Is it SPAM?

dwsowash · 19th January 2018, 17:36

I get alot of legenthy connections from clients.your-server.de
My understanding is that these addresses are hosted websites.
Are they just websites who have embedded my stream?
Or are they something more nefarious?

neralex · 19th January 2018, 18:59

It makes no difference on which website the stream is embedded, because you will see only the user-agent of the application, which the user or the bot is using while listening to the stream.

This domain is an part of the Hetzner network, a huge hosting company in Germany. Connections like this are servers from their customers, which are are running bots to fetch your stream-titles, stream-stats etc. I got the same connections and after some research I found a radio directory of an mobile app-developement company, which are listing public streams on their radio app for Android and iOS.

http://live.audials.com/de#!radio/

They are providing on their website a "last played" section of each listed stream. They are using bots, which are connecting very fast to the stream, then checking the stream-title. These connections have a lot of faked user-agents.

In short - yes it is spam!

dwsowash · 19th January 2018, 19:23

Thanks for the reply.
Following your link I searched for my stream and sure enough they have it.

As long as there is no real threat and the stream is monetized, I guess it's a good thing.

sqgl · 2nd February 2018, 15:34

Both Hetzner and Zen IP addresses belong to Audials. Perhaps also Linode addresses but I have not verified.

Interesting to note that I have a Hetzner (Germany) server IP tuned in to the USA DNASv1 relay of my station displaying not only the current song but how many minutes and seconds in it is.

However when I go to the associated Audials page and click the playbutton I then show up in my logs as a listener on the Swiss DNSASv1 relay of that station of mine (even though it shows an Australian flag - my source is in AU bit I don' tknow how they knew that).

Both are relays of a DNASv2 station (which is the only one listed in the SC YP since v1 is officially ignored now).

That is my 128kbps stream, however cilcking PLAY on the Audials 64kbps stream has me showing up in my v2 logs which is no surprise since the bot is tuned into the v2 stream also. However it belongs to Zen not Hetzner. In fact I have two Zen IP's simultaneously connected to that stream.

These Zen and Heztner servers are interchangeable - I have had a bot from Zen drop out and then immediately after Hetzner will connect.

There is a Hetzner bot connected to one of my 96kbps streams but there is no 96k version of my station on Audials.

sqgl · 13th February 2018, 16:49

Hetzner also supplies a (useful) seven day playlist for OnLineRadioBox, eg my station.

roids · 21st February 2018, 23:44

you can send abuse to datacenter

neralex · 22nd February 2018, 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqgl

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Take care - Hetzner is only an server/webspace provider and/or data center!

19th January 2018, 17:36	#1
dwsowash Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 14	Is it SPAM? I get alot of legenthy connections from clients.your-server.de My understanding is that these addresses are hosted websites. Are they just websites who have embedded my stream? Or are they something more nefarious?

2nd February 2018, 15:34	#4
sqgl Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 188	Both Hetzner and Zen IP addresses belong to Audials. Perhaps also Linode addresses but I have not verified. Interesting to note that I have a Hetzner (Germany) server IP tuned in to the USA DNASv1 relay of my station displaying not only the current song but how many minutes and seconds in it is. However when I go to the associated Audials page and click the playbutton I then show up in my logs as a listener on the Swiss DNSASv1 relay of that station of mine (even though it shows an Australian flag - my source is in AU bit I don' tknow how they knew that). Both are relays of a DNASv2 station (which is the only one listed in the SC YP since v1 is officially ignored now). That is my 128kbps stream, however cilcking PLAY on the Audials 64kbps stream has me showing up in my v2 logs which is no surprise since the bot is tuned into the v2 stream also. However it belongs to Zen not Hetzner. In fact I have two Zen IP's simultaneously connected to that stream. These Zen and Heztner servers are interchangeable - I have had a bot from Zen drop out and then immediately after Hetzner will connect. There is a Hetzner bot connected to one of my 96kbps streams but there is no 96k version of my station on Audials. Remixing listener requests of ambient tracks live http://RePlayScape.com

13th February 2018, 16:49	#5
sqgl Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 188	Hetzner also supplies a (useful) seven day playlist for OnLineRadioBox, eg my station. Remixing listener requests of ambient tracks live http://RePlayScape.com

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19th January 2018, 18:59	#2
neralex Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 576	It makes no difference on which website the stream is embedded, because you will see only the user-agent of the application, which the user or the bot is using while listening to the stream. This domain is an part of the Hetzner network, a huge hosting company in Germany. Connections like this are servers from their customers, which are are running bots to fetch your stream-titles, stream-stats etc. I got the same connections and after some research I found a radio directory of an mobile app-developement company, which are listing public streams on their radio app for Android and iOS. http://live.audials.com/de#!radio/ They are providing on their website a "last played" section of each listed stream. They are using bots, which are connecting very fast to the stream, then checking the stream-title. These connections have a lot of faked user-agents. In short - yes it is spam!

19th January 2018, 19:23	#3
dwsowash Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 14	Thanks for the reply. Following your link I searched for my stream and sure enough they have it. As long as there is no real threat and the stream is monetized, I guess it's a good thing.

21st February 2018, 23:44	#6
roids Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 34	you can send abuse to datacenter