Old 20th March 2017, 15:03   #1841
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I've been using GoneMAD Music Player for a while, it's perfect aside from a bug that changes my eq preset every time I open it. Worth every penny.
Of all the players I have tried, GoneMAD is far and away the best player on Android. You can do a lot with customization on it. I used to see the equalizer change on restart once in a while but that hasn't happened in some time. If you make sure to hit the save button to save the preset I've had better luck.
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Old 20th March 2017, 17:45   #1842
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Winamp still plays 99 percent of mainstream audio formats and it works under Windows 10 just fine...It also works under Linux using Wine just fine...About the only thing that really needs done (Other than those that feel it needs some sort of cosmetic update) is to get it to work on Android...If there was an Android version of WINE then it may be possible to get it in it's current form to run under Android as well since my understanding of Android is it's just Google's customized version of Linux..But I'm not a programmer so I don't know what the real differences are...Since I'm not a smartphone user the Android thing is not big for me...I do have an Android media box and have JETAUDIO PLUS installed on that which actually is quite good...Unfortunately the additional plugins also cost money...I'll probably buy those (eventually)....

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Winamp was released by Nullsoft in 1997 and sold to AOL 2 years later. It has been over 9 years since the last major update of Winamp's core code. Hardware and software coding techniques and APIs have evolved a great deal since then.

The Winamp desktop app (after 19 years) and many of it's plug-ins only work as well as they do because Microsoft must continue to support legacy code as much as possible.

After 2007, AOL decided not to invest in any more major updates of the desktop app's core code. A relatively brief effort (during 2010 and 2011) was made to port Winamp to other platforms. A major attempt to fix several 'bugs' in the Winamp desktop app's core code was completed in 2013.

Winamp's current owner (sold to Radionomy in 2014) seems to have made the same investment decision related to major upgrades. It appears that any major upgrades (or plug-in support) going forward will depend on hacks by clever 3rd party developers.

I started using Winamp in 1998 and have tried many other apps since then. IMO, it is still the best available app (mainly due to it's support of plug-ins) for playing and managing many digital music formats on the Windows desktop.
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Old 20th March 2017, 18:38   #1843
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If there was an Android version of WINE then it may be possible to get it in it's current form to run under Android as well since my understanding of Android is it's just Google's customized version of Linux.
There was a demonstration of running wine under android, but in terms of having it run on a phone platform I don't believe it would function that well because winamp was made for a desktop platform.

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Yes but with the proliferation of Android Media Boxes that would justify it. On a big screen TV using an android media player that's not an issue. (Using a wireless keyboard and mouse that is as that's still the easiest way to maneuver)...
Oh yes...It would need to be able to run on a non-Intel/AMD CPU as well (As I don't think WINE is going to fix that)...

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Old 20th March 2017, 20:37   #1845
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If you make sure to hit the save button to save the preset I've had better luck.
I have my presets saved the thing is that it changes the eq to the next one on the list or flat without showing the change by changing the current eq name. I have a workaround though, just duplicate your preferred eq and name it in a way that it shows up next on the list. Shame they don't have an iOS app, switched phones and I'm stuck without it

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Old 26th March 2017, 13:09   #1846
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Old 26th March 2017, 13:40   #1847
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Here is the long list of things that have happened since I last posted any development news.....







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Old 26th March 2017, 14:34   #1848
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Thank you for posting something and being honest.
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Old 28th March 2017, 17:21   #1849
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Can you not try and get Radionomy to open source Winamp? It's getting clear that if they had ANY plans in the product or getting money from it they aleady would as the original post was around three years ago.
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Old 28th March 2017, 17:26   #1850
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Can you not try and get Radionomy to open source Winamp?
again, open source doesn't mean there would be any more development. Though while I could see DrO taking up a lot of it, he is already doing enough even with the source closed.

Radionomy should have reinstated nullsoft prior to AOL shutting it down, because supposedly nullsoft was profitable up until it was shut down, but instead they basically just grabbed the shoutcast code they wanted and stiffed the loyal fans of winamp

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Old 28th March 2017, 18:39   #1851
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Radionomy should have reinstated nullsoft prior to AOL shutting it down, because supposedly nullsoft was profitable up until it was shut down, but instead they basically just grabbed the shoutcast code they wanted and stiffed the loyal fans of winamp
AOL did not shutdown Nullsoft. Nullsoft was the very small company that created Winamp and they shut themselves down many years ago. After Winamp was sold to AOL in 1999, most of the original developers moved on to other things rather than work for AOL. Basically, Nullsoft should now be thought of as a brand name. A lot of the core code still in Winamp is updated or patched code that Nullsoft created and released in 1997.

