Old 11th December 2012, 08:36   #161
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Current cPro skins (running with the beta cPro2 engine) with separate play and pause buttons do not have that response for the pause button.
This is just for cpro2 skins (with the play/pause button). In cpro1 skins the user can just click play to restart the track but in cpro2 the play button change to a pause button when playing so can't click it. But you can right click the pause button (won't see the classic pause menu) and it will act like you clicked the play button.

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The skin provided with the cPro2 beta has a combo button and does not have that response.
Works here? Maybe we're misunderstanding each other here
The r-click behavior isn't for when the track is paused and you want to restart it (for that you'll have to stop play like you said). This is for when the track is playing (and the play button isn't visible anymore) and you want to restart the track without clicking stop>play.



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A few more hidden features - will document better later:
  • Right-Clicking the menu opens current folder
  • On the file info drawer, you can hover the options button and use the mouse wheel to change font size.
  • Right-Click the beatvis to change the animation
  • Double-Clicking the tab button will toggle the maximized mode (although I think theres still a bug somewhere because the tab button sometime moves out of place. Can't reproduce consistently)
  • Double-Clicking the statusbar in the Visualization tab (where the plugin name shows) will open the vis plugin chooser. (this was broken for cpro1 skins in an earlier release)
  • To change the classic vis in the shade mode, you have to dbl-click the area.
  • Right-Clicking the search provider area in the Web Reader tab will open the current page in your default browser.

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  • Some features might not be included in the cpro1 skins. This might be because the graphics in the skins doesn't allow for it or the feature isn't tested enough yet.
  • If people report that the "AeroSnap"-like feature is working good enough it will be added to cpro1 skins too. Not sure how it will work on a multi monitor setup yet

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Old 11th December 2012, 09:40   #162
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Works here? Maybe we're misunderstanding each other here
The r-click behavior isn't for when the track is paused and you want to restart it (for that you'll have to stop play like you said). This is for when the track is playing (and the play button isn't visible anymore) and you want to restart the track without clicking stop>play.

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A few more hidden features - will document better later:
I was misunderstanding how the feature works. That is cool, a restart without stopping or dragging the seek bar.

As to the other undocumented features, I had assumed more would be revealed with the final release. After all, 1.5 to 2.0 is a big step.

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Hi pjn123,

I apologize for being so late to the cPro2 development discussion. Thinking about the so called 'hidden features', I have the following concern. Maybe I'm out of touch with current practices, but I've come to expect right key presses to activate context menus rather than functions.

I fear some users would view the automatic right key functions as app malfunctions or mistakes on their part, rather than intended consequences. When I get a major new app or upgrade, I right click all over it to find the context menus. I would not expect (until now) a function change.

I know most don't read documentation, but all the automatic right key functions should be highlighted in the change/history logs. I believe the use of alternate mouse keys (right key and scroll wheel key) is a powerful and underused (or little known) resource for Windows apps. I have a multifunction mouse and find it very useful to program the extra buttons for various system and app related functions.

If this is a new direction in man-machine UI, I applaud you in taking these steps to further the cause. If it's not a new direction, thanx for helping me catch up to the times. Once learned, these functions would be faster to use than context menus.

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I fear some users would view the automatic right key functions as app malfunctions or mistakes on their part, rather than intended consequences. When I get a major new app or upgrade, I right click all over it to find the context menus. I would not expect (until now) a function change.

I know most don't read documentation, but all the automatic right key functions should be highlighted in the change/history logs. I believe the use of alternate mouse keys (right key and scroll wheel key) is a powerful and underused (or little known) resource for Windows apps. I have a multifunction mouse and find it very useful to program the extra buttons for various system and app related functions.
Don´t worry, right click functions were always there in winamp; "stop" button has it, "play" has it, "next" and "prev" too, even "open" has it. It is like this since the first Winamp Modern skin, cPro2 is just extending that, improving it, like it does to winamp in general..

