Old 5th January 2002, 19:12   #1
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Kaolla2 - beta

alright, heres a basic build of kaolla2 coded by nIRV, designed by me.



dont expect too much tho, its just to show you this thing is gonna happen, and its a pretty good job for the time it was built in. any feedback is appreciated. but try not to point out obvious problems [like the lack of buttons, and the text anti aliasing]. those things will come later.

kaolla2 beta2:
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kaolla2 beta2 for 9x machines:
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Old 5th January 2002, 19:16   #2
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Hmm. Looks great.

btw, wasn't it Lucas who was working on the scripting part of this skin...?
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Old 5th January 2002, 19:17   #3
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great job just change the colors on the playlist and this skin would be perfect. thank goodness you got rid of your last coder he did absolutely nothing
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Old 5th January 2002, 19:24   #4
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Ooooohhh!!! Too sexy for my desktop!!! Its so techie I am afraid to touch it without reading the instructions manual first

Can't wait to see how you do the windows, the mods on the Minibrowser are cool. The song ticker font is kinda small but you have room so that is easy. You have space for more buttons, can't wait to see how you work them in.

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Old 5th January 2002, 19:27   #5
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nIRV will be doing most of the coding for this one, he now belongs to the Reva Designs team.

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Old 5th January 2002, 19:40   #6
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hi guys,

like lucas said, I'm now in charge of porting kaolla2, the cool psd of jason, to a skin everyone can play with on winamp... lucas will continue working on eps, ohe3, and probe...

the rino, just don't bitch here and there when you don't really know what is really going on please

this is a beta so there's tons of things that are not working or absent (just to name a fiew, a eq switch on/off, repeat shuffle xfade, etc.) and the component window are not skinned... but as time goes, it'll be done.

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Old 5th January 2002, 19:50   #7
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love it guys
keep it up nIRV & Lucas !
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Old 5th January 2002, 20:32   #8
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love the eq! is there a volume thingy in here somewhere?
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Old 5th January 2002, 21:10   #9
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OMG, that skin rulzz...
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Old 6th January 2002, 00:07   #10
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yep lylewilson there's a volume, in the right window...
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Old 6th January 2002, 09:23   #11
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woow, it's fantastic

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Old 6th January 2002, 17:17   #12
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The download link isn't working right now.
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Old 6th January 2002, 17:41   #13
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sorry bout the dowload problem. try it again, it should work.

but i cant say for how long...
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Old 6th January 2002, 17:50   #14
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thx now it is working !
Your skin is very nice
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Old 6th January 2002, 18:10   #15
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here are some alternate links in case the download link no longer works, which it is likely to do because my web host is going bust:

Kaolla2 for NT machines:
download

Kaolla2 for 9x machines:
download

currently the component skins are being designed.
and what are peoples opinions on the exclusion of the colour management from the skin? does anyone actually use it? i prefer to think that kaolla2 doesnt need to [and shouldnt] have its colour scheme changed. it gains much of its aesthetic appeal from the fact that the skin's blue works particularly well with the white sections.
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Old 6th January 2002, 22:50   #16
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Very well-done skin. However, I still have a few minor gripes.
  • The earlier functionless version had a transparent LCD effect that was extremely sexy and looked great in Windows 2000.
  • The font for both track time and track name is really blocky and doesn't show up right
  • It needs a shadow

As for color controls, I personally think that it would look very good with a orange-gold color as well... maybe let us decide, eh? If winamp³ offers something that can't hurt, I'm of the opinion that skinners should make use of it.
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Old 7th January 2002, 00:46   #17
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molotov, I don't think there will be semi transparent background in the windows because it's cool 5 min then we don't really care after, plus it slows down the whole system ALOT because there is some dynamic objects over it.

The font problem is a problem related to winamp which I hope will be fixed in the next beta... it doesn't load custom fonts included in the zip when the skin in zipped, unzip it into a directory in /skins , it'll work like a charm and will look darn good

Shadow is up to the skinner, I don't think it needs some shadow though

how and, thanks for liking this skin )

correct links for download (hey sawg, do you still have place? )

Version for NT:
http://www.ampskins.150m.com/skins/kaolla2b2-NT.exe

Version for 9x:
http://www.ampskins.150m.com/skins/Kaolla2b2-9x.exe
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Old 7th January 2002, 01:21   #18
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I get a hotlinking error on both of these links.

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Old 7th January 2002, 02:12   #19
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You've linked us to an .exe installer, and it does unzip to a folder. The font is, nonetheless, cramped and hard to read at that small size. The letters blend together and look like a solid blob of white.

