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[tapi0]

Originally Posted by bgd

I have faithfully relied on Winamp as my primary music player for a full 20 years now (how time flies!) and have during all this time never ever faced any real issue with it, whether bug-related or performance-related. I have yet to try it out on Windows 10 (I'll leave that for my next laptop in line) but it runs as smooth as ever on my current Windows 8.1 laptop...

I'm using Winamp 5.666 on Windows 10 and it's running good!

[tapi0]

Originally Posted by Sabine Klare

Again I say: Nobody can force me to uninstall Winamp and to install another media player. As an adult I can make my own decisions what I want to have on my own computers.

My Winamps on my PC and notebook both work fine, and of course Winamp will be needed also for the future on Techno Parties and other Live Events. Also now Winamp is used for creating new music-videos for YouTube.

For me the Llama is not dead, the Llama is still alive. I myself believe, that the Llama will not die.

BTW, on 21st April 2017 we will have the 20th B-Day...

I like that too when no one can take my Winamp away from me.

It would be sad if Llama dies. Let's hope not.

Hmm...big B-Day coming...are we going to get big hard present then? :P

[tapi0]

Originally Posted by cukls

I've been rocking whatever the last version for so long, no issues! But now that I've gone to 5.666, Winamp won't recognize my android phone when I plug it in. I'm using another app for that until I figure out if it's something I did wrong, or it's just Winamp. Otherwise, I agree, Winamp is definitely MY music player, and has been as long as I've had a computer!

I also can't figure out how to queue up music anymore.... now that I think about it, 5.666 was just a disaster for me! I better find an older version to install.

You have the newest version in use?
It's Winamp 5.666 Build 3516.

[Sabine Klare]

For Winamp 5.666 Build 3516 You need the in_mp3.dll from the previous build (Build 3512), which You can get from here:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....373755#updates

Then Winamp should work.

I myself remember the previous Milkdrop Versions of the previous Winamp Versions. I did all my edits on my PC with Milkdrop 2.25c (it exists only in the newer Winamp Versions). And I am very satisfied with my edits which work also on my notebook.

[GorillaCat]

Aparently we're waiting for radionomy's legal department to do stuff before the beta comes out. https://twitter.com/ed_rich/status/817065613411713025

[Aminifu]

Originally Posted by Sabine Klare

For Winamp 5.666 Build 3516 You need the in_mp3.dll from the previous build (Build 3512), which You can get from here:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....373755#updates

Then Winamp should work.

...

You can use the patched installer of the current Winamp version to update your installation. It contains this dll file and a few other updates. Download links for the patched installer are listed in post #2 of this thread.

[musicf8]

Originally Posted by GorillaCat

Aparently we're waiting for radionomy's legal department to do stuff before the beta comes out. https://twitter.com/ed_rich/status/817065613411713025

Oh god... Considering how slow radionomy has been... and legal departments take forever... ugh...

[Psykoen]

Originally Posted by bgd

While I do wish that there would have been an Android version of Winamp, this developmental hiatus for Winamp has had absolutely no effect on my Winamp usage on any of my past or present Windows machines.

I have faithfully relied on Winamp as my primary music player for a full 20 years now (how time flies!) and have during all this time never ever faced any real issue with it, whether bug-related or performance-related. I have yet to try it out on Windows 10 (I'll leave that for my next laptop in line) but it runs as smooth as ever on my current Windows 8.1 laptop...

Feature-wise, there's really not much I could wish for that's not already there - I even prefer the default theme over all those fancy-looking custom ones. Granted, the equalizer is pretty basic but ever since 2001 I've been using an analog-style DSP plugin called "iZotope Ozone for Winamp" which I still to this day find to be the single best sound-enhancing feature I've seen in any music player. That's really the only Winamp plugin I've ever needed, all the rest comes with Winamp itself by default.

