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Old 29th July 2002, 05:51   #1
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I don't need a urine test to tell you i do drugs.

I was reading in the local news paper which confirmed many suspitions that my school district was starting random urine tests. Sucks for me, i will lose driving privliges, opted for rehab, probation, or house arrest (this can all happen in pennsylvania for failing a random drug test). I am not one to hide from the inevitable, i dont need a piss test to tell the school im on drugs, all i need is 1 minute, a pen, some paper. Even if i went clean now, school starts in september... Weed can stay in the system for as long as 3 months (but usually only 1 to 2 months w/out prune juice) Opium will stay in even longer. Now the figured out a way to test for Mushrooms and vic too since i dont have prescription. The amount of DXM i took wont pass-over as the casual robitusine use either. In other words im fucked. Here is what im gonna do, im gonna shell $30.00 for the cleaner to flush my system, and im gonna drink allot of detox tea's. Shit this is gonna suck.

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Old 29th July 2002, 05:54   #2
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even the schools are joining in so teens wont fuck their lives up

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ah... the ol' high school days. i had those too. for the four years i went, i was tested once. i'm clean, and so said the results.
but the cool part is that i was in the clinic for about 2 hrs total drinking water, talking to some people until i had to "go." they don't let you leave, and you are escorted by the assisted principal to the room so you don't sneak something.

but even better, i swear to god that the assistant principal wanted me. just by those consistant strange akward smilies and stares. she's out of my age range though, about 40 then.
or was i high?
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Old 29th July 2002, 06:01   #4
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random drug tests in school? damn, what's this world coming to . . . i've heard of such a thing in my pleasantly backwards state of VT
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Old 29th July 2002, 06:10   #5
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There was a news story the other day about a drug dog being brought into a kindergarten to check the 5 and 6 year olds for drugs.
The dog got loose and traumatised some kids.
Looks like they are starting to break down expectations of personal freedoms, and the right to privacy earlier and earlier.
D.A.R.E. to say shove your piss test up your ass!

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as a minor, the general consensus among your superiors, the teachers, is that you have no rights. unfortunately, according to the law, they're pretty much right. you're going to have to grin and bear it, i guess, because they don't want to make your illegal habits any easier. random testing is an interesting way to discourage drug use, because although they say it's random, chances are it's not. take a look in your school and see who they test first. i'll bet you see your resident skaters and "gangsters" in there first.

also, the schools know this: chances are, the only ones that bitch about that policy are the ones who have something to hide, and nobody's going to do anything about it. so try this: go talk to a lawyer. just talk. see what the lawyer has to say about this whole mess, and see if he'd be interested in joining you in a law suit if anything were to happen to you personally. if anyone can find something wrong with this system, it's a lawyer who's getting paid to find something wrong. so go for it. throw in a molestation charge, and you're a shoe-in
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if that ever happens im glad our school has cameras in the halls that are always taping. i can use the tape as evidence. buwahahaha.

and if they wanted me to take the test i would do it in front of them give it to them and with nice curtious fuck you your taking away my privacy anyway so why should i bother going to the bathroom to do it?

and whatever you do dont throw urin and school administrators. its assult.

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you know, if the school is coming after you, i have a feeling they'd figure out a way to conveniently "misplace" the taped footage of them violating any of your rights in their pursuit...
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that in itself would be evidence. and if subpeonaed at the right time would be a obstruction of justice which would hurt them more than giving me free money.

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Old 29th July 2002, 11:07   #11
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Just start planning cunning ways of smuggling friends urine samples in with you. Pull off a little swap and your away, oh but make sure your friend isn't also going to test positive... I always forget that bit

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Old 29th July 2002, 14:38   #12
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I was reading in the local news paper which confirmed many suspitions that my school district was starting random urine tests.
Uh huh and that is an illegal invasion of privacy schools can not force students to take a piss test seeing as a school is a government institiution and everyone has the right to go to a government school. If your in private school your fucked buddy. Honestly man if a school told me to drop i would give them the phone number to my lawyer.
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that is completely fucked up. if you are not doing that shit in school they have no right to test you. i am so glad i am out of school.
They are talking about doing down here in Florida for after school activities but knowing the school district im in they wont end up passing it or doing it for years to come well hopefully that is
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Old 29th July 2002, 15:47   #14
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My school (ex school now as I have just left) had an interesting drugs policiy. It said that all students caught in possession or using drugs on the school site or in the uniform would be expelled. Waht was funny was that students who got caught using weed were expelled, but a guy who was on crack (and heroin allegedly) was given a slap on the wrists.

Maybe it was because his dad was a millionaire...
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Old 29th July 2002, 15:54   #15
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Sounds like a pretty fucked up law. As for the consequences if you get caught, how much say do the parents have in the case of a positive test? If I were a parent I'd tell 'em to fuck off with their test, and if they tested my kid anyway and he came up positive I'd say, "My kid's on drugs? Great! Let me deal with it; you just give him an education like you're supposed to..."
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Maybe it was because his dad was a millionaire...
Bilbo, as you know very well, there is a different law for the richer people. A boy in my class (top academic group of the year) gets crap grades and is too lazy to do any work. How did he get in the top class you ask? his dad gives money to the school because his rich.
Whereas there are many people in lower groups that work their ass off and dont get the chance to move up. Somehow, i dont that is fair

Thats the problem with many people nowadays. Throw a bit of money in front of them and they will do anything you want.
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I went to a private school for 10 years before I was finnaly let to go to a public school for highschool... they had us sign a paper coming into the school and our parents had to sign it too or we wouldnt be allowed to go to the school on the paper we signed it stated that we were on a 24hr servalence and we had to act as god like people in all sences saying if i were to smoke out side of school and get caught they could do the same stuff as if i was in school detentions, suspensions, ect rarly did they expel people because they wanted the money... that 24hr thing also included drugs and say kissing your boyfriend out side of school and getting caught by a teacher...I thought it was pretty messed up myself but what could I do about it my parents sent me there...
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fuck the U.S... its going to hell anyway, im moving to British Colombia


