Return of the King (possible spoilers)

s1138 · 17th December 2003, 16:14

OMG who has seen it? i went to the midnight showing, didnt get home till almost 4am, but it was so worth it.
This thread is for everyone to discuss their thoughts on the movie.
I thought it ruled. It was almost three and a half hours long, but after seeing it, they could have easily made it into a 4+ hour movie. I am eagerly awaiting the extended edition.

ElChevelle · 17th December 2003, 16:41

Read the book.
Saw the animated full length feature.
Interesting

Kaboon · 17th December 2003, 18:39

I haven't seen it yet. But I missed the first 2 parts too. I'm planning on seeing them one day. Maybe in a saturdaynight movie marathon with some friends or something.

horse-fly · 17th December 2003, 21:00

first non-mod post...

i am going to see it this friday!!! and i am going to spoil it without the ['spoiler'], so watch out!

xzxzzx · 17th December 2003, 21:10

No, but I will shortly. Tonight, 10:00...

Bilbo Baggins · 17th December 2003, 21:58

I saw it at the 10:30am opening here (first available one)

OMG OMG OMG!!!

The scenes with the Undead were particularly brilliant.

ElChevelle · 17th December 2003, 23:42

Quote:

Originally posted by Horse-Fly
i am going to see it this friday!!! and i am going to spoil it without the ['spoiler'], so watch out!

Prepare to have your post deleted!

Spoiler: LOTR: Return of the king spoiler
16 de Enero, 2003

Hace no mucho se estrenó Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers y ya me he encontrado con algo que aparecerá en la 3era parte de la trilogia de LOTR, si no has leido los libros y/o no quieres saber algo, aunque sea un detalle de lo que se viene en la próxima película, mejor no sigas.

Navegando en el sitio de Andy Serkis (a partir del post de Antonio), el actor detrás de los movimientos y un poco la personalidad del personaje digital Smeagol / Gollum, encontré una foto de una escena en donde se observa un paso en la evolución (¿des-evolución?) de Smeagol tendrá en ésta tercera parte.

Raz · 17th December 2003, 23:51

Ugh. Awful. Cheesy with large bits of story missing. Plus i had to sit next to assholes (friends) who talked and giggled the whole way through.

Bazman63 · 17th December 2003, 23:56

Quote:

Originally posted by ElChevelle
Read the book.
Saw the animated full length feature.
Interesting

I remember the animated film. But I thought they didn't finish it due to the expense. Apparently they painted over real actors and horses in a lot of it and ran out of paint, or masking tape or something.

laz · 18th December 2003, 00:12

I can not wait, and is there an intermission? it IS 3 hours and 21 min long.
My friend said he cryed, it was that good. Was it?
NO SPOILERS! going to see it tomrrow.

Bilbo Baggins · 18th December 2003, 00:43

Bazman, you can get the ending, but it is incredibly hard to come by. I have a safe copy

Bazman63 · 18th December 2003, 00:50

Really? How? Where? Cost? Tell, tell....

Bilbo Baggins · 18th December 2003, 00:59

PM me.

I think that after seeing ROTK today, i will be paying Mr Jackson some mor emoney to go and see it again. There are a lot of bits i want to see again (like all the scenes with the undead).

s1138 · 18th December 2003, 03:04

yes bilbo. the extended hopefully will have that. i read somewhere, the original cut was something like 4.5 hours.

i am so proud of myself, i sat through the whole thing. probably because before it started, i went to the bathroom like 3 times.
it was a great movie. when the extended comes out, im going to sit down and watch all three in one day. i think if i view them all in a row, it will enhance the overall view.
im going to see it again tomorrow, have to take my gf and my bro, cause i wouldnt let them come to the midnight showing with me...

henry3k56 · 18th December 2003, 03:21

Went to the 3:45pm showing on December 19th, 2003.

Yus! It went along very well. Although....read the book before criticizing it! Thx.

Many of my friends came with me, huge theatre! Heh. I loved it, and it was the first time I actually went to an opening day. Hmm, guess I'm paying good ol' Time Warner my $5.75 for my seat in the theatre.

