Old 8th July 2002, 09:02   #1
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WinDude on CNN

after checking through my local news, i noticed something that has shocked me to the core!
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2002/WinDude/
i'm so sorry for doubting you windude, i only hope they go easy on you, your a good man, you will never be forgotten..
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Old 8th July 2002, 09:22   #2
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Old 8th July 2002, 09:35   #3
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Funny shit! You should change the title too though...

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",.News of these events reached New York headquarters on Monday, July 8, at 6:34 a. m. ET."


Thats funny. its only 5:45 am EST here.


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are you saying America's news leader is WRONG?
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Old 8th July 2002, 10:55   #6
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this could be slightly more belivable but you have failed, The govt know where i am but they can not see me through my wiremesh hole.

they have satelites that can read the print on your newspaper if you left it on the lawn. they don't have to pay for their news

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Are you aware that as an NRO agent and winamp moderator, I am currently viewing your IP and your city of residence?
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Old 8th July 2002, 11:53   #8
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depends which city i've blue boxed from. try trace me

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you know, you could at least make the title say cnn.com instead of naoneo :P

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depends which city i've blue boxed from. try trace me
You're from the UK, and unless I'm very much mistaken, the UK changed to CCITT7 for signalling, which makes it pretty damn difficult to blue-box...

And by the way, your ISP, energis, create broadband connections over the national grid, so congratulations my friend, you've just hacked a 10,000+ volt AC power line, turning you into the first burned-to-a-crisp member ever to post in the winamp forums.

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depends which city i've blue boxed from. try trace me
its amusing really, because BT switched their phone system to digital back in the late 1999, blueboxing doesnt work in england on BT lines, nor does it work on NTL or any of the other phone companties, the system whereas a synth box dials a tone into your line via the microphone also means that you either live in a telephone box, or have a landline, which, even if you did manage to bluebox and patch through to elswhere, can still be traced quite easilly, bluebox's never stopped people from being found, it meerly slowed down the process, and since you do not know how to patch on an outgoing call, nor do you know of an empty line (because in england, where you live, unlike america, lines that arent used are cut off at the crossover box to save on connection resolution for others linked at that box)

please dont attempt to supply some argument supporting your post, it's really not needed.
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you know, you could at least make the title say cnn.com instead of naoneo :P
true john, but then it wouldnt be much of a joke , and besides, he reacted bad enough as it is, the guys weord, he'd probably shoot himself if he thought it was real.
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okay, so we've now established that he is living in a tinfoil-lined telephone box - must be a bitch on those warm summer days, windude

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depends which city i've blue boxed from. try trace me
Blue-box? Please. Yo must be referring to your link-sys hub.

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Look, you don't believe me when i say that i believe you. I will try to prove it:
1.Up until 1969, the USAF have admitted to doing UFO research, in a project called project bluebook.
2.The FBI have admitted that leaked "Highly Confidential" documents were covered up with the story that they were false.
3.There is conclusive proof that Governments are exerting some form of mind control over us. For example, a recent surver (April this year) of 1200 americans showed that 1% of them showed symptoms of mind control.

You don't just pick this stuff off a quick search on the internet, you should know this. I have been doing intensive research into conspiracies since 1999.

I do believe you and i hope you start to believe me.
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Old 8th July 2002, 15:00   #15
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Project Bluebook and Majestic 12 are both real things, Majestic 12 live in Dreamland, a floating island (ok maybe not a real type of island, more like a plane). They watch down on us and consist mainly of the shadow govt. they hide everything from us

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I KNOW! that is what i am saying, i believe you, and yet you still doubt me! WHY?!
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Project Bluebook and Majestic 12 are both real things, Majestic 12 live in Dreamland, a floating island (ok maybe not a real type of island, more like a plane). They watch down on us and consist mainly of the shadow govt. they hide everything from us
wow O.o, their fueltank must be huge, either that of the refuling planes are shot down after completing their task, No whitnesses
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i bet he has a home-made version of Enigma too, made from corn on the cob and stickle bricks, much more effective then email eh?
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Because you have to type it like this for him to understand it....

thanks ethan, i'll try to remember that next time.
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I find myself afraid....afraid for the need of biometric keyboards, I have this incapacitating fear that someone will use my computer for nefarious purposes, such as Osama bin Laden breaking into my house while I am away, and using it to hack the Frito-Lay site. We must have a keyboard to avoid such terrorist threats to our freedoms.
The keyboard has to read our fingerprint signature with each keystroke when we run our favorite apps remotely from the NSA database to make sure that terrorist pirates aren't using photoshop to plan out the next hijacking. Also to remotely play our favorite Britney Spears record. By the way I now get my records free from the RIAA. How you may ask? Simply put, rather than pirating the records off of the evil terrrorist Napster, I just signed away the right to my DNA structure. Who needs it anyway? I sure can't think of any need. Especially since DNA is a supestitious myth created by satanic scientists to distract us from our Divine Mission for God who created the heaven and earth in SEVEN days...the dinosaurs were just put there to test our faith in Our Divine Heavenly Father. Therefore, abortion should be made criminal and an act of terror.

