Old 18th August 2003, 01:34   #41
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Linkin Park: it's all in the studio, if you like that that's your problem. They _suck_ live. Period.

I agree with dlinkwit on Limp Bizkit. They were good until they hit it big.

Creed, Godsmack, Nirvana, Metallica, Slipknot, all overraten imo.

Personally, I think the Beatles were the beginnings of the first boy band. They played their own instruments and wrote their own songs, so they still count as artists in my book, but the legions of screaming girls that drove their record sales gave the record companies teh first inkling of an idea for a boy band as you see it today, imho.

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the difference is that the Beatles lasted longer than three years.

The Beatles aren't overrated, they are just media whores now, the two left, anywhoo. Ringo is a loser, a mediocre drummer at best. Paul McCartney carries flags he doesnt understand and told Michael Jackson to invest in music, so the freak outbid him on all the Beatles copyrights.
The Beatles were the greatest band. I have yet to see a better band, but nowadays its all smoke and mirrors.

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The Rolling Stones always struck me as being overated. Just beacuse you have big lips it doesn't mean you can sing.

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i thought they were overrated too, until I started listening to their music. get 40 licks and listen to it a while, you might discover something you love.

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the rolling stones were fantastic songwriters, but i'm still sceptical about their actual ability to play. it seems that covers of rolling stones songs seem to realise the songs a lot better, to me...

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Old 18th August 2003, 18:11   #46
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i dunno... whenever i hear Satisfaction i have to get up and dance like that guy in Apocalypse Now.

[edit] /me goes off to play the song... i can't resist it

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Don't get me started on the Beatles. Any band that chooses Ringo Starr as a drummer has serious issues

Can't think of any overrated acts, I'm not too much into the metal/new rock bands thing. Now, Coldplay are a much better band than Radiohead : I hate their rock numbers but some of their ballads like 'The Scientist' or 'Trouble' are superb.
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Old 19th August 2003, 12:03   #48
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The best thing about Coldplay's their name. I can't stomach Martin's voice! You shouldn't be allowed to have depressing lyrics delivered with desolate vocals, it's enough to send the most optimistmic of people on a downer. Or are they funded by Glaxo & Pfizer?

Coldplay remind me of another overated act - Starsailor.

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I've noticed that my fave bands usually have a lead singer with a 'love it or hate it' voice : The Cure, The Smiths, Placebo, Muse...
I'm not FOND of Coldplay but the singer is OK, imo
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The voice is a big factor. Beautiful music & clever lyrics mean nothing if you can't stand the vocals. If Coldplay had another vocalist I'd probably love 'em. As it is, I can't stomach it.

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Morrissey's voice positively freaks me out, but that doesn't stop me spinning The Smiths.


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Nirvana was overrated. Kobain knew the difference between himself and John Lennon. Shame half the country doesnt.
i really don't see john lennon as any better musically than kurt cobain. both as good - and as bad - as one another, in my opinion.

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both thier lyrics struck a major cord with the public at the times. Lennon was considered almost a music god because what he wrote about was the way the nation felt at the time. Very influential.

You may be right, though. meh.

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Lennon was considered almost a music god because what he wrote about was the way the nation felt at the time. Very influential.
this applies to cobain, too, though... he wrote about what his generation felt, and showed the emotion through the haphazard music of nirvana - the raw, harsh yelling and guitar-playing coupled with the occasional mumbles and lazy arpeggios expressed an apathetic generation who inside longed to be something else, even if that meant yelling and being violent to be noticed. in my opinion.

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Ah yeah, Pulp. They specialised in unexciting music ('Common People') but were lauded. Why?

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Ah yeah, Pulp. They specialised in unexciting music ('Common People') but were lauded. Why?
Damn, I remember buying a 2-cd best-of of them. Still have to get past song 3 of cd1
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Sorry for resurecting that bad memory! I always considered Pulp to be the butt-end of Britpop.

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Again, I didn't really notice Pulp ever being lauded, hyped, or rated. Same goes for a band some people have mentioned called "tool". Who the hell are they?


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Again, I didn't really notice Pulp ever being lauded, hyped, or rated. Same goes for a band some people have mentioned called "tool". Who the hell are they?
You don't remember the days when Jarvis Cocker was on the front of NME every other week??? When every other song on the radio was 'Common People' (the other song being 'Wake Up Boo!'). I think the Pulp album (don't remind me of the name) was highly rated ny Q, Melody Maker & NME, and finished in the top 10 in all 3.