The lacking part in this case is documentation, but that is just because this is beta, so it will be added when final release comes (I guess, that depends on pjn123).

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Don´t worry, right click functions were always there in winamp; "stop" button has it, "play" has it, "next" and "prev" too, even "open" has it. It is like this since the first Winamp Modern skin, cPro2 is just extending that, improving it, like it does to winamp in general..
Now that you have reminded me, I remember that that is true. There is an option to just run the top choice on the context menus. I've always chosen to show the context menus instead (sometimes I don't want the top choice) and I had forgot that. It's been quite a while since I first installed Winamp and updates just maintain the settings for the previous non-updated options. I'm also still learning the ends and outs of the cPro engine.

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Old 12th December 2012, 08:35   #166
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@Aminifu - The r-click functions is just there because it was the easiest way to add something. For example the beatvis - Cant click it because then the seeker change. Also didn't want it as a setting somewhere else because thats not how cpro1 worked. But added a tooltip to inform the user. Should add it at the few other hidden features too (not that there are too many).

[warning - boring stuff coming]The tooltip in the seeker for the beatvis was actually not as easy as it looks. Had to code it specially so that it looks like a normal tooltip. Normally when your mouse enter an object a tooltip can be shown by just using the tooltip="xx" xml param. But here the whole seeker is the object and you can only rightclick in the middle part to change the beatvis.

Can possible add more right-click/mouse wheel functions if it useful (dont have any ideas though). The right-click menu's on buttons like stop, prev, next are pretty useless FOR ME but I'm sure there might be that one person somewhere that will need it hehe.

@Victhor - A skin shouldn't need too much documentation but just a few pointers/tips should help. Maybe I should do a short youtube video sometime.

@moderator - Can someone with powers please update the first post by replacing it with post 153
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Hi pjn123,

As you see, Victhor reminded me that Winamp has supported automatic r-click functions for some time, so it is me who has failed to keep up with things. I'm one of those few who find context menus useful, even on stop, prev, next, etc.

As for the beatvis, isn't it usually the case that when you change one thing to please someone (moving the seek bar to the top), it causes a problem somewhere else. Good that you have the skill to work it out.

I had disabled tooltips (guess its time to turn them back on for a while), but I see that the one on the beatvis shows up anyway. It is a good way to alert users of new functions, but once they know about them will there be a way to turn them off. I hate to nit-pick, so that will be the last one. For a while, anyway.

For an app like Winamp, it's usually fun to fool around and learn new things about it. The cPro engine does bring new things to the game. I'm sorry I took so long to try it.

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Old 19th December 2012, 17:34   #168
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Hi pjn123,

It's too bad that the idea behind 'MusicShow' didn't catch on. I think it would be way cool to add the 'Skin Focus' feature that is in the 'MusicShow' skin to cPro2.

What do you think? Is it even possible?

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Old 19th December 2012, 20:04   #169
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The focus is just a gray background that could maybe be implemented with a widget for cpro. But have been a while since I had MusicShow on my pc... must probably install it again and just double check how it was done.

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The focus is just a gray background that could maybe be implemented with a widget for cpro. But have been a while since I had MusicShow on my pc... must probably install it again and just double check how it was done.
Yes, its like the effect you can get with a UAC prompt. This request is more of a wish list kind of thing to be looked into later. Please don't let it interfere with your more important 'To Do List' items for cPro2.

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@moderator - Can someone with powers please update the first post by replacing it with post 153
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should be done now (having pm'd a moderator would have gotten it done sooner as no one really monitors these threads).

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Old 21st January 2013, 13:41   #173
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Currently slowly working the cPro2 XUI into my cPro-minimal skin.

It seems like the Web Reader and Media Library objects are taller then the side drawer.
Their bottom edges are not aligned.
I can overwrite the height of the Web Reader through sendparam but can't do for Media Library as it has no h parameter.