So, bottom line, if you're a Windows user I'm not sure that you necessarily would even need any updates for as long as the latest Winamp release (version 5.666) is able to run on the latest Windows release. My only reason for checking into this website and forum now after all these years was in order to see whether there was perhaps any Android version in the plans. Of course, it's somewhat of a bummer that there isn't any ongoing development and thus no Android version. But nothing will change on my Windows machines, I'll still be using Winamp on them for many many more years to come...

if you go to download page there is a apk for android

[Aminifu]

Originally Posted by bgd

...

I have faithfully relied on Winamp as my primary music player for a full 20 years now (how time flies!) and have during all this time never ever faced any real issue with it, whether bug-related or performance-related. I have yet to try it out on Windows 10 (I'll leave that for my next laptop in line) but it runs as smooth as ever on my current Windows 8.1 laptop...

Feature-wise, there's really not much I could wish for that's not already there - I even prefer the default theme over all those fancy-looking custom ones. Granted, the equalizer is pretty basic but ever since 2001 I've been using an analog-style DSP plugin called "iZotope Ozone for Winamp" which I still to this day find to be the single best sound-enhancing feature I've seen in any music player. That's really the only Winamp plugin I've ever needed, all the rest comes with Winamp itself by default.

...

I'm also a contented, long time, Winamp user (over 17 years) on a Windows desktop computer. The current patched version runs great on Windows 10. I never tried Windows 8 or 8.1.

I also used the free version of the "iZotope Ozone for Winamp" plug-in for several years, until I discovered it prevented the winamp.exe process from shutting down when Winamp was closed. All the visible Winamp windows closed, but the Windows' task manager showed that hidden inactive winamp.exe processes were still loaded. Restarting Winamp would take longer and the task manager showed that 2 or more winamp.exe processes were loaded. So, whenever I shutdown Winamp, I had to use the task manager to shutdown any winamp.exe processes that were still loaded. I was using Windows 7 at the time.

I could not determine if it was the Ozone plug-in alone causing this or it's useage in combination with other 3rd party plug-ins I'm using, and/or if the Winamp version (that was current at that time) had anything to do with this. It may have been related to the restrictions Windows placed on writing to certain folders and the registry that started with Windows Vista. The old Ozone plug-in wanted to refresh it's registry entries when it was shutdown. Anyway, I now use the free version of the "Stereo Tool" DSP plug-in (http://www.stereotool.com/). It comes the closest to matching Ozone's performance, imo. However, it does cause Winamp to use significantly more of the CPU (from peaks around 3% to over 20%).

I intend to keep using Winamp for as long as possible. I've been monitoring the developmental progress of DrO's (former Winamp master developer) unofficial updates, which are still in the beta stage (https://getwacup.com/). Recently, the current Winamp owners have been trying to hinder DrO's work (forcing him to use a different website), possibly trying to prevent a fork of the Winamp app from occurring.

Unfortunately, it appears that any update of an official or unofficial Android version will not happen any time soon.

[skribb]

Originally Posted by bgd

While I do wish that there would have been an Android version of Winamp, this developmental hiatus for Winamp has had absolutely no effect on my Winamp usage on any of my past or present Windows machines.

I have faithfully relied on Winamp as my primary music player for a full 20 years now (how time flies!) and have during all this time never ever faced any real issue with it, whether bug-related or performance-related. I have yet to try it out on Windows 10 (I'll leave that for my next laptop in line) but it runs as smooth as ever on my current Windows 8.1 laptop...

Feature-wise, there's really not much I could wish for that's not already there - I even prefer the default theme over all those fancy-looking custom ones. Granted, the equalizer is pretty basic but ever since 2001 I've been using an analog-style DSP plugin called "iZotope Ozone for Winamp" which I still to this day find to be the single best sound-enhancing feature I've seen in any music player. That's really the only Winamp plugin I've ever needed, all the rest comes with Winamp itself by default.