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Old 29th July 2002, 17:21   #20
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so much for freedom, ah well it's good to be canadian. Who knows it may not be as long as some thought 'till the legalization of "weed". Man if we had random drug testing when I was in school I would have never graduated...........wait I never graduated.........I'm going back to college though, maybe university.
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i go to a private highschool, and usually you dont get kicked out for drugs unless you get caught smoking or show up baked. the only problem i have is that they put weed on the same level as blow and H as far as punishment. come on you'd have like 15 people per grade left in school if you kicked out everyone who's done weed.

and athene is correct, private grade schools suck balls.

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Hmm, it doesn't take a fool to realise that mine and Vie's school is riddled with people who take drugs, weed mainly, but I don't think that our school makes much of a fuss of it, possibly due to their ignorance of the fact that it goes on.

As said before, schools have NO right testing urine samples from random people. But on the other side of things, you wouldn't need to worry about getting caught if you didn't do drugs in the first place!

What do achieve by taking drugs? lack of money, worsened health, some occasions leaving to death. It was talking about the increased deaths in the UK today (on the BBC news) had doubled last year. I feel that making too much of a fuss about drugs, saying they are bad and stuff like that makes people only MORE curious to take drugs.

But then, if you decide to play it cool and not make a fuss of taking drugs, people are only going to believe that taking them are acceptable. I suppose there is a fine line between the two. Relaisticly, drugs are on the rise and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
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In my old high school(in MD) they would do a random search with drug dogs. when the dogs came in, they would come on the PA and give a phony message that told the teachers that there was a drug dog in the school. nobody was allowed out of the room until they had the dog out of the shcool. this is perfectly legal, since the lockers are the property of the school, and the school has the right to search it's property.
Also, for those who have to submit to drug testing, if you know you are clean, and you want to avoid the possibility of getting a false positive on the test, the only way you can prove you didn't do any drugs is to go and take a drug test at another lab the same day as the school test. if the school comes back a false negative, and the other test comes back negative, you can legally stop anything from happening to you, other than a re-test.
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Although random piss testing has an awful tinge of Orwellian socialism to it, I don't have a problem with locker searches. As BMWBoy pointed out, the school board owns that property anyway. Besides, you deserve what's coming to you if you are stupid enough to leave your stash at school.
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that is ass-ass. they should not be allowed to urine test you. if they can search your locker because it is thier property then you have the right to dissallow them to search your property, and your pee bolongs to you, last time i checked. or something like that. i did go to school baked one time, and it was one of the funnest days in HS. i guess because it was against the rules. some days the hallways reeked of weed.


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and athene is correct, private grade schools suck balls.
Amen, If I had to deal with those A/V Nazis anymore I would have gone insane.

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My school doesnt do any drug tests. Sure, there are consequences if you're *caught* with drugs, but at least half of the people I know from school do drugs and they've only gotten in trouble when the house they were partying at got busted by the police, etc. (Nothing to do with the school.) Hmmmmm....
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i think the school are just trying to be our "parents".if they suspect or smell pot on you,they can ask for a drug test.but you dont have to take it!they are not a cop,they are not a judge.they can call your parents and tell them that they think your kid is on drugs.and they should not be able to suspend you unless they have proof of it.best thing to do if your worried is not to do them before or during school!

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Meh, the best thing point-blanc is not to do them at all
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I dont know if anyone else posted this, I'm kinda tired from reading, but what about getting some piss from a sibling, then you just carry it in a little pouch under your armpit to keep it warm, then attach a little hose with a stop that goes down to your pants then uncap it when necessary?

Search google for better evasion instructions. :P

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take a look in your school and see who they test first. i'll bet you see your resident skaters and "gangsters" in there first.
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my ol' (private) school would not kick out students caught by the piss test, only if they dealed in school grounds or indangered any students' health. they would actually setup students on a drug program.

since the school was primarily upper class, the drug problem was worse in some areas.
anywho you sign the papers that you agree to have the tests take place. i feel that's not violating any rights.
but on a government school, where one has no choice? i really do not know what's the fair answer. if the government at some point enforces it, all private schools will do the same.

and my assistant principal really wanted me.

finally it was definetly random at my school. every student's ID was selected by the third party who collected the samples. so there was No Bias here.
that and the obvious ammount of "preacher's" sons and daughters that were tested.
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drug testing in public schools is a grey area. I know that it is legal in private schools. I would say it is not legal, but, then again, I'm not a member of the supreme court.
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Its not legal to enforce random drug tests in public schools because of infringement on the persons privacy, but in private schools, they hold the right to kick you out for any reason anyway. You can deny the test in a private school, that is your right, but you will have to face the consequences. Sad really.

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um... have you been to the mideast? see them lighting up? you'd change your mind soon.

no, a clear mind is needed to make the right decisions. that's why private businesses screen employees. i wouldn't want to depend on a bunch of brain dead lumps... but maybe some do.
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they shouldn't give you a drug test if you're not doing the drugs in school. it's not their business. weed should be medically legal anyway...
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there are two many posts for me to read. so if this hasnt been said already ill say it. if it has im saying it again.

get a condom and have your friend piss in it. tie off the end and keep it near your inner thigh. when you go in to test just poor it in. the thigh thing keeps it warm. makesure its not like a spermacide prelubed condom. get the cheap kind thats extra thick.

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That works fine when you know when you are getting tested, but these are random, which makes it hard. I am not gonna piss sack all day everyday for the school year.


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