AOL made money with Winamp mostly thru click-on ads. In the US, some of these ads were in Winamp itself. Most of the ads were on websites that Winamp linked to thru it's online services and on the Winamp home website itself (websites sponsored/hosted directly or indirectly by AOL). Some money was also made thru selling the Winamp Pro version.

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You are correct, though sometimes I get confused when nullsoft really shutdown because of all the changes that happened in AOL (and I believe it is still reflected in the about screen w/ a copyright).

I guess Nullsoft unofficially ended when JF left in 2004. I dunno, all this crap still confuses me. Should 5.8 ever be released it would be interesting to see the credits because for all I know, the only person that appears left is DJ Egg.

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Old 29th March 2017, 05:29   #1854
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someone should leak the Winamp source
yeah and start lawsuits for other people using said leaked source code.

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Old 29th March 2017, 20:36   #1855
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Here is the long list of things that have happened since I last posted any development news.....










I would love to see new version of Winamp, who do we have to bribe to let it happen.

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yeah and start lawsuits for other people using said leaked source code.
isnt the reason why we still haven't seen new version cause "legal" issues certain parties need to deal with, but have been yet? could swore I read that if not for that a beta would been released by now?
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isnt the reason why we still haven't seen new version cause "legal" issues certain parties need to deal with, but have been yet? could swore I read that if not for that a beta would been released by now?
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Not sure what the US has to do with anything, Vivendi is a french multinational company, and radionomy is based out of belgium, and do you honestly believe that they can't find a way? Huh... guess that's why nobody ever gets busted for using copyrighted material across countries....

Even DrO got a legal letter for just using the winamp name

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DrO isn't the only one who's had a friendly warning from Radionomy for using the name or distributing old shoutcast/winamp software.



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Old 31st March 2017, 20:53   #1860
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That's such a bummer. I was wondering though... if there were to be any developers with some free time, can they become involved? I know this isn't an open-source project, but I feel that there has to be at least a couple who are willing to put in some TLC into Winamp and breathe new life into it.

In other words, is Radionomy hiring?
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Old 1st April 2017, 10:41   #1861
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i think something realy necessary for Winamp in windows version is casting audio/video to network device such as TV . i think if this feature added most of previous customer that left over Wp come back soon.
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I have just seen the postings #1858 and #1859.

Names are legally protected, and this applies to all products in this world. A friendly warning is definitely much better than if there is suddenly a complaint before court. Especially the music world is full of court processes. And I am coming from the music world...

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Old 2nd April 2017, 00:51   #1863
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Businesses must protect their intellectual properties and take at least some form of action if they are violated in some way. Not because they are bad and oppressive, but because they are required by law to do so or they can lose the right to them if they do not.

Sure some take this further than others but so it is with everything. As long as smaller infringements are handled "with a friendly note", it has been handled as it should be.
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That's such a bummer. I was wondering though... if there were to be any developers with some free time, can they become involved? I know this isn't an open-source project, but I feel that there has to be at least a couple who are willing to put in some TLC into Winamp and breathe new life into it.

In other words, is Radionomy hiring?
From DJ Egg's comments, it seems that the hold-up at this point isn't man-power, it's lagalities. So more developers won't help.

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From DJ Egg's comments, it seems that the hold-up at this point isn't man-power, it's lagalities. So more developers won't help.
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I don't think it's really legal, I think it's mostly "TPTB". I assume it's the lack of interest in the product on their part. It's not like they really gave a damn about it in the first place. Let's be honest, if they actually cared about the winamp product, then they would have given us something by now, be it a beta program or a damn site update. All I know that they have accomplished and released is taking over shoutcast, updated the shoutcast site, and that's it. They haven't really done **** in regards to winamp or the site.