So, bottom line, if you're a Windows user I'm not sure that you necessarily would even need any updates for as long as the latest Winamp release (version 5.666) is able to run on the latest Windows release. My only reason for checking into this website and forum now after all these years was in order to see whether there was perhaps any Android version in the plans. Of course, it's somewhat of a bummer that there isn't any ongoing development and thus no Android version. But nothing will change on my Windows machines, I'll still be using Winamp on them for many many more years to come...

Cool, I've never heard of Izotope before - gonna tryit out. I've always used OctiMax and Volume Logic (stacked). They are the best sound enhancers/DSPs for Winamp i've found.

Volume Logic is the successor to OctiMax but OM is a DSP and VL is a general plugin so they can be used in tandem. They're both by Plantronics (IIRC it was a small swedish developer who made the algorithm and was acquired by Plantroincs) but stopped being supported in 2010 or something.

[tapi0]

Talking about plugins...Do you know good one for surround?
I have 2 front speakers and 2+1 rear speaker.
Like to make that rear speakers sub to work with Winamp.

[musicf8]

Originally Posted by tapi0

Talking about plugins...Do you know good one for surround?
I have 2 front speakers and 2+1 rear speaker.
Like to make that rear speakers sub to work with Winamp.

i've played with a few in the past, but tbh I believe using the soundcard settings if you have a sound card that handles all your channels

[Aminifu]

Originally Posted by tapi0

Talking about plugins...Do you know good one for surround?
I have 2 front speakers and 2+1 rear speaker.
Like to make that rear speakers sub to work with Winamp.

I use "WinampMatrixMixer" (https://sourceforge.net/projects/win...ixer_0_9_163d/). It is an output plug-in that directs it's output to another Winamp output plug-in. I use the Nullsoft DirectSound Output v2.64 (out_ds.dll).

WinampMatrixMixer lets you reconfigure the 2 channels (stereo) or single channel (mono) coming from your source files into up to 6 channels for output to your sound device (front left, center, front right, rear/side left, rear/side right, and subwoofer). The matrix (based on AC3Filter) can configure itself automatically or you can set it up manually to fine tune how much of the source file channels (1 or both) gets sent to each of the desired output channels.

Here is a link to info on the matrix and how it can be configured (http://www.ac3filter.net/wiki/AC3Filter_Help).

[tapi0]

Originally Posted by Aminifu

I use "WinampMatrixMixer" (https://sourceforge.net/projects/win...ixer_0_9_163d/). It is an output plug-in that directs it's output to another Winamp output plug-in. I use the Nullsoft DirectSound Output v2.64 (out_ds.dll).

WinampMatrixMixer lets you reconfigure the 2 channels (stereo) or single channel (mono) coming from your source files into up to 6 channels for output to your sound device (front left, center, front right, rear/side left, rear/side right, and subwoofer). The matrix (based on AC3Filter) can configure itself automatically or you can set it up manually to fine tune how much of the source file channels (1 or both) gets sent to each of the desired output channels.

Here is a link to info on the matrix and how it can be configured (http://www.ac3filter.net/wiki/AC3Filter_Help).

Thanks! That one did the trick.
Now my surround system is working with winamp too.

[xmuzack]

Kind of not related to this thread, but from time to time I'll download another music player, try out their skins and always get frustrated they can't do what Winamp does. The latest being Musicbee to try it's Milkdrop support. I always end up uninstalling those and happily fire up my Winamp. The latest version 5.666 is as good as new to me still. I can wait patently for the new and improved Winamp.

[kadir]

thank you ..

[dynamicradio]

Originally Posted by GorillaCat

Aparently we're waiting for radionomy's legal department to do stuff before the beta comes out. https://twitter.com/ed_rich/status/817065613411713025

This does sound slightly concerning. I'm hoping the legal side is basically ensuring all AOL stuff has been removed which I suppose would make sense. I hope it's not Radionomy trying to cause issues. Many have been concerned that Radionomy didn't really want Winamp but had to purchase it in order to get hold of the SHOUTcast technologies and have had no interest in continuing Winamp's development. However I'm optimistic that this year could be the year of the lama.