Is this a design of cPro2?

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Hi iron2000

Glad to hear it (about the new skin in the pipeline that is )

I can't see what your talking about (maybe my skin here dont show it that good) - Can you maybe post or PM me a screenshot of the problem. If it isn't aligned then it will be fixed for the next version so you wont have to hack it. Also planning my own proper skin with the cpro2xui object to test drive it and make sure there isn't any bugs. This will hopefully take shape next week.

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Compared to cPro, cPro2 is a bit more restricted (but in another sense less images to change).
If only there are more ids for the objects to open up overwriting via sendparams.

minimal with cPro2 XUI is pretty much skinned up (but theres still a lot of cleanup to do), one problem left is that in cPro2 both main status buttons and drawer status buttons are mapped to sui_comp_buttons.png.
In cPro both have their own png.

The buttons I use for the main status buttons doesn't look good on the slim drawer status bar.
So I tried ways to make the slimmer status bars thicker.

I tried to change the height of some of the components (e.g make the playlist object shorter).
Worked for drawer Visualization but not the sidebar's.
Didn't work for drawer playlist, the playlist did become shorter but I can't touch the rect background as it has no id (wanted to make it higher as the status bar is a different color).

It would be best if theres a 'switch' somewhere to allow the drawer status buttons to have their own png when the skinner needs it. Or maybe the drawer status buttons will follow another png when it is present in the directory.

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cPro2 was always going to be a bit more restricted for the skinner maybe but I think there is still enough room for a skinner to manipilate the UI enough to create some very cool skins. I'm thinking of the ClassicPro.xml file that now includes more power. Since the infoseek area is one of the most important make or brake parts of the skin you can move the text you see there around if you need to or change the size or style off coarse. Further more the seeker don't have to overlay the complete infoseek area. I did a quick mock up in the sc forum of a possible cpro2 bento skin that can maybe demonstrate this:
http://forums.skinconsortium.com/ind...6020#post26020

Secondly cpro2 isn't suppose to be a replacement for cpro1 skins. We just experimented with a new layout that I think is very easy to work with especially since I like the fact that I can easily grab the seeker and the skin also resize to very small sizes now.

While I was busy with the new version I split the new layout side and the sui section side of the code that wasn't possible to do in cpro1 skins. This will probably be more useful for experience skinners like you that really like to do allot of modifications to the original cpro1 layout. There might someday be more cpro2 xui skins than plain cpro2 skins :P (I'll also try to demonstrate how easy it is with my first cpro2 xui skin)

Now since this is still in beta there is probably still a few bugs in the new cpro2 xui object but I'm currently building my own skin to testdrive the whole progress. With your feedback we'll also be able to "iron" the bugs out

As for the status buttons. This was done to save a few resources and to save the skinner some trouble in doing the same buttons twice.
Are you suggesting that the main area, bottom drawer, side mini area and side playlist each have their own statusbar + button gfx? Or just main, drawer+mini and playlist?
If you want you can maybe send me a screenshot of the skin like it is atm and then one where you changed the skin in photoshop to illustrate what you want to achieve at the end. Maybe I can then look at it and see what the best way will be to tackle this.

PS about objects id's:
I know some objects don't have id's. I only added id's normally if there was a script that worked with that object. Also in cpro2 more of the objects are placed dynamicly (mostly due to the fact that the frame_player.png can have any height).

If you want you can change the source code in the xml files to add id's to objects you would like to access. I'll then include your changes in the next build? But hopefully after your illustration above there will be a easier way to do things since another objective of cpro2 was also to not require skinners to do so much mods to achieve small things like a shadow or different images for a button light (for colortheme purposes).

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So far theres no problem with the infoseek stuff, using only the XUI component I can design the other elements around it as I like

The only restrictive area is within the XUI component, to get it to fit the design of the outside elements.
I need some time to take screenshots, tidy up my thoughts and maybe offer some suggestions on the status buttons.