Now I am not saying that there is no 5.8 beta, or anything, I def trust DJ Eggs word on it all, im just saying that after getting rid of all the developers (tmk) that worked on winamp, it says a lot. I wouldn't be surprised if they just outsourced the beta development and then never really gave it much thought after that.

But these are all opinions and assumptions, mostly because zero information has been released on who is developing it or any changes (besides removal of licensed code) or anything.

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Old 9th April 2017, 18:16   #1867
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I just finally went through the entire registration process only to say - I WANT MY WINAMP.
I still use it, every day, I mean it really _whips the Llamas ass_...seriously... but it needs bugs updated. I can rarely get it to connect to my computer (staying die-hard with win7, screw Cortana...we didn't get along). Most of the time Winamp just doesn't detect my phone anymore (Samsung Galaxy 5). I can wait hours for it to do so - no luck. So I cannot update my playlists. It randomly loses my playlists and lists no songs in them.

Even with all this it's still #1. Why? It doesn't SHOVE random not-mine songs into the middle of my playlists. It doesn't shove other people's music in my face. I want to listen to what I want to listen to, when, and in what order. That should be simple. Winamp offered that.

All other apps are about shoving new sales of new artists into your face (ears) when you're just trying to go about your day wanting to listen to your playlists. I want my winamp full support and updates back. Winamp will always be Llama Ruler. *much love*
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Well that's just a bummer. I'll just have to either download Winamp somewhere else or just listen to SHOUTcast for the time being.
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Old 9th April 2017, 23:34   #1871
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Check the first page of this thread

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This. Not sure why you would want to download winamp from some random source

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Do they not want it released? Sounds like they aren't that invested in winamp
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When I got into the http://www.winamp.com/ page I thought "Oh yeah! New version would be released soon". Then redirected to the forums and now... i'm just disappointed
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As someone mentioned above, I also use Audacious (with classic Winamp skin) on Ubuntu 14.04:
- you can get bit-perfect output with it (like WASAPI exclusive mode on Windows): the sound quality difference is huge! (compared to the shitty Pulse-audio driver)

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I'll give it a try...Does it replace the Pulse Audio Driver? I don't want to default back to ALSA for other stuff. I'm not sure how that would work for my other Audio Applications (including Duplex stuff like Skype) but I'll definitely check it out...I always image with Clonezilla so I can check out new stuff and if it doesn't work out I can quickly reimage...Thanks for pointing this out...

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- you can get bit-perfect output with it (like WASAPI exclusive mode on Windows): the sound quality difference is huge! (compared to the shitty Pulse-audio driver)
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I'll give it a try...Does it replace the Pulse Audio Driver? I don't want to default back to ALSA for other stuff.
No, you don't have to and we can't get rid of Pusle Audio (it's so integrated) since 14.04 (?).
It's individual application setting, so you can set it in every audio/video player (Audacious, Clementine, SMPlayer, etc.) that supports it.
In Audacious, under Audio output:
- ouput: Alsa
- device: hw:0:HDA, direct hardware acces without samplerate conversion
- mixer: hardware master mixer

With this you'll get bit-perfect audio, means exclusive mode: other device can't access to the audio device until playback goes.

Maybe you can make the same work with Winamp (with WinE (?)), I haven't tried. If you managed to do so, let us know

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Blasphemy...But Mikey likes it!!!

On my desktop PC I had to use HW 2,0 USB as I'm using a USB DAC to play to desktop speakers..

You can stream bluetooth using Audacious by using the PulseAudio Volume Control after starting another audio app (Winamp for example)...Then select your Bluetooth speaker (in PAVC) after establishing a link to it in BLUEMAN...Then once that's working...Close the audio application and open Audacious...Then select PCM Default in Audacious which will fall back to the bluetooth speaker you were just playing...

Glad to see my Winamp NucleoLog Skin works fine and the extra benefit is that the Nucleolog graphic equalizer is used instead of the very basic audio equalizer in Audacious...

Visualisations from Winamp appear to not be supported as I tried copying my Analog Meters visualisation over to the Audacious folder usr/share/Audacious but it's not picked up in the Audacious interface (I tried both in the root directory and also making a profiles folder)...

The audio does seem cleaner than Pulse Audio (especially noticeable when wearing headphones)...

On my Laptop I was able to just use the default HW 0 Direct Hardware without any conversions setting.

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