[hellomynameistim]

Where can I buy Winamp Pro?

[charbonnier]

Originally Posted by Sabine Klare

Again I say: Nobody can force me to uninstall Winamp and to install another media player. As an adult I can make my own decisions what I want to have on my own computers.

My Winamps on my PC and notebook both work fine, and of course Winamp will be needed also for the future on Techno Parties and other Live Events. Also now Winamp is used for creating new music-videos for YouTube.

For me the Llama is not dead, the Llama is still alive. I myself believe, that the Llama will not die.

BTW, on 21st April 2017 we will have the 20th B-Day...

I still use winamp... I don't find anything better ! Sorry for autotag, by the way I use Picard when I need

[Sabine Klare]

"Autotag" can bring unwanted results. I had used it once and then never again.

The software Mp3tag is very useful, and I can tag a whole album very quickly. Of course the track numbers and the titles should be left individual for each song while other tags can be changed for all songs. And I myself download the album artwork manually in Firefox, from SoundCloud, Bandcamp, Discogs etc.

The CDs can be ripped with Goldwave or with EAC, and the second one is for free.

[cybersaga]

Originally Posted by hellomynameistim

Where can I buy Winamp Pro?

You can't right now. Why do you ask?

[spam23]

I'm using 'Dopamine' at the moment until something happens with Winamp. Not the drug, the music player. It feels a lot like a newer version of Winamp. I highly suggest giving it a try.

[dianakean]

I am still using winamp too, I always play Benalla radio on it and listen to a lot of music. The best software. Old is gold.

[liza]

Originally Posted by dianakean

I am still using winamp too, I always play Benalla radio on it and listen to a lot of music. The best software. Old is gold.

Thanks for sharing this, i just might try this out. Sounds like a genuine review, so hey..why not!

[bgd]

Originally Posted by Psykoen

if you go to download page there is a apk for android

Thanks! I somehow missed that link...

Originally Posted by Sabine Klare

Again I say: Nobody can force me to uninstall Winamp and to install another media player. As an adult I can make my own decisions what I want to have on my own computers.

My Winamps on my PC and notebook both work fine, and of course Winamp will be needed also for the future on Techno Parties and other Live Events. Also now Winamp is used for creating new music-videos for YouTube.

For me the Llama is not dead, the Llama is still alive. I myself believe, that the Llama will not die.

BTW, on 21st April 2017 we will have the 20th B-Day...

Making Youtube music videos with Winamp? Wow, I actually never thought of that. I'll have to try that out myself

Originally Posted by Aminifu

I also used the free version of the "iZotope Ozone for Winamp" plug-in for several years, until I discovered it prevented the winamp.exe process from shutting down when Winamp was closed. All the visible Winamp windows closed, but the Windows' task manager showed that hidden inactive winamp.exe processes were still loaded. Restarting Winamp would take longer and the task manager showed that 2 or more winamp.exe processes were loaded. So, whenever I shutdown Winamp, I had to use the task manager to shutdown any winamp.exe processes that were still loaded. I was using Windows 7 at the time.

I could not determine if it was the Ozone plug-in alone causing this or it's useage in combination with other 3rd party plug-ins I'm using, and/or if the Winamp version (that was current at that time) had anything to do with this. It may have been related to the restrictions Windows placed on writing to certain folders and the registry that started with Windows Vista. The old Ozone plug-in wanted to refresh it's registry entries when it was shutdown. Anyway, I now use the free version of the "Stereo Tool" DSP plug-in (http://www.stereotool.com/). It comes the closest to matching Ozone's performance, imo. However, it does cause Winamp to use significantly more of the CPU (from peaks around 3% to over 20%).