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I find myself afraid....afraid for the need of biometric keyboards, I have this incapacitating fear that someone will use my computer for nefarious purposes, such as Osama bin Laden breaking into my house while I am away, and using it to hack the Frito-Lay site. We must have a keyboard to avoid such terrorist threats to our freedoms.
The keyboard has to read our fingerprint signature with each keystroke when we run our favorite apps remotely from the NSA database to make sure that terrorist pirates aren't using photoshop to plan out the next hijacking. Also to remotely play our favorite Britney Spears record. By the way I now get my records free from the RIAA. How you may ask? Simply put, rather than pirating the records off of the evil terrrorist Napster, I just signed away the right to my DNA structure. Who needs it anyway? I sure can't think of any need. Especially since DNA is a supestitious myth created by satanic scientists to distract us from our Divine Mission for God who created the heaven and earth in SEVEN days...the dinosaurs were just put there to test our faith in Our Divine Heavenly Father. Therefore, abortion should be made criminal and an act of terror.

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I find myself afraid....afraid for the need of biometric keyboards, I have this incapacitating fear that someone will use my computer for nefarious purposes, such as Osama bin Laden breaking into my house while I am away, and using it to hack the Frito-Lay site.
I find myself afraid too, afraid that some morning I'm going to wake up, look across at the vacant apartment next door, and see someone like you move in. Whatever about making some sense in previous posts (it's relative, folks), you seem to have completely lost the plot in this thread.

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We must have a keyboard to avoid such terrorist threats to our freedoms.
I'd like you to have one of these keyboards just for the peace-of-mind of knowing where you are at any given time.

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The keyboard has to read our fingerprint signature with each keystroke when we run our favorite apps remotely from the NSA database to make sure that terrorist pirates aren't using photoshop to plan out the next hijacking.
Yes - I'm sure that they use photoshop to plan all of their terrorist activities....



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Also to remotely play our favorite Britney Spears record..
Isn't that cute....

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By the way I now get my records free from the RIAA. How you may ask? Simply put, rather than pirating the records off of the evil terrrorist Napster, I just signed away the right to my DNA structure.
Ooooh.... single-cell organism, how nice.....

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Who needs it anyway? I sure can't think of any need. Especially since DNA is a supestitious myth created by satanic scientists to distract us from our Divine Mission for God who created the heaven and earth in SEVEN days...the dinosaurs were just put there to test our faith in Our Divine Heavenly Father.
That may be, but I for one am still hoping for darwinian selection in this case.....

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God who created the heaven and earth in SEVEN days...the dinosaurs were just put there to test our faith in Our Divine Heavenly Father.
No NO! you are totally wrong!

Dinosaurs, as are Darwinist, satanic, ungodly friends would call them, are not actually dinosaurs at all, but dragons!!

It says so in the bible, and that’s not all! They only lived about 5000 years ago,

DON’T BELIEVE JURASSIC PARK, IT’S ALL LIES!!!

Don’t believe me? Its all here:

http://www.forerunner.com/forerunner...k_at_Dino.html
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hay people you realy like toying with this guy dont you?
YOU SAD SAD PEOPLE!

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I don't believe it is.....

Can you proove me wrong, if so there are other sites of the same nature i could show you....
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DNA is what makes liveable things. If the DNA was deformed in you, you would be dysfunctional, and or dead.

Dinosaurs are just plain huge sized reptiles!!! Whats more to say?!?


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Experts to discuss the WinDude on Winamp forums

As part of its ongoing efforts to prevent public knowledge of the US shadow government, agents have been dispatched to track the actions of a forum user by the name of "WinDude", reports say that this individual has been leaking in depth, and startling information about the US's top secret actions and plans.

Charlie Rose moderated the discussion on the forums, along with, Stephen Engelberg, and William Broad, coauthors of "Germs: Biological Weapons and America's Secret War." The mass postings took place at the General discussion section of the site,.News of these events reached New York headquarters on Monday, July 8, at 6:34 a. m. ET.

The Council on Foreign Relations is dedicated to increasing U.S. understanding of the world and contributing ideas to U.S. international policy. however the form of which this information is dealt out has been overturned by the actions of WinDude, may god have mercy on his soul.



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No NO! you are totally wrong!

