100

Only new ml playlists are now saved to .m3u8, i.e. it doesn't convert already-existing ml playlists from .m3u (ansi) to .m3u8 (unicode).

Windows Vista users are advised to uncheck 'Sonic Ripping/Burning Support' in the installer options.

Undocumented: in_mp4 now has a config where you can add/remove supported extensions (eg. MP4;M4A;M4B)

Essentials Pack is now available for 5.33
(check the post referenced for changes from the 5.32 essentials pack)
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Known Issues / Fixes Available

Keep a check on the Known Bugs thread for any news.

-Potential for some duplicate entries in Local Media after rescanning Watch Folders *
-Fix available here. Please post feedback in thread.

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Old Winamp 5.33 Beta thread
Old Winamp 5.32 Released thread
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Old 13th February 2007, 18:57   #2
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Nice!

Finally, ... great work!
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Old 13th February 2007, 19:56   #3
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As I mentioned when the 5.33 beta first came out:

In the install setup, choosing "Full" as the install type does NOT select "USB Devices Support" and "ActiveSync Support" under the "Portable Media Player Support" section.
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Old 13th February 2007, 20:12   #4
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Is it just me or is http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/...mp533_full.exe not available? This must be a first...

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Old 13th February 2007, 20:19   #5
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@ Trent187
Yes, it is by design, because there's apparently been plenty of reports where those plugins have caused problems for people who didn't actually need to install them. Not sure of the actual details, but they have to be manually selected.

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Yup, it's gone for now. Sorry.
Complain to the management, nothing anyone here can do about it.
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Old 13th February 2007, 20:31   #6
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Yup, it's gone for now. Sorry.
Complain to the management, nothing anyone here can do about it.
so, the management found out. also, how i read it, the unbundled full installer might come back??

btw, why is e-music bundled w/ winamp full?

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Old 13th February 2007, 20:38   #7
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i'd have thought the management were fully aware of the plain (decent) full installer. as for the emusic bundling, tis the joys of a corporate product and i'll now say nothing more (before i go into rant mode)

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Old 13th February 2007, 21:34   #8
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Sending unicode files to my ipod turns them into question marks, but if i locate the file i just transfered and re enter the unicode text with 'edit selected items...' it sticks. Any way to stop the file transfer from mucking with the unicode?
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Old 13th February 2007, 22:04   #9
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Winamp Essentials Pack v5.33

Same changelog like in my last build, heh:
  • Updated: Find File On Disk
  • Updated: Kill Predixis
  • Added previous mode to the installer
  • Some smaller tweaks
If you like stupid updates, grab your free copy now.

Unchanged from v5.32
* Ogg Vorbis aoTuV 4.51b5 Encoder
* Skins in submenu
* Playlist Undo
* ALAC decoder
* Lite-n Winamp Preferences


I hope we can provide something new for the next release, though.

[Edit] So nobody can say, that there isn't an essentials pack for 5.33 available
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Old 13th February 2007, 22:26   #10
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This isn't related specifically to 5.33, but... what tag type does Winamp read/write from FLAC files? FLAC tag editing in Winamp strikes me as awfully limited compared to, say, ID3v2 editing for an MP3 file.
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Old 13th February 2007, 22:30   #11
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For flac files, vorbis comments are used (Ogg Vorbis uses vorbis comments too)

Vorbis comments are a flexible tagging system.

More infos:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorbis_comments
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Old 14th February 2007, 00:21   #12
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can't see filesize in the bottom of the library window, as it usially was before. it shows only number of items & time, not the size, like this: 40672 items [116 days+20:03:52] in 3.262 sec
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Old 14th February 2007, 00:43   #13
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* Fixed: fullscreen video display drawing glitch
OMGSPLOSION! Thank you! Just this one is enough to make this the best release for long-time.

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Old 14th February 2007, 00:49   #14
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Old 14th February 2007, 00:52   #15
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For flac files, vorbis comments are used (Ogg Vorbis uses vorbis comments too)

Vorbis comments are a flexible tagging system.