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Old 28th January 2013, 14:22   #178
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I've setup a thread for the skin at the SC forums and posted screenshots there.
Got to put it down by today or I'll procrastinate :P

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ClassicPro v2.01 Final (28/02/2013)



We’re proud to announce ClassicPro 2 is finally ready and is now out of beta stage!

Thanks for all the help by email, forum and pm’s. If you have more ideas (and feel that we might have forgotten a few of yours) feel free to bring it up in the comment section below.
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Then remember to check all the new ClassicPro2: SUI skins. These type of skins allows the skinners to create their own custom layout but let cPro take over the single user interface using the XUI object. More info here.

Currently there are 3 such skins in development/available:
(cPro2 - divx by MerTcaN | cPro2 - Winamp for Mac Sync by pjn123 | cPro2 - minimal by iron2000)


What's new since previous beta release?

Version 2.01 Final (28 Feb 2013)
  • cPro 2
  • New: Now also support preset window positions (shift+F9-12 to set)
  • Updated: cPro2__Aluminum v1.3 (new themes and lots of other improvements)
  • Fixed: If Winamp load on zero volume, volume jumps up (sc_mute)
  • Fixed: More buttons with transparent bits don't always work
  • Fixed: Classic vis doesn't always go to thin bands on small width
  • Fixed: File info viewer layout broken if you hide first tag
  • Fixed: Playlist search toggle overlay doesn't hide on small widths
  • Fixed: Alignment of status bar buttons (thx Mertcan)
  • Fixed: Playlist search box background color
  • Fixed: Button fade shows wrong hover image when you toggle button with shortcuts
  • Improved: File info viewer layout order now same as Winamp
  • Improved: File info viewer added option to use smaller size
  • Improved: File info viewer resource optimization
  • Changed: Tab icons now have 3 states (see cPro2 - Aluminum)
  • Changed: Gammagroup of the Open/Close drawer buttons changed ("n.sui.buttons")
  • Changed: Widget Manager header image
  • cPro 1
  • New: Right-click on main menu button to disable menubar (maybe more options later)
  • cPro 1&2
  • New: Added more options to multibutton (Winamp bolt right-click)
  • Fixed: About current skin crash on newer Winamp builds
  • Fixed: Skin notifier sometimes no longer appearing
  • Improved: Quick Playlist now use screen size to calculate menu height
  • Improved: Widget Manager notifications now only once globally and not per skin
  • Improved: Now Playing widget now have right-click options menu (v1.01)

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Hi pjn123,

Thank you very much for the fixes and additions to cPro 2.01. Everything is working great on my system, except for 1 thing.

Right clicking on the main menu button does not disable the menubar on the cPro 1 skins that I use on occasion (cPro_Bento and cPro_MPxi_remix). Instead the right click activated the function of a 3rd party plug-in that I use. The cPro_MPxi_remix skin does not have an actual main menu button, but if I right click in the upper left hand corner I get the same response.

This general purpose plug-in is called "Find File On Disk" (written by DrO). It opens Windows Explorer to the folder(s) containing the currently selected song file(s) and selects it(them) in the folder(s). It can be activated with the "Ctrl+F" hotkey or via a command added to the Playlist Editor's context menu.

The stranger thing is that this right click behavior continued even after I deleted the plug-in and it also works this way with the new cPro2_Aluminum v1.3 skin too. However, the hotkey does not work and the context menu command is not present when the plug-in is not installed. So is this a bug, an undocumented feature, or a previously reported feature that I'm not aware of.

The find-on-disk feature is useful, but it is unexpected to have it activated this way.

The ability to remove the File, Play, Options, View, and Help menu buttons (on skins that use them) is a minor issue, imo. Something that would be nice to have, but not a must have option. In addition, if the cPro_MPxi_remix window is made narrow enough, these buttons are not displayed anyway. I assume all cPro 1 skins, with these buttons, work that way.

