Old 24th August 2007, 10:25   #1
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Swedish woman sued for smoking in her garden :D

From http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1811
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Swedish woman banned from smoking in her yard because neighbour is allergic
By MARCUS OSCARSSON

A Swedish woman has been banned from smoking in her own back garden because her neighbour is allergic to cigarette smoke.

The cigarette row has rocked the city of Akarpin in southern Sweden, where the Environment Court banned Ingela Olofsson from smoking in her yard after hearing that her neighbour - Michael Berggren, a lawyer - has to wear an oxygen mask when walking from the house to the car.

"This is insane," Olofsson said.

The row started when the lawyer bought the house next to Olofsson three years ago. Berggren says that he initially asked her to smoke somewhere else than next to his garden.

But the woman did not stop smoking, and the bemused city has watched as the friendly neighbourhood atmosphere degenerated into a catfight.

The neighbours stopped talking to each other and recently all the communication between them has occurred via their legal representatives - and the media.

"We have no other choice to enter or exit our house but passing the garden path that faces your house and we can therefore no longer accept that you poison our lives with your disgusting and unhealthy tobacco smoke," the lawyer wrote in an angry letter to Olofsson.

"The best thing is for you to quit," he added.

Olofsson also received a letter from Berggren's legal representative who informed her that the lawyer "had not been able to open the windows in two years due to the awful smell coming from the neighbour's yard produced by the tobacco smoke".

Berggren even claimed that he was forced to wear an oxygen mask when walking from the house to his car in the mornings and the evenings. He said that without the mask it took only seconds for the effects of the smoke to take hold, leaving him struggling for breath.

Surprised neighbours and friends have spotted Berggren walking with the oxygen mask in his own garden several times a day. "He is walking with the mask regardless if I smoke or not," Olofsson said.

"I was provoked by his actions, but now I do not care anymore."

The smoker was reported to the authorities and last week representatives from the Environment Court of south Sweden arrived in order to inspect the situation.

But Olofsson refused to participate. "I did not believe it made any sense at all. What were they supposed to do here? This is so ridiculous," she said.

The court representatives inspected Berggren's yard and established that it was fully possible to see Olofsson's yard when standing there.

So the action - which Olofsson had believed was just a bad joke - turned serious, with the Environment Court ruling she could not smoke in major parts of her yard.

"This is making me furious," she complained.

Since Norway banned smoking in all public facilities in June 2004, Sweden and Denmark have followed with similar bans.
ROTF@guy wearing oxygen mask
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Old 24th August 2007, 10:46   #2
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I hate smoke myself, but WTF? The guy can't handle smoke coming from the next garden, but he can live and work in the middle of the city??

The should get one of these to walk around the place and really make his point.

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Old 24th August 2007, 12:34   #3
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The court should have thrown this retarded case out
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Old 24th August 2007, 12:47   #4
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The court representatives inspected Berggren's yard and established that it was fully possible to see Olofsson's yard when standing there.

...Environment Court ruling she could not smoke in major parts of her yard.
Seems to me that the court hasn't ruled out her smoking in her yard - just in a major part of it, where it's not possible to see into the other guys yard.

She should hold little smoking parties in the hidden areas of her yard, invite all of her smoker friends over too. Even when she doesn't need to smoke, she should have little cigarette bonfires in the corner of her yard, etc....

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Old 24th August 2007, 14:36   #5
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The neighbour was allergic to the smoke, he wasn't just complaining for no reason, but still, kinda harsh.
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Old 24th August 2007, 14:40   #6
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don't smoke tobacco then, smoke mj or ice that'd piss off the neighbour.
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The neighbour was allergic to the smoke, he wasn't just complaining for no reason, but still, kinda harsh.
Yet he managed to live and work in the city?? Short of literally wandering around the place in a bubble, there's no way that he could be as sensitive as he claims to be.

Sounds to me that he got all pissy with the neighbour over something or other, and it escalated because he was an "elite lawyer"

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Seems to me that he should've bought a house somewhere else in the first place...
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The row started when the lawyer bought the house next to Olofsson three years ago. Berggren says that he initially asked her to smoke somewhere else than next to his garden.
Olofsson was there before he moved in, so he has no right to tell her to stop smoking. He can take his allergic ass and move somewhere else.
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Old 24th August 2007, 21:21   #9
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Yet he managed to live and work in the city?? Short of literally wandering around the place in a bubble, there's no way that he could be as sensitive as he claims to be.
I agree. I doubt there's any way that smoke could collect in so concentrated a configuration that it would affect the plaintiff the way he says it does.

Without more detailed information - which I acknowledge might change my position - I think his lawsuit is frivolous and childish.

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Old 24th August 2007, 21:41   #10
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My neighbor smokes. Right next to my house. The insensitive ass. I had to buy a fucking bubble to walk around in!

And, I have to roll my way to work like a hamster because I work near Detroit!

But really, my neighbor smokes. I can barely smell it. Even if he's got a few friends over and they are all going at it. This claim is a load of crap.
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I sued the airport for flying planes right over my house. They really should have quit that shit when I moved in.
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Old 25th August 2007, 21:14   #12
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i know wack jobs that claim they can smell cig smoke in a car driving past them or in front of them on the freeway. And they claim it bothers them. The should move to sweden.

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Old 25th August 2007, 23:56   #13
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I think they'd miserably fail an ABX test, and then whine that the ABX test reveals nothing anyway. Seems awfully familiar.

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I sued the airport for flying planes right over my house. They really should have quit that shit when I moved in.
AFAIK that's actually not legal if the plane is low enough you can hear it...

of course if you live out in the middle of BFN (butt-fuck nowhere) this law probably doesn't exist or apply, but i know it does here, at least in the cities.

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Old 29th August 2007, 23:37   #15
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of course if you live out in the middle of BFN (butt-fuck nowhere) this law probably doesn't exist or apply, but i know it does here, at least in the cities.
First of all: FAA law mandates a 500-foot AGL minimum altitude in rural areas, and a 1000-foot ALG minimum altitude for more highly populated areas.

Second of all: Chev was being sarcastic, and I really don't know how anyone could miss that.

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Old 30th August 2007, 01:51   #17
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Old 31st August 2007, 23:36   #19
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that'd get me high even if I was 7 cars back

Out here the crop dusters seem to almost touch the tassles of the corn when they fly over. They pull up just before the telephone wires which is a bit scary to watch.

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Seems to me the way they fly they might as well leave it go and fly under the wires. I have no idea why someone that good at flying do this instead of air force work - I'm on the edge of a tiny town, right where they pull up just before going into our bathroom window when I'm taking a shit. I find myself ducking or putting my hands up in a flinch like it would make much difference. They wouldn't be obeying the law even if the law were 500 inches let alone 500 feet. Fucking maniacs.

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If they fly under the wires, they take a chance at decapitation which has occurred several times in this state.
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Damn, what a way to go...

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Here today, we are experiencing particularly bad air quality. You'd probably be better off filtering the air through a smoke.
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Quite likely in some cities. Flying into LA you'd think it was dense fog until the pilot says conditions are "clear".

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