More infos:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorbis_comments
I understand all that. I'm just wondering why, if the Vorbis comment specification allows each implementation to be flexible in what tag types (artist, title, track number, etc) are allowed, why not include most of ID3v2's fields? Maybe I'm just being blinded by the sheer amount of fields available when editing an ID3v2 tag in Winamp compared to a Vorbis tag, I don't know. It just seems odd to me.
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Old 14th February 2007, 06:47   #16
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@ Desides
You can use the Edit Selected Item(s) feature of the Media Library to edit those fields, and they will actually be written to the Vorbis Comment tags in the actual FLAC files.
It's just that the Nullsoft FLAC plugin is based on the reference FLAC plugin from sourceforge.net, and alas, the internal editor was/is pretty limited.
I expect us to eventually get a feature implemented similar to that of the in_vorbis editor where you can add/edit extra fields (eg. via: hide/show special fields / advanced mode).

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can't see filesize (Gb) in the bottom of the library window, as it usially was before. it shows only number of items & time, not the size, like this: 40672 items [116 days+20:03:52] in 3.262 sec
Oops... yeah.

Should hopefully be fixed for 5.34. Sorry.
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Old 14th February 2007, 10:53   #17
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benski.. for the record that bug I had with ATF and IPC_GETPLAYLISTTITLEW was due to passing the filename pointer returned from the IPC_GETPLAYLISTFILEW IPC to the ATF call.

Thus calling IPC_GETPLAYLISTTITLEW within the ATF processing caused the allocated filename to get deallocated by winamp I guess. The ANSI mode call wasn't a problem because I'm assuming Winamp didn't allocate/free strings on call to the IPC_GETPLAYLISTTITLE IPC.
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Old 14th February 2007, 11:05   #18
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New FLAC 1.1.4 support

I hope Winamp will add support for the new bugfixes and speed improvements in FLAC 1.1.4 release that is just out today.

See Josh's thread to get info about the new FLAC 1.1.4 release:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=52691

Keep up the good work guys! I appreciate your labor.
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Old 14th February 2007, 12:20   #19
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Help please. I had 5.32 on win98 se2 working perfectly.
Installed 5.33 and then if I select modern skin I get
WINAMP caused a stack fault in module SHLWAPI.DLL at 01b7:70a75048.
If I delete winamp.ini and run winamp it goes into classic skin no problem, when fails if I try to change to modern skin.
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Old 14th February 2007, 12:23   #20
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* Fixed: fullscreen video display drawing glitch
OMGSPLOSION! Thank you! Just this one is enough to make this the best release for long-time.
Yay!
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Old 14th February 2007, 12:47   #21
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Re: New FLAC 1.1.4 support

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I hope Winamp will add support for the new bugfixes and speed improvements in FLAC 1.1.4 release that is just out today.

See Josh's thread to get info about the new FLAC 1.1.4 release:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=52691

Keep up the good work guys! I appreciate your labor.
Winamp's FLAC encoding (which is where I believe most of Josh's development is going in to, isn't based on FLAC, but rather FLAKE. You can also find a thread about that over at HA.
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/...p?showforum=67

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Old 14th February 2007, 15:45   #22
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Re: Winamp 5.33 Released

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IMPORTANT

If you upgrade on top of an already existing version then, unless you backup the media library database first, you cannot go back to 5.32 or earlier. This is because the media library database in 5.33 is now saved in a unicode compatible format.

Methinks it would be nice to include -- in this thread -- instructions on HOW to back up the media library.

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Old 14th February 2007, 15:49   #23
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SI window - some colour themes don't match what's expected or are unreadable, seems to be missing a bitplane.

Very minor point - selected line colour in the ML not redrawn until next use when changing themes.

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Old 14th February 2007, 18:46   #24
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Winamp Standard is gone too?

BTW, I saw this suggestion at HA.org : Chapter support for enhanced podcasts.
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Something's up with the homepage, it's listing 5.32 again. Has 5.33 been pulled for more testing?
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Old 14th February 2007, 18:52   #26
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Help please. I had 5.32 on win98 se2 working perfectly.
Installed 5.33 and then if I select modern skin I get
WINAMP caused a stack fault in module SHLWAPI.DLL at 01b7:70a75048.
If I delete winamp.ini and run winamp it goes into classic skin no problem, when fails if I try to change to modern skin.
You say you had 5.32 working perfectly on SE - but by perfectly you don't mean you have the Sonic Rip & Burn feature working do you? ..because AFAIK the last version with the Rip & Burn feature working for W98SE is v5.2.1.497 and that's tested proven.
Yes it's true that the ReleaseNotes for v5.3.2.1003 say that:
* Fixed: CD burning with Windows 98/ME
But unfortunately was not completely true - it was better yes, but still would not work right in most cases.