Dinosaurs, as are Darwinist, satanic, ungodly friends would call them, are not actually dinosaurs at all, but dragons!!

It says so in the bible, and that’s not all! They only lived about 5000 years ago,

DON’T BELIEVE JURASSIC PARK, IT’S ALL LIES!!!

Don’t believe me? Its all here:

http://www.forerunner.com/forerunner...k_at_Dino.html
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I find myself afraid....afraid for the need of biometric keyboards, I have this incapacitating fear that someone will use my computer for nefarious purposes, such as Osama bin Laden breaking into my house while I am away, and using it to hack the Frito-Lay site. We must have a keyboard to avoid such terrorist threats to our freedoms.
The keyboard has to read our fingerprint signature with each keystroke when we run our favorite apps remotely from the NSA database to make sure that terrorist pirates aren't using photoshop to plan out the next hijacking. Also to remotely play our favorite Britney Spears record. By the way I now get my records free from the RIAA. How you may ask? Simply put, rather than pirating the records off of the evil terrrorist Napster, I just signed away the right to my DNA structure. Who needs it anyway? I sure can't think of any need. Especially since DNA is a supestitious myth created by satanic scientists to distract us from our Divine Mission for God who created the heaven and earth in SEVEN days...the dinosaurs were just put there to test our faith in Our Divine Heavenly Father. Therefore, abortion should be made criminal and an act of terror.

thank you the house of eris for showing me the light
Now, that's the icing on the cake.
Windude, either you are a troll i.e. a pathetic attention seeker or you are serious, which would make you even more pathetic. I reiterate the advice I've already given to you : get professionnal help, it should help you in both cases.
In the meantime, as far as the forums are concerned, your paranoid bullshit is becoming really tedious. It's not even fun to laugh at you any longer; as was already pointed out, you're just boring by now. So consider this as a final warning : stop with the "world conspiracy" bullshit or I'll kick you out of here, plain and simple.
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Apparently he's a horny, desperate troll.

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Apparently he's a horny, desperate troll.
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maybe he's just hungry...
Or maybe he really bats on my side of the fence.

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Hey, did someone ban Windude, or did he quit coming here of his own accord? Not complaining, just curious.

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Or maybe he really bats on my side of the fence.
LMAO. dont know that i've ever heard a gay man make a gay joke before