I use the full version of the Ozone plug-in and I've never experienced these issues. It could very well be a conflict with another plugin (I basically only use the Ozone plugin) - either that or the free version behaves differently from the registered version on startup/shutdown. I'll go and try that other plugin you've listed just for the heck of it, to see out of curiosity how it stacks up against iZotope Ozone (it would take a lot for me to change though).

Originally Posted by skribb

Cool, I've never heard of Izotope before - gonna tryit out. I've always used OctiMax and Volume Logic (stacked). They are the best sound enhancers/DSPs for Winamp i've found.

Volume Logic is the successor to OctiMax but OM is a DSP and VL is a general plugin so they can be used in tandem. They're both by Plantronics (IIRC it was a small swedish developer who made the algorithm and was acquired by Plantroincs) but stopped being supported in 2010 or something.

iZotope Ozone for Winamp (its full name) is definitely worth a try! It's not your average plugin, it emulates an analog amplifier. You'll either love the concept or you'll hate it but, either way, the resulting sound output is top-notch...

Originally Posted by xmuzack

Kind of not related to this thread, but from time to time I'll download another music player, try out their skins and always get frustrated they can't do what Winamp does. The latest being Musicbee to try it's Milkdrop support. I always end up uninstalling those and happily fire up my Winamp. The latest version 5.666 is as good as new to me still. I can wait patently for the new and improved Winamp.

That's pretty much my story as well. I did occasionally (especially early on) habitually try out other alternative music players, thinking that I would eventually find something even better since that was the case for all other types of programs, but I always ended up returning to Winamp. As I mentioned earlier, I'm now in my 20th year of using it and it's the only program that has stuck with me for all these years - everything else I've pretty much changed and upgraded beyond recognition by this point.

[lostinsound]

Originally Posted by spam23

I'm using 'Dopamine' at the moment until something happens with Winamp. Not the drug, the music player. It feels a lot like a newer version of Winamp. I highly suggest giving it a try.

Just gave it try and I really like the look and feel of it and the flexibility with organizing the music. It doesn't seem to have gapless playback or replaygain so I can't see myself switching to it though. It definitely has potential.

[Sabine Klare]

About the Winamp-Milkdrop-Videos on YouTube, I have very much music-playlists with these music-videos:
https://www.youtube.com/user/Sternen...bine/playlists

Of course You need also a screenrecorder, Fraps, Camtasia, Hypercam or MAGIX Video 17 Deluxe Premium (or another version number), although MAGIX records with the double speed and I have to play the song twice. I had bought MAGIX on the old-fashioned way, for the other screenrecorders online-banking is required, and I still don't make online-banking. There is also a tutorial in the forums how to turn off the flickering, if Milkdrop should run on the desktop.

@ bgd , maybe we will see us on YouTube...

[CthulhuSaves]

There are music players other than Winamp?

Nah, don't care...

[ksenit13]

thanks!!!

[tapi0]

I use Winamp only to listen streams and mp3's from my HD's but it's the best for that IMO.

[llandyw]

A couple bits of interest.

Someone mentioned in a previous post that they are dismayed that Winamp was never produced for Android.

Well, I have had Winamp for Android quite some time now. It certainly isn't full featured, and is somewhat cumbersome to use, but it is (or was) available. Since I got it a long time ago, it still shows up in the list. However, I don't know if those who don't already have it can still get it. Anyway, the link to it is:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ullsoft.winamp

The other item.

The patent on MP3 has expired. While code from specific individuals and companies may still be copyrighted, new code can be developed by anyone now that the patent is no longer in effect.

That means Winamp can still play mp3s without having to pay a licensing fee to a patent holder. Still have to write the playback code, but that shouldn't be too hard to do. I know someone who wrote code for it just this past weekend in order to use MP3 with the games she develops.

[musicf8]

Wait... Winamp is still in the play store? I thought they removed it...

Anyway, anyone who is a fan of Winamp should know that there was a winamp for android. Should they ever create a winamp app for android worth using imo, then i'd gladly use it as my primary player.