I have not tried 5.33 yet
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Old 14th February 2007, 20:44   #27
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Desides:

The flac info editor really should look like the vorbis info editor, like Egg said.
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* Fixed: fullscreen video display drawing glitch
* Fixed: [vis_milk] multi-user issues
At bloody last.

BTW, the installer finally respects the selected visualization and won't set it to AVS after every install.
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Old 14th February 2007, 22:05   #28
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For those of us who've installed v5.33 and now find it's apparently been pulled, can anyone please explain why? Under what circumstances are we recommended to downgrade back to 5.32?

A couple of minutes ago, the site was back offering 5.33. Then a minute later it was 5.32 again..... (or are we in fact seeing the effect of unsynchronised web cache propagation around the net?)
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Old 14th February 2007, 22:07   #29
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(or are we in fact seeing the effect of unsynchronised web cache propagation around the net?)
Maybe, I guess it's the result of updating the main page. have a little patience and wait a few minutes, until all servers are updated.

5.33 is shown on the main page for me now, 5.33 is the recommended and supported version.
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Thanks. It's showing 5.33 again, but it definitely seemed to revert consistently to 5.32 for a period of a few hours earlier today. As you say, servers may be out of step.

Edit: and back to 5.32.... it must be taking some significant time to sync the servers.
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Edit: and back to 5.32.... it must be taking some significant time to sync the servers.
Exactly.
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Thanks. It's showing 5.33 again, but it definitely seemed to revert consistently to 5.32 for a period of a few hours earlier today. As you say, servers may be out of step.

Edit: and back to 5.32.... it must be taking some significant time to sync the servers.
It's been see-sawing back and forth for hours now and the website's skin browser is FUBAR, so I'm guessing it's a server issue.

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We're having some problems related to the website. Hopefully they should be resolved soon. The problems are unrelated to Winamp 5.33
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Re: Re: Winamp 5.33 Released

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Methinks it would be nice to include -- in this thread -- instructions on HOW to back up the media library.
Zip/Rar/Tar/Compress/Copy the Winamp folder. Then when you botch it up you can just restore the back up you made. I do this once a week to make sure than when I screw it up next I can just restore it. I do believe that there is a tech support stick on how to back up your Winamp installation.

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Old 15th February 2007, 12:55   #35
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I edited the instructions in the first post to include a "backup" link.

But basically, for the ML, all you need to copy/backup are:

- Winamp\Plugins\gen_ml.ini
- Winamp\Plugins\ml folder

or for the local media database, specifically:

Winamp\Plugins\ml dir:
- main.dat
- main.idx
- recent.dat
- recent.idx

But yeah, it can't do any harm to backup the entire Winamp folder every now and then...

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Note: the location of the files depends on whether you chose 'shared' or 'separate' user settings in the installer options.

For shared, the default location (unless you changed it) is:
C:\Program Files\Winamp\Plugins\...

For separate, the default location (under Win2k/XP) is:
C:\Documents and Settings\(username)\Application Data\Winamp\Plugins\...

Note that the 'Application Data' folder is hidden by default, but you should just be able to type this into the Address bar:

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The website issues are obviously due to the fact that winamp.com is housed across more than one server. Deployment of the updated site is obviously failing to one or more of the group. Obviously, it means that depending on which server you hit (its all transparent so you wouldnt technically know which), you may get an updated site, or an older site.

No doubt it'll be fixed as soon as possible (if it hasnt been already).

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I edited the instructions in the first post to include a "backup" link.

But basically, for the ML, all you need to copy/backup are:

- Winamp\Plugins\gen_ml.ini
- Winamp\Plugins\ml folder

or for the local media database, specifically:

Winamp\Plugins\ml dir:
- main.dat
- main.idx
- recent.dat
- recent.idx
THANKS!! MUCH easier now that everything is here together.

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But yeah, it can't do any harm to backup the entire Winamp folder every now and then...
THAT sounds like a good idea too...

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Old 16th February 2007, 07:04   #38
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but is there something in the new version to limit the smart plalyst???
limit to mega or tracks?
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Not afaik, but i believe will was looking at extending it to allow for that.

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Old 17th February 2007, 16:12   #40
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OK, very good. This is the essential upgrade that I was waiting for, full unicode character support. Now there are two more items that should be added for unicode and tag support:
1. Full tag support particularly work (or grouping)
2. Diacritical independent search so when o is entered it finds all instance of o whatever the accent. I realize this is a big item, because finding all of the possible accents on a given ASCII character is a pain in creating the translation table. However just getting the European languages into the table would be fantastic.
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