missyob made me post this.
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Windude is right you know.
I believe you believe him B.H..
Have we Discordians?
THE HORRIBLE PROOF!
The government of the United States continues to rely on your personal and professional gullibility to suppress the information contained herein. Your cooperation over the past 40 years has exceeded our wildest expectations and we salute you.
The sun does not revolve around the Earth"
The United States Government has been in business with little gray extraterrestrials for about 20 years
The first truth stated here got Giordano Bruno burned at the stake in AD 1600 for daring to propose that it was real. The second truth has gotten far more people killed trying to state it publicly than will ever be known.
But the truth must be told. The fact that the Earth revolves around the sun was successfully suppressed by the church for over 200 years. It eventually caused a major upheaval in the church, government, and thought. A realignment of social and traditional values. That was in the 1800's.
Now, about 400 years after the first truth was pronounced we must again face the shocking facts. The "horrible truth" the government has been hiding from us over 40 years. Unfortunately, the "horrible truth" is far more horrible than the government ever imagined.
In its effort to protect democracy, our government sold us to the aliens. And here is how it happened. But before I begin, I'd like to offer a word in the defense of those who bargained us away. They had the best of intentions.
Germany may have recovered a flying saucer as early as 1939. General James H. Doolittle went to Sweden in 1946 to inspect a flying saucer that had crashed there in Spitzbergen.
The "horrible truth" was known by only a very few persons: They were indeed ugly little creatures, shaped like praying mantises and who were more advanced than us by perhaps a billion years. Of the original group that were the first to learn the "horrible truth", several committed suicide, the most prominent of which was General James V. Forrestal who jumped to his death from a 16th story hospital window. General Forrestal's medical records are sealed to this day.
President Truman quickly put a lid on the secret and turned the screws so tight that the general public still thinks that flying saucers are a joke. Have I ever got a surprise for them.
In 1947, President Truman established a group of 12 of the top military scientific personnel of their time. They were known as MJ-12. Although the group exists today, none of the original members are still alive. The last one to die was Gordon Gray, former Secretary of the Army, in 1984. As each member passed away, the group itself appointed a new member to fill the position. There is some speculation that the group known as MJ-12 expanded to at least several more members.
There were several more saucer crashes in the late 1940's, one in Roswell, New Mexico, one in Aztec, New Mexico, and one near Laredo, Texas, about 30 miles inside the Mexican border.
Consider, if you will, the position of the United States Government at that time. They proudly thought of themselves as the most powerful nation on Earth, having recently produced the atomic bomb, and achievement so stupendous, it would take Russia 4 years to catch up, and only with the help of traitors to Democracy. They had built a jet aircraft that had exceeded the speed of sound in flight. They had built jet bombers with intercontinental range that could carry weapons of enormous destruction. The post war era, and the future seemed bright. Now imagine what it was like for those same leaders, all of whom had witnessed the panic of Orson Wells' radio broadcast, "The War of the Worlds", in 1938. Thousands of Americans panicked at a realistically presented invasion of Earth by beings from another planet. Imagine their horror as they actually viewed the dead bodies of these frightening looking little creatures with enormous eyes, reptilian skin and claw like fingers. Imagine their shock as they attempted to determine how these strange "saucers" were powered and could discover no part even remotely similar to components they were familiar with: no cylinders or pistons, no vacuum tubes or turbines or hydraulic actuators. It is only when you fully understand the overwhelming helplessness the government was faced with in the late 40's that you can comprehend their perceived need for a total, thorough and sweeping cover up, to include the use of "deadly force".
The cover-up was so successful that as late as 1985 a senior scientist with the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, Dr. Al Hibbs, would look at a video tape of an enormous flying saucer and state for the record, "I'm not going to assign anything to that (UFO) phenomena without a lot more data". Dr. Hibbs was looking at the naked emperor and saying, "He certainly looks naked, but that doesn't prove he's naked."
In July of 1952, a panicked government watched helplessly as squadron of "flying saucers" flew over Washington, D.C., and buzzed the White House, the Capitol Building, and the Pentagon. It took all the imagination and intimidation the government could muster to force that incident out of the memory of the public.
Thousands of sightings occurred during the Korean war and several more sauces were retrieved by the Air Force. Some were stored at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, some were stored at Air Force bases near the location of the crash sight.
One saucer was so enormous and the logistic problems in transportation so enormous that it was buried at the crash sight and remains there today. The stories are legendary on transporting crashed saucers over long distances, moving only at night, purchasing complete farms, slashing through forests, blocking major highways, sometimes driving 2 and 3 lo-boys in tandem with and extraterrestrial load a hundred feet in diameter.
On April 30, 1964, the first communication between these aliens and the U.S. Government took place at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico. 3 saucers landed at a prearranged area and a meeting was held between the aliens and intelligence officers of the U.S. Government.