Shadows, in my experience, really do help give a little depth to the skin. Kaolla is a very 3D skin, but on a desktop that has other stuff on it in always-on-top mode it looks odd and slightly flat. At least make it an option for those of us who have the horsepower to enable it.
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Old 7th January 2002, 04:20   #20
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molotov, sorry I know what's your problem and it's still a winamp problem but this one is already fixed in private betas so in beta3, it should be alright... in the mean time, you can download the 9x version which will work like a charm ... I will try to work out something for you...
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Old 7th January 2002, 07:38   #21
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nirv: a shadow ownz for every skin
add it dude
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Old 7th January 2002, 19:48   #22
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You've linked us to an .exe installer, and it does unzip to a folder.
Huh? I get a hotlinking error like thepyr0x. I tried right clicking and "Save Target As", but no luck. The older links give error messages, as well.
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Old 7th January 2002, 22:56   #23
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Sorry NT/2000/XP/"the good version" only... ass
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Old 8th January 2002, 01:35   #24
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This skin rocks! I love it.
Keep up the good work you two
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Old 8th January 2002, 04:29   #25
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Old 8th January 2002, 04:46   #26
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evil player-normal.xml gayness.

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Old 10th January 2002, 16:49   #27
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Did someone find a solution on that font problem? its kindda rouining the feeling - everything else seems fine (looking forward to PL and ML buttons )

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Old 10th January 2002, 18:40   #28
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Sertmann -

It has to do with the anti-aliasing of the font. In the short run, you can edit one of the xml files and turn antialiasing to "0". THe problem should be fixed in Beta 3. Make sure you're not using the .wal, but have actually unzipped the .wal file. Then you'll get the better font (not sure why the TTF doesn't worked zipped, though.)

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thx, ill try that out

I allways unzip the wal files - its way faster loading skins on my system when they're unpacked - and some of the old ones dont work when
zipped! - hmmmm wow i actualy have 46 wa3 skins
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thx, ill try that out

I allways unzip the wal files - its way faster loading skins on my system when they're unpacked - and some of the old ones dont work when
zipped! - hmmmm wow i actualy have 46 wa3 skins

46? can you list em down... or PM me I wanna know which ones I don't have, I can't remember about 46 skins
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Old 11th January 2002, 15:39   #31
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nirv: a shadow ownz for every skin
add it dude
hey, nirv doesnt do the art around here. try to direct those kind of comments to me . btw. i always planned to include a shadow, and its in the skin now. update soon[!]

thanks everyone for your comments
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Old 11th January 2002, 18:56   #32
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new version

Kaolla2 - Beta 3

We worked days a nights (not really) to get this new version out. The main window is now finished and jason is now focusing on component skinning and winshade mode too...

Skin can be downloaded here (and it'll work more than 10min)
http://www.revadesigns.net/kaolla2/kaolla2b3.exe
(thanks to lucas)
http://www.public.asu.edu/~abarber2/wa/kaolla2b3.exe
(thanks to sawg)

Here's a brief history since the last beta

beta3
=====
Addition:
- added close, go to shade, minimise buttons
- added xfade, repeat, shuffle toggle buttons
- added the eq on/off toggle button
- added songinfo text
- added antialising on texts
- added shadow to the main window

Visual:
- visual change on background png and the glass pngs too
- visual change on the play button
- visual change on the volume

Misc:
- kaolla2 is now packed with nsis and detects your os
- tweaked the background used on 9x and NT4 machines
- modified the right window texts placement
- cleaned up player-normal a bit, much nicer now

enjoy,
nIRV and jason
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Old 11th January 2002, 19:35   #33
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thx for that! beauty update..and oh what a swell little install package youve packed it into! yay!

im still wondering what the three minimise/winshade/close style buttons located on the SE quadrant of the playback console are gonna be used for..
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Old 11th January 2002, 19:58   #34
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Awesome! I like the minibrowser!

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But I'm feeling much better now.
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46? can you list em down... or PM me I wanna know which ones I don't have, I can't remember about 46 skins
hmmmm on my page (check sig) i have 37
im working on 2 - Misery and 404
the default skin
Sony and Ghostly which i cant seem to get working

thats 42 - dont know how i came up with 46


--->>!! can anyone spare some 30 - 40 MB of space so i can get those
downloads up running again?`maybe wa.com could provide this? - well ok maybe thats a tad naive
Anyway ill keep looking for some - netsabes made a free.fr account for me, but i never heard from him again
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Old 11th January 2002, 20:38   #36
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Nice work nIRV,

Too bad I am running Window$ 98se, seems like antialising crashes 9x systems or is it something else??? Cool skin.....I still say it needs and instructions manual for being so techie


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THAT SKIN ROXORZ ROXORZ ROXORZ!

and its onlt in beta! cant wait for the winshade mode! REALLY good work fellas! i cant wait for more skins from u guys!

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Old 12th January 2002, 04:18   #38
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9x users that uses kaolla2 and find it crashing after 40sec...

a) removing antialising on the time text in player-normal.xml

b) download the file attached and overwrite player-normal.xml (rename the file first)

Antialiasing seems to be broken only with a text that displays time...

Will fix this in the next release

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nIRV - Still having problems copying over the player-normal.xml in NSIS for 9x systems? Good luck, buddy.

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jar, nah I got pissed and used a different technic (less elegant but it works) ...
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