I think 'Tool' are a boyband or something.

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i find that most people who play an instrument, and listen to louder music, like tool. other people tend not to "get" them.

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their albums always seemed kinda off-on... some good songs, but not very consistent.
I can almost agree with you there zoot-ster. The Beatles' albums are pretty much a product of an orchestral/big band producer learning the ropes of how to capture a new "sound" in the studio.

And I will only mention in short passing their forging of new studio techniques that pre-echoed the new technologies in today's modern recording studio.
You knob-twisters know exactly what I mean.

Their original songs, on the other hand, spanned a broad range of styles that were never tailored to conform to the "trend of the day".

Even their covers brought out a new voice to some old musics. In effect, they (along with other Brit-rockers) gave Americans, who would otherwise have never heard it, a taste of their own "black" music and it was GOOD!

Overrated?
Sure, to some; everyone becomes a "toss-up" in these discussions.
But seeing them in the "big picture", I cannot include myself among them.

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3 more overated acts:

Kings of Leon (crap)
The Jets (crap)
Cooper Temple Clause (crap)

Yet someone's out there buying records.

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I wonder no one mentioned any of the boy-bands here................very good!

All pop music is good music but all good music isn't pop music
Wanna know more about pop music or my boy-bands?
Westlife / Backstreet Boys / Savage Garden / NSync / Michael Learns to Rock
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there's a differance between overated acts and plain stupid acts

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Boy bands aren't rated in the first place apola. So, you shouldn't see much West Life bashing going on here.

In theory...

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Boy bands aren't rated in the first place apola. So, you shouldn't see much West Life bashing going on here.

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Very funny 'seer!!

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the beatles might be slightly overated.. but they are still an absolutley nsano band.. I personaly wouldnt say overated at all.

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..hhmmm.... I to think the Beatles are over-rated. I have all the albums, they made great music, but they weren't the be-all and end-all that some make out. The same goes for Nirvana. The Rolling Stones aren't overrated, mainly because I don't think they were ever rated. They were over shadowed by The Beatles. From their formation until about 1972, The Rolling Stones were a fanastic band, after that...sh*te.

I'm glad no one has mentioned The Beach Boys because that would mean....

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Sorry about all the smilies...but I've some I like and I'm having fun.

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Nirvana are very overrated in my opinion, and semantics, don't ever say anything bad about bon jovi. ever.


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their albums always seemed kinda off-on... some good songs, but not very consistent.
We must be talking bout a differnt "the beatles". The beatles influenced too many bands to count, and kicked off the music industry by making it part of EVERYONES life, but they also were just as imaginative and talented song writers as any band i know today. Especially considering the amount of predecessors they had to draw influences from.
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The roses were over-hyped, bot not overated. No way! We're talking some of the best guitar music of all time.

You reminded me marvin, the Beach Boys are well overated. Terrible surf-board trash.

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the stone roses were totally overated... especially the debut album.. what is so good about it.. its lame.. and then the follow up took 6 years or something..

the beach boys?? you obviously haven't heard pet sounds... the recording techniques were way ahead of the time.. like sgt peppers..
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the beach boys?? you obviously haven't heard pet sounds... the recording techniques were way ahead of the time.. like sgt peppers..
Apparently it's the best album of all time. Bah!!!!!

With regards to the Stone Roses, cast your mind back to '89. A landscape of tacky house music, early rave, Jason & Kylie, Shakespear's Sister, London Boys (need I go on).... Then you had the roses' debut.

It opens with 'I Wanna Be Adored', closes with 'I Am the Ressurection'. All the songs in between are crap, but who cares? Second Coming is a much better album, but unfortunately Blur and Oasis were running the show then. It was tragically overlooked.

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In 1989 you were listening to Def Leppard, Aerosmith, Rush and Magnum... yeah you were not listening to that list you quote there - that was your older bros domain.. (right said fred etc.!!)

The stone roses would of turned out different if they had be signed by the best label in the world.... Factory.. problem is Mr Wilson called them too Gothic!

Also pet sounds the best album of all time? no chance - its a good album, but nothing more..
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The stone roses would of turned out different if they had be signed by the best label in the world.... Factory.. problem is Mr Wilson called them too Gothic!
As if Joy Division and early New Order weren't!!!!

This is the man who signed 'A Certain Ratio'.

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