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Old 1st March 2013, 09:56   #181
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Oops my fault for bad documentation

[cPro 1]
- New: Ctrl + Left Click on main menu button to disable menubar (maybe more options later)

The right click on menu button opens the folder and selects the current playing item without DrO's plugin. This works on both types of skins.

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Ok, Ctrl + Left Click works. You are forgiven for the documentation error.

Good news about the find-on-disk feature also, I'm glad it's available. But I think I will keep using DrO's plug-in, for as long as it works. (DrO has stopped plug-in development for the foreseeable future and removed his work from his website). It is convenient to have a hotkey and a playlist context menu command is more intuitive than a right click on the main menu button (or area), imo.

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what is cPro using to open the folder and select the file?
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Thanks for the 1st post update!

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i meant is it using the explorer.exe /e hack or the proper api that XP and newer Windows versions provide (SHOpenFolderAndSelectItems(..) ). as ffod (and recent Winamp versions as i integrated the ffod core into Winamp a while back) uses the correct method based on the OS version being used.

really there is no need for ffod to be used / provided anymore - is only adding a menu item on all Winamp versions since the plug-in core was implemented in Winamp directly (accessed via the api_explorerfindfile.h wasabi api). might as well just add the menu item into Winamp natively and kill off that plug-in...
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ffod is now dead and the remaining parts are native to winamp.exe / gen_hotkeys. need to get koopa to remove it from the EP, though the main Winamp installer will at least remove the plug-in now.
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No sorry don't have the source code for that system file. All I know is the first time (per run) the function doesn't work 100% - It opens the folder but doesn't select the file, but if you call the function again it works correct until next closing of Winamp. So maybe a hack was used

Would be nice if the ffod function was accessible stock standard and maybe a function in maki too (I use the dbl click on album cover a lot) - This build in Winamp code will probably not have the bug mentioned above.

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Old 1st March 2013, 14:14   #188
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anything able to access the wasabi services can access it, is just maki where it's not and i don't have the time (or inclination) to add that - the ffod killing was a simple copy + paste of my code into winamp natively (and saves me having to support it anymore).

and it shouldn't have any of those selection issues as i spent too much time over the years on the core of the dead plug-in making sure that it would work correctly (against what the OS and it's API support).
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Old 10th March 2013, 16:05   #189
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Hi pjn123,

Nullsoft has released the first public beta of the new Winamp version 5.7. Thank you for providing a fix for the disappearing notification window problem. This has plagued me for some time and I really appreciate you finding a solution.

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Old 13th April 2013, 14:42   #190
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Hi pjn123,

Now that cPro 2.0.1 and your first XUI skin have been released, are you feeling a little post-release let-down? I always did after finishing a major design/coding project. After being focused so hard for so long, I felt like a 'fish out of water' the first week or so.

Great work! Much appreciated. I use the enhanced UI features everyday.

If you are feeling like looking into something else, how about that bit of eye candy discussed in posts #168 thru #170 above.

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Old 16th April 2013, 11:34   #191
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Haha that's what's happening to me!

PJN is more or less "there", but bussy with some "real life" /"hard worker 's" problems. Maybe he could tell you better (when finally solves his internet connection issues hehe).

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Hi,

I have noticed some unexpected hotkey responses. Wondering if these responses are intended or are bugs.

Alt+W does not shift focus from a sub-window to the main player or collapse/expand the overall window.
Alt+E switches to the playlist editor from another window then between the playlist editor window and the media library window.
Alt+Q switches to the queue manager from another window then between the queue manager editor window and the media library window.
Alt+V switches to the video from another window then between the video window and the media library window.
Alt+X switches to the browser from another window then between the browser window and the media library window.
Alt+L switches to the media library from another window then between the media library window and the video window.

Alt+V and Alt+X respond the same way in the Winamp Bento skins, but the others do not (they provide a collapse/expand function).