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horse-fly · 18th December 2003, 05:12

Quote:

Originally posted by ElChevelle
Prepare to have your post deleted!

would i still have that extra post in my total count?

and chev, why did you get a spoiler in espanol?

taylormemer · 18th December 2003, 05:16

It comes out here on Boxing Day (26th Dec) I haven't seen it yet, but I definetly will.

SSJ4 Gogitta · 18th December 2003, 07:45

Ownage. Pure, Fucking, Ownage.

Just got back from the 9pm showing. I will not buy ANY of the DVDs untill the 12 DVD Directors Cut Box Set comes out for all 3 movies.

s1138 · 18th December 2003, 18:14

im going again tonight....taking my bro, sis, and gf.
yay!

Fickle · 18th December 2003, 18:23

went to the midnight showing on tuesday (advance screening). It was cool, but there was a lot of Frodo vs Sam shit that made me think of gay porn. The touching, the shirtless Frodo prone on his back with Sam standing over him. I was tired so I wasn't seeing it in full perspective. Not that there's anything wrong with the gay community or anything, I am just a little weirded out when there are long dramatic shots of guys whispering and grabbing each other.

xzxzzx · 18th December 2003, 18:25

It was a great movie. Really, really good. Not quite as good as the first two, because the story was a lot more disjointed. However, still really, really good.

DragonSon · 18th December 2003, 19:15

The BEST movie I've seen in a long time, hands down. Like Bilbo said, the scenes with the Undead were some of the best scenes, and the comic relief between Gimli and Legolas were comical to say the least. I can't wait until it comes out on DVD, then it's going to be somewhere past the 4 hours mark. So...Five thumbs up:

Spazz333 · 19th December 2003, 07:20

Quote:

Originally posted by DragonSon
the comic relief between Gimli and Legolas were comical to say the least.

Comic relief that was comical! You must be mad!

Anyways, that was a very good movie. A bit much on the over extended death scenes over and over again like seems to be popular now.

The part I liked most was Spoiler: the fact that the ring even corrupted Frodo in the end and prevented him from destroying it. The fact an artifact of that power can pretty much only be destroyed by accident kicked ass.

I think I'm gonna dig out the books again and try to muster my attention span long enough to read them again.

SSJ4 Gogitta · 19th December 2003, 07:23

BAH. Return of the King, Opening Gross: $34,125,000. Got 3rd largest opening day. Matrix Reloaded at 2nd, and Spider-Man at 1st.

RotK shoulda got 1st.

zootm · 19th December 2003, 10:29

i think the film is brilliant. and i think that purists who would've liked to see a "truer" version should at least try to consider how shit such a film would have been.

zetafunction · 19th December 2003, 16:34

Awesome movie. I've read the books, and I'm of the opinion that a little bit TOO much was cut out... like what happens to Theoden? Do they leave him to rot on the field? How come Eowyn's not all sad at the ending...? And how come Faramir is suddenly magically well at the end? Oh well, that's what the Extended Edition is for, right?

<spoiler>I still can't believe Gandalf died!</spoiler>

xzxzzx · 19th December 2003, 16:45

Spoiler: You use square brackets for spoilers

zetafunction · 19th December 2003, 17:55

Quote:

Originally posted by xzxzzx
Spoiler: You use square brackets for spoilers

There's a reason I didn't =)

xzxzzx · 19th December 2003, 20:11

Spoiler: There's a reason I did

Russ · 20th December 2003, 00:18

The ending was long and cheesy, but then so was the book's. Yes, he left out pretty much half the book, but I think he's justified in what he cut (certainly, I don't think the scouring of the Shire would have worked in the film). To be honest, the book is not the greatest literary work (contrary to what viewers of a certain british TV program say), and I think in a way Jackson was going to get criticism however he adapted the book. How little criticism he actually got is a testament to how well he did it.

The set of Minas Tirith was breathtaking, the cinematography was incredible, in general the plot and screenplay was very good. Some scenes were quite scarily close to how I'd imagined the book.

It's really hard to rank the film amongst the other two of the trilogy. But the trilogy will certainly be incomparable for a good while to come.