During the period of 1969-1971, MJ-12 representing the U.S. Government made a deal with these creatures, called EBE's (Extraterrestrial Biological Entities, named by Detlev Bronk, original MJ-12 member and 6th President of Johns Hopkins University). The "deal" was that in exchange for "technology" that they would provide to us, we agreed to "ignore" the abductions that were going on and suppress information on the cattle mutilations. The EBE's assured MJ-12 that the abductions (usually lasting about 2 hours) were merely the ongoing monitoring of developing civilizations.
In fact, the purposes for the abductions turned out to be:
The insertion of a 3mm spherical device through the nasal cavity of the abductee into the brain. The device is used for the biological monitoring, tracking, and control of the abductee.
Implementation of Posthypnotic Suggestion to carry out a specific activity during a specific time period, the actuation of which will occur within the next 2 to 5 years.
Termination of some people so that they could function as living sources for biological material and substances.
Termination of individuals who represent a threat to the continuation of their activity.
Effect genetic engineering experiments.
Impregnation of human females and early termination of pregnancies to secure the crossbreed infant.
The U.S. Government was not initially aware of the far reaching consequences of their "deal". They were led to believe that the abductions were essentially benign and since they figured the abductions would probably go on anyway whether they agreed or not, they merely insisted that a current list of abductees be submitted, on a periodic basis, to MJ-12 and the National Security Council. Does this sound incredible? An actual list of abductees sent to the National Security Council? Read on, because I have news for you.
The EBE's have a genetic disorder in that their digestive system is atrophied and not functional. Some speculate that they were involved in some type of accident or nuclear war, or possibly on the back side of and evolutionary genetic curve. In order to sustain themselves they use an enzyme or hormonal secretion obtained from the tissue that they extract from humans and animals. (Note: Cows and Humans are genetically similar. In the event of a national disaster, cow's blood can be used by humans.)
The secretions obtained are then mixed with hydrogen peroxide and applied on the skin by spreading or dipping parts of their bodies in the solution. The body absorbs the solution, then excretes the waste back through the skin. The cattle mutilations that were prevalent throughout the period from 1973 to 1983 and publicly noted through newspaper and magazine stories and included a documentary produced by Linda Howe for the Denver CBS affiliate KMGH-TV, were for the collection of these tissues by the aliens. The mutilations included genitals taken, rectums cored out to the colon, eyes, tongue, and throat all surgically removed with extreme precision. In some cases the incisions were made by cutting between the cells, a process we are not yet capable of performing in the field. In many of the mutilations there was no blood found at all in the carcass, yet there was no vascular collapse of the internal organs. This has been also noted in the human mutilations, one of the first of which was Sgt. Jonathan P. Louette at the White Sands Missile Test Range in 1956, who was found three days after an Air Force Major had witnessed his abduction by a "disk shaped" object at 0300 while on a search for missile debris downrange. His genitals had been removed, rectum cored out in a surgically precise "plug" up to the colon, eyes removed and all blood removed with, again, no vascular collapse. From some of the evidence it is apparent that this surgery is accomplished, in most cases, while the victim, animal or human, is still alive.
The various parts of the body are taken to various underground laboratories, one of which is known to be near the small New Mexico town of Dulce. This jointly occupied (CIA-Alien) facility has been described as enormous, with huge tiled walls that "go on forever". Witnesses have reported huge vats filled with amber liquid with parts of human bodies being stirred inside.
After the initial agreement, Groom Lake, one of this nations most secret test centers, was closed for a period of about a year, sometime between about 1972 and 1974, and a huge underground facility was constructed for and with the help of the EBE's. The "bargained for" technology was set in place but could only be operated by the EBE's themselves. Needless to say, the advanced technology could not be used against the EBE's themselves, even if needed.
During the period between 1979 and 1983 it became increasingly obvious to MJ-12 that things were not going as planned. It became known that many more people (in the thousands) were being abducted than were listed on the official abduction lists. In addition it became obvious that some, not all, but some of the nation's missing children had been used for secretions and other parts required by the aliens.
In 1979 there was an altercation of sorts at the Dulce laboratory. A special armed forces unit was called in to try and free a number of our people trapped in the facility, who had become aware of what was really going on. According to one source, 66 of the soldiers were killed and our people were not freed.
By 1984, MJ-12 must have been in stark terror at the mistake they had made in dealing with the EBE's. They had subtly promoted "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" and "E.T." to get the public used to "odd looking" aliens that were compassionate, benevolent and very much our "space brothers". MJ-12 "sold" the EBE's to the public, and were now faced with the fact that quite the opposite was true. In addition, a plan was formulated in 1968 to make the public aware of the existence of aliens on earth over the next 20 years to be culminated with several documentaries to be released during 1985-1987 period of time. These documentaries would explain the history and intentions of the EBE's. The discovery of the "Grand Deception" put the entire plans, hopes and dreams of MJ-12 into utter confusion and panic.