Since the cPro sub-windows do not collapse, I think these responses are intended. But having the Alt+L switch to video is a surprise.

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"Site Suspended - This site has stepped out for a bit"

Does it happen only to me? Since 2 days I cannot visit the website of Skin Consortium anymore, not in Firefox, not in Chrome, also not on Frank's PC. I get this message:
"Site Suspended - This site has stepped out for a bit"
I had registered on 23rd April, because many members from deviantART and the Winamp Forums are also on Skin Consortium, and I had sent over 30 friend-requests. 4 days ago I had counted already 4 friends.
I wasn't online in the Winamp Forums for 24 days.
If necessary, then this post can be splitted out into a new thread and moved into the right directory of "Skinning and Design", I will add a headline to my post by edting it...

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There's no need to do a new post, it's a general error while loading the page, maybe Martin is doing something on the site (unlikely) or it's just down due to a bandwidth excess. I'll write Pieter to see if he knows something (though he may take a while to respond..).

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I had already started the downloaded plugin ClassicPro_2.02_beta2.exe, but then I was asked to delete studio.nxf & winamp.ini. Is the deletion of them both really neccessary? I have cancelled the installation, for now. Also I want to know, if C > Programs (x86) > Winamp is the right installation path.

I have some cPro- & cPro2-skins in my final selection incl.:

cPro2_-_Winamp_for_Mac_Sync.wal
cPro2_Dark_Aluminum_by_Victhor.wal
cpro2_styler_beta_1_by_victhor.wal

And they are waiting in a subfolder in D > SabineKlare2 > Dokumente2.

I could try it again on the next evening. At midday I will not be at home...

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you don't have to remove those files and i'm not even sure why it's enabled by default - since it'll wipe _all_ skin and Winamp customisations which have been made (is about as bad as what CCleaner does to Winamp installs).

am sure there's a reason why which someone directly involved with cPro might be able to clarify the reasoning behind such a weird default option.
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I don't want to have the Winamp Skin Settings & Customisations get wiped out, of course. It was many work on the media library panes.

I have already made the next backup after getting 2 new long MP3s. I need a little bit sleep now...

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No no, you are not prompted to delete studio.xnf and winamp.ini, you are OFFERED to (off by default). I suppose it's just in case you are re-installing cPro due to some previous problems / issues (even then, most of the time just a normal re-install is enough).

So, leave those options unchecked and click "Install". And have fun. And discover a new world of Winamp skinning (¿?). And get some sleep .

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Hi Sabine,

Only delete those files if you want to start with a 'clean slate', i.e. force Winamp to revert to it's defaults. In general, never delete (or make a lot of changes to) a configuration file without first making a backup (to provide a means of comparing before and after and a quick way to recover from bad results).

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I am trying to write, although I am live on air now in Mixlr with my dedication-broadcast (via the Mixlr app on my PC).

4 days ago I have installed ClassicPro_2.02_beta2 on my PC (Vista) & my notebook (Win7). A 4th cPro2-skin came into the skins folder:
cPro2__Aluminum.wal

Okay, on both computers I can load all 4 cPro2-skins, but if I try to load the cPro-skins, I see only the Widgets Manager and no skin. It doesn't matter, if I have maximised the cPro2-skins or not. I can imagine, what would happen, if I would uncheck the Widgets Manager and if I would forget to check it again, before I would change from a cPro2-skin to a cPro-skin. It would be terrible, if the Winamp window would become invisible for me. By right-clicking in the Widgets Manager I can still change to another skin.

The 2 old XP machines from 2004 are standing in the edge, one of them doesn't work anymore since 2007, and the monitor from the other one is dead now, too (November 2013 another monitor from Frank for his Vista machine had died, both monitors were from 2004). I can only tell, what I see on Windows Vista and on Windows 7, but I don't know, how it would behave on Windows XP.

I am glad to see at least the cPro2-skins working, and I have one of them in the tests right now...

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