[llandyw]

It's there, but as I said, it might be available only to those who downloaded it before it was removed. That's how I got the link was by going there from the icon given to me when I looked at the My Apps list.

[twc]

RemoteControl for Winamp
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...eControl&hl=nl

[tapi0]

Nice to know about but atleast I don't need that.
Good if there is someone in need.

BTW. You should have remove that language prefix from the URL...we are not all from netherlands you know. https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....RemoteControl

[GorillaCat]

I've been using GoneMAD Music Player for a while, it's perfect aside from a bug that changes my eq preset every time I open it. Worth every penny.

[jesseg]

Originally Posted by skribb

Cool, I've never heard of Izotope before - gonna tryit out. I've always used OctiMax and Volume Logic (stacked). They are the best sound enhancers/DSPs for Winamp i've found.

Volume Logic is the successor to OctiMax but OM is a DSP and VL is a general plugin so they can be used in tandem. They're both by Plantronics (IIRC it was a small swedish developer who made the algorithm and was acquired by Plantroincs) but stopped being supported in 2010 or something.

It pretty much stopped being supported when the company was sold to Plantronics, which was long before 2010.

Leif Claesson, the developer, has kept very active since then. His "Linear Acoustic" processors handle around 85% of all TV now. He also has several processors with the #1 brand "Omnia" who does FM, AM, DAB, streaming, etc.

There's also been several flavors of "Breakaway" which is his consumer and broadcaster software audio processors for over 10 years now. The broadcasting versions have been unified into a single version that can have various combinations of licensing added to it, which you can find here: http://www.breakawayone.com/

The consumer version hasn't been updated to his new development framework yet, but you can still get that here: https://goo.gl/HiQ5rL ( claessonedwards.com ) for the silly low price of 30 bucks. To put that into perspective, a closely comparable broadcast audio processor from 20 years ago was $16,000 (one that's still used on the air in "hand me down" markets).

The next big update of Breakaway for consumers will likely be an APO so the users don't have to fiddle with buffer settings, routing through virtual soundcards, etc... which is over most people's heads. Not so much the people on this forum but the public at large yes.
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/win...essing-objects

Cheers

[skribb]

Originally Posted by jesseg

It pretty much stopped being supported when the company was sold to Plantronics, which was long before 2010.

Leif Claesson, the developer, has kept very active since then. His "Linear Acoustic" processors handle around 85% of all TV now. He also has several processors with the #1 brand "Omnia" who does FM, AM, DAB, streaming, etc.

There's also been several flavors of "Breakaway" which is his consumer and broadcaster software audio processors for over 10 years now. The broadcasting versions have been unified into a single version that can have various combinations of licensing added to it, which you can find here: http://www.breakawayone.com/

The consumer version hasn't been updated to his new development framework yet, but you can still get that here: https://goo.gl/HiQ5rL ( claessonedwards.com ) for the silly low price of 30 bucks. To put that into perspective, a closely comparable broadcast audio processor from 20 years ago was $16,000 (one that's still used on the air in "hand me down" markets).

The next big update of Breakaway for consumers will likely be an APO so the users don't have to fiddle with buffer settings, routing through virtual soundcards, etc... which is over most people's heads. Not so much the people on this forum but the public at large yes.
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/win...essing-objects

Cheers

Thanks a lot for the info, I forgot about Breakaway. Your post made me remember tho. I remember trying it out, but the virtual soundcard thing put me off it. I also recall it didn't sound any better than OM or VL (which might have been because of incompetence on my part).

[AudreyBlair]

Winamp is currently a 32-bit program, so you need to install the 32-bit version of ffdshow, not the 64-bit version, regardless of whether your OS is x64 (64-bit version has "64" in the filename, 32-bit version doesn't, heh).

[motox22a]

Agree with others...Winamp is already pretty much perfect (to me)...
But hey I'm kinda old school...