Meeting at the "Country Club", a remote lodge with private golf course, comfortable sleeping and working quarters, and its own private airstrip built by and exclusively for the member of MJ-12, it was a factional fight of what to do now. Part of MJ-12 wanted to confess the whole scheme and shambles it had become to the public, beg their forgiveness and ask for their support. The other part (and majority) of MJ-12 argued that there was no way they could do that, that the situation was untenable and there was no use in exciting the public with the "horrible truth" and that the best plan was to continue the development of a weapon that could be used against the EBE's under the guise of "SDI" , the Strategic Defense Initiative, which had nothing whatsoever to do with a defense for inbound Russian nuclear missiles. As these words are being written, Dr. Edward Teller, "father" of the H-Bomb is personally in the test tunnels of the Nevada Test Site, driving his workers and associates in the words of one, "like a man possessed". And well he should, for Dr. Teller is a member of MJ-12 along with Dr. Kissenger, Admiral Bobby Inman, and possibly Admiral Poindexter, to name a few of the current members of MJ-12.
Before the "Grand Deception" was discovered and according to a meticulous plan of metered release of information to the public, several documentaries and video tapes were made. William Moore, a Burbank, California, based UFO researcher who wrote "The Roswell Incident", a book published in 1980 that detailed the crash, recovery and subsequent cover-up of a UFO with 4 alien bodies, has a video tape of 2 newsmen interviewing a military officer associated with MJ-12. This military officer answers questions relating to the history of MJ-12 and the cover-up, the recovery of a number of flying saucers and the existence of a live alien (one of 3 living aliens captured and designated, or named, EBE-1, EBE-2, and EBE-3, being held in a facility designated as YY-II at Los Alamos, New Mexico. The only other facility of this type, which is electromagnetically secure, is at Edwards Air Force Base in Mojave, California). The officer names as previously mentioned plus a few others: Harold Brown, Richard Helms, Gen. Vernon Walters, JPL's Dr. Lew Allen and Dr. Theodore von Karman, to name a few of the current and past members of MJ-12.
The officer also relates the fact that the EBE's claim to have created Christ. The EBE's have a type of recording device that has recorded all of Earth's history and can display it in the form of a hologram. This hologram can be filmed but because of the way holograms work does not come out very clear on movie film or video tape. The crucifixion of Christ on the Mount of Olives has allegedly been put on film to show the public. The EBE's claim to have created Christ, which, in view of the "Grand Deception", could be an effort to disrupt traditional values for undetermined reasons.
Another video tape allegedly in existence is an interview with an EBE. Since EBE's communicate telepathically, and Air Force Colonel serves as an interpreter. Just before the recent stock market correction in October of 1987, several newsmen, including Bill Moore, had been invited to Washington, D.C., to personally film the EBE in a similar type interview, and distribute the film to the public. Apparently, because of the correction in the market, it was felt the timing was not propitious. In any case, it certainly seems like an odd method to inform the public of extraterrestrials, but it would be in keeping with the actions of a panicked organization who at this point in time doesn't know which way to turn.
Moore is also in possession of more Aquarius documents, a few pages of which leaked out several years ago and detailed the supersecret NSA project which had been denied by them until just recently. In a letter to Senator John Glenn, NSA's Director of Policy, Julia B. Wetzel , wrote, "Apparently there is or was an Air Force project with that name (Aquarius) which dealt with UFO's. Coincidently, there is also an NSA project by that name." NSA's project Aquarius deals specifically with the "communications wit the aliens" (the EBE's). Within the Aquarius program was project "Snowbird", a project to test-fly a recovered alien aircraft at Groom Lake, Nevada. This project continues today at that location. In the words of an individual who works at Groom Lake, "Our people are much better at taking things apart than they are at putting them back together."
Moore, who claims he has a contact with MJ-12, feels that they have been stringing him along, slipping him documents and providing him leads, promising to go public with some of the information on extraterrestrials by the end of 1987.
Certain of Moore's statements lead one to believe that Moore himself is a government agent working for MJ-12, not to be strung along, but string along ever hopeful UFOlogists that the truth is just around the corner. Consider:
Moore states emphatically that he is not a government agent, although when Lee Graham (a Southern California based UFOlogist) was investigated by DIS (Defense Investigative Service) for possession of classified documents received from Moore, Moore himself was not.
Moore states emphatically that the cattle mutilations of 1973-1983 were a hoax by Linda Howe (producer of "A Strange Harvest") to create publicity for herself. He cites the book "Mute Evidence" as the bottom line of the hoax. "Mute Evidence" was a government sponsored book to explain the mutilations in conventional terms.
Moore states that the U.S.A.F. Academy physics book, "Introductory Space Science", vol. II chapter 13, entitled "Unidentified Flying Objects", which describes four of the most commonly seen aliens (one of which is the EBE) was written by Lt. Col. Edward R. Therkelson and Major Donald B. Carpenter, Air Force personnel who did not know what they were talking about and were merely siting "crackpot" references. He, Moore, states that the book was withdrawn to excise the chapter.
If the government felt they were being forced to acknowledge the existence of aliens on Earth because of the overwhelming evidence such as the October and November sightings in Wytheville, Va., and recently released books such as "Night Siege" (Hynek, J. Allen;Imbrogno, Phillip J.;Pratt, Bob:Night Siege, Ballantine Books, Random House, New York), and taking into consideration the "grand deception" and obviously hostile intentions of the EBE's, it might be expedient for MJ-12 to admit the EBE's but conceal the information on the mutilations and abductions. If MJ-12 and Moore were in some kind of agreement then it would be beneficial to Moore to tow the party line. For example, MJ-12 would say..."here are some more genuine documents...but remember...no talking about the mutilations or abductions". This would be beneficial to Moore as it would supply the evidence to support his theory that E.T.'s exist but deny the truths about the E.T.'s. However, if Moore was indeed working for MJ-12, he would follow the party line anyway...admitting the E.T.'s but pooh poohing the mutilations and abductions. If working alone, Moore might not even be aware of the "grand deception".