All I shall say is over three quarters of IMDB voters have given this film a 10 (unheard of), and that I shall be joining them.

Bilbo Baggins · 20th December 2003, 00:30

I do not think that the books ending was cheesy, it was bittersweet. Yes the war had been won, but at what cost?

zetafunction · 20th December 2003, 01:11

Cheesy? In what way? I'm not quite sure I understand. =)
While it's hard to gauge with absolute certainity what Tolkien had in mind when he wrote the Lord of the Rings, it's mentioned multiple times that with the passing of the One Ruling Ring, the power of the three Elven rings--Narya, Nenya, and Vilya--will also pass. Even though Sauron might be defeated, Middle Earth can't go back to what it once was. It was the power of the Elven rings that preserved Lothlorien and Rivendell, and now that their power is gone, the elves cannot remain in Middle Earth for any longer.
As for the scouring of the Shire, it's also another symbol of how the past can't always be reclaimed. Even though the primary source of evil in Middle Earth has been destroyed, it has spread and the hobbits can't just go home to a peaceful rest. Even after all that is said and done, and the wicked Men are expelled, some things are just never the same. Despite the victory, scars will always remain.

Mrs_Mia_Wallace · 26th December 2003, 15:45

I didn't want to start a whole new thread about it so I'm posting it here since it has something to do with the ROTK...there have been over 50 mistakes found int he movie, you can go here for a list and description of all of them. I found it quite interesting sicne I didn't notice any of htem myself.

Mistakes or not, the movie was great!

Mia

henry3k56 · 26th December 2003, 19:36

Ditto

sidd · 27th December 2003, 15:05

chev's giberish in english, translated faithfully by a robot:

Spoiler: 16 of January, 2003 Hace was released Lord not much of the Rings: The Two Towers and already I have been with which it will appear in éra part of the trilodge of LOTR, if you have not leido books and/or you do not want to know something, although is a detail from which one comes in the next film, better you do not follow. Sailing in the site of Andy Serkis (from post of Antonio), the actor behind the movements and a little the personality of the digital personage Smeagol/Gollum, I found a photo of a scene in where a passage in the evolution is observed (return) of Smeagol it will have in this one third part.

zarine · 6th September 2010, 13:56

It is a good flick. I liked it very much.

gillcrist32 · 7th September 2010, 07:47

Really it's a great movie for all the time

17th December 2003, 16:14	#1
s1138 Alumni? Join Date: May 2000 Location: joja Posts: 6,936	Return of the King (possible spoilers) OMG who has seen it? i went to the midnight showing, didnt get home till almost 4am, but it was so worth it. This thread is for everyone to discuss their thoughts on the movie. I thought it ruled. It was almost three and a half hours long, but after seeing it, they could have easily made it into a 4+ hour movie. I am eagerly awaiting the extended edition.

17th December 2003, 18:39	#3
Kaboon Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,494	I haven't seen it yet. But I missed the first 2 parts too. I'm planning on seeing them one day. Maybe in a saturdaynight movie marathon with some friends or something. berkenpi.es

17th December 2003, 21:10	#5
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18th December 2003, 00:50	#12
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18th December 2003, 03:21	#15
henry3k56 Forum King Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Internet Posts: 3 Trillion Posts: 4,241	Went to the 3:45pm showing on December 19th, 2003. Yus! It went along very well. Although....read the book before criticizing it! Thx. Many of my friends came with me, huge theatre! Heh. I loved it, and it was the first time I actually went to an opening day. Hmm, guess I'm paying good ol' Time Warner my $5.75 for my seat in the theatre. Its supporting Winamp and you know it! henry3k56 \| Summer is here. My Flickr Page & Frontierra \| Posting Since September 2001.

17th December 2003, 16:41	#2
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,436	Read the book. Saw the animated full length feature. Interesting

17th December 2003, 21:00	#4
horse-fly Account Closed Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 2,360	first non-mod post... i am going to see it this friday!!! and i am going to spoil it without the ['spoiler'], so watch out!

17th December 2003, 21:58	#6
Bilbo Baggins Wind Chime of the Apocalypse