Time will tell. It is possible that Moore will go ahead and release the video interview with the military officer around the first of the year, as he has promised. From MJ-12's point of view, the public would be exposed to the information without really having to believe it because Moore is essentially not as credible a source as, say, the President of the United States. After a few months of digestion and discussion, a more credible source could emerge with a statement that yes in fact the interview was essentially factual. This scenario would cushion somewhat the blow to the public. If, however, Moore does not release the tape by, say, February 1 of 1988, but comes instead with a story similar to: "MJ-12 has informed me that they are definitely planning a release of all information by October of 88. I have seen the plan and have seen the guarantee that this will happen, so I have decided to withhold the release of my video tape at this time as it may cause some problems with MJ-12's plans." This would in effect buy more time for MJ-12 and time is what they desperately need.
Now you ask, "Why haven't I heard about any of this?" Who do you think you would hear it from? Dan Rather? Tom Brokaw? Sam Donaldson? Wrong. These people just read the news, they don't find it. They have ladies who call and interview witnesses and verify statements on stories coming over the wire (either AP or UPI). It's not like Dan Rather would go down to Wytheville, Virginia, and dig into why there were 4 THOUSAND reported sightings in October and November of 1987. Better that Tom Brokaw or someone else should risk their credibility on this type of story. Tom Brokaw? Tom wants Sam Donaldson to risk his credibility. No one, but no one, is going to risk their neck on such outlandish ideas, regardless of how many people report sightings of 900 foot objects running them off the road. In the case of the Wytheville sightings, dozens of vans with NASA lettered on the side failed to interest newsmen. And those that asked questions were informed that NASA was doing a weather survey.
Well then, you ask, what about our scientists? What about Carl Sagan? Isaac Asimov? Arthur C. Clarke? Wouldn't they have known? If Carl Sagan knows then he is committing a great fraud through the solicitation of memberships in the Planetary Society, "to search for extraterrestrial intelligence". Another charade into which the U.S. Government dumps million of dollar every year is the radiotelescope in Arecibo, Puerto Rico, operated by Cornell University with - guess who? - Carl Sagan. Cornell is ostensibly searching for signals from Outer Space, a sign maybe, that somebody is out there. It is hard to believe that relatively intelligent astronomers like Sagan could be so ignorant.
What about Isaac Asimov? Surely the most prolific science fiction writer of all time would have guessed by now that there must be an enormous cover-up? Maybe, but if he knows he's not saying. Perhaps he's afraid that Foundation and Empire will turn out to be inaccurate.
What about Arthur C. Clarke? Surely the most technically accurate of Science Fiction writers with very close ties to NASA would have at least a hint of what's really going on. Again, if so he isn't talking. In a recent Science Fiction survey, Clarke estimates that contact with extraterrestrial intelligent life would not occur before the 21st Century.
If the government won't tell us the truth and the major networks won't even give it serious consideration, then what is the big picture, anyway? Are the EBE's, having done a hundred thousand or more abductions (possibly millions worldwide), built an untold number of secret underground bases (Groom Lake, Nevada; Sunspot, Datil, Roswell, and Pine Town, New Mexico, just to name a few) getting ready to return to wherever they came from? Or, form the obvious preparations are we to assume that they are getting ready for a big move? Or is the more sinister and most probable situation that the invasion is essentially complete and it is all over but the screaming?
This communication is directed to participants in the UFO Cover-Ups at different levels in the organizations involved. Let us define some terms, so that we reach a common understanding. This letter is addressed primarily to operations in the United States, although it is in large measure applicable to cover-up operations in other countries.
First, there are two UFO Cover-Ups. One is the relatively mild official U.S. Government cover-up, consisting of a basic policy of Official Denial: denial of UFO knowledge, and denial of access to physical UFO evidence and to sensitive UFO documentation.
The other is an outlaw, privatized, pseudo-governmental organization's aggressive and criminal Cover-Up: replete with unauthorized UFO shoot-downs, kidnapping, forcible interrogation, mind-control experimentation and torture of civilian experiencers and captured extraterestrials, nationwide disinformation campaigns, and vicious intimidation, assaults upon, or character assassinations of civilians who get too close to the truth.
For convenience, the first cover-up will be labeled the Official Government's UFO Cover-Up. The latter will be labeled the Treasonous Paragovernmental Organization's Cover-Up. It is time to call a spade a spade. Because time is up.
This Spring will occur the first of a series of formal Landings and Meetings between Extraterrestrial Emissaries and Earth representation teams. These Meetings are for the purpose of beginning open and official communication between the visiting Star Nations and the general people of Earth. Since the official governments of the technologically developed countries have declined to be honest with their people about extraterrestrial contact, the Star Nations are going directly to the people. The era of open extraterrestrial contact has arrived.
Also this Spring, a coalition of top civilian UFO researchers, astronauts, and former Special Projects military and intelligence officers will be meeting with Congressional staff to establish open, public, televised Congressional Hearings on the evidence these experts have seen and handled of UFO reality and extraterrestrial visitation. This effort will also extend to a United Nations presentation, and will not exclude a worldwide televised public press conference.
The Official Government's UFO Cover-Up policy and operations are about to end, because that Cover-Up is about to be dissolved by human civilian and extraterrestrial emissaries' initiatives in the open, starting this Spring.
To those involved in the Official Government's UFO Cover-Up at a policy level we say: it's time to abandon this policy. If you have integrity, inform your subordinates to release public statements that Government's UFO files are now open to public inspection. If you lack the courage to declare a new policy, at least quietly pass the word, off the record, to subordinates that future requests for UFO information will be fulfilled and not denied.
To those involved in the Official Government's UFO Cover-Up at an operations level, we say: you have been deceived. Your activities in this area are illegal. There is no lawfully- promulgated legal authorization to deny citizens access to UFO information. And without public promulgation, no law is valid. Since you are now aware of this fact, avoid knowingly involving yourself any longer in unlawful activities. Refuse any further unlawful orders to deny fellow citizens access to what is and should be public-access [UFO/ET] information.
The Treasonous Paragovernmental Organization's Cover-Up is also about to become exposed: as the outlaw and seditious conspiracy that it is. The exposure is about to occur this Spring, as Extraterrestrial Emissaries Landings/Meetings and human civilian Public UFO Disclosure initiatives force the Official Government's UFO Cover-Up policy and operations to end. With the official Government out of the UFO Cover-Up business, there will be no governmental skirts behind which the Treasonous Paragovernmental Organization's Cover-Up (TPOC) can hide any longer. As the official Government gets out of the UFO cover-up business and removes National Security authorization, any further TPOC operations to confiscate UFO information, harass and intimidate civilian witnesses, shoot down UFOs, or imprison captured extraterrestrials will be exposed and obvious as the outlaw and treasonous activities which they are.
To those involved in the Treasonous Paragovernmental Organization's Cover-Up at a policy level, we say: your time of behind-the-scenes power, unlimited funds, and pretended "National Security immunity" for your criminal activity has passed. Your only hope for any kind of leniency is to turn yourself in and provide state's evidence against those higher up. Since a number of you are cynical sociopaths, and cannot face a future without the "insider" privileges you are so used to, ending your life may soon appear to you an attractive option. Either way, expect no sympathy. The wasted decades of lost human progress and environmental mitigation you have forced upon the Earth and its people, because of your arrogant, greedy and power-hungry monopolization of extraterrestrial culture and technology information, demand the severest sanctions of you. You will be called to judgment by the people.
Of those involved in the Treasonous Paragovernmental Organization's Cover-Up at an operations level, we distinguish three general levels: the agents, the "assets", and the operatives.
To the TPOC agents, those who have managed the criminal and treasonous operations: the attacks on civilians, the UFO shoot-downs, the murders of extraterrestrials, we say: Your careers are over. As you may have already noticed, the official government is on a search-and- neutralize program directed at your operations in order to prosecute you, such as the DHHS effort to collect evidence of your kidnapping, forcible interrogation and abuse of civilians, to mention only one. It would be reasonable to expect numerous arrests in the not-too-distant future. As your careers soon devolve into ignominy and punishment, reflect on whether it was worth it to serve the interests of those plutocratic elite who are now quite content to let you be thrown to the wolves.
To the TPOC "assets", those who have been misusing your positions of influence in the media, law enforcement, state government, scientific and professional organizations and elsewhere to aid and abet the outlaw UFO Cover-Up, we say: you are going to be exposed and discredited. As the outlaw Cover-Up crumbles, there is going to be a feeding frenzy of finger-pointing and blame-shifting to other collaborators in order to save one's own skin. Remember the fate of your heroes, inquisitional Senator Joseph McCarthy, Reich Propaganda Minister Josef Goebbels and Norwegian Nazi-collaborator politician Quisling. As these became by-words for despicable and craven villains, so shall you.
To the TPOC operatives, those who have been doing the criminal and treasonous hands-on dirty work: the cowardly attacks on civilians, the UFO shoot-downs, the torture and murders of extraterrestrials, we say: You will not escape. Many of the experiencers whom you have harassed, tormented, unlawfully detained, abused and gang-raped remember and know you on sight. Did you think we would forget? As the Cover-Up soon disintegrates, and there is no more culture of UFO denial to provide you immunity, you will soon consider yourself among the lucky ones if you make it to court trial and have a defense lawyer appointed. For, in the Earth Changes soon upon us, with the resultant collapse of infrastructure, the people will develop an alternative for an unavailable court system. It is called street justice, and it will show you no more mercy than you have shown your victims.
The culture which the UFO Cover-Up has operated in is a sick and dysfunctional culture. Born of cynicism, paranoid insecurity, racist zenophobia and materialistic elitism, and operating in an amoral and ruthlessly "pragmatic" fashion, the UFO Cover-Up has created its own harsh and inexorable fate and karma. Your Cover-Up crimes and "dirty tricks", the turning of positions of trust into a war against your own people, will go down in history as its darkest and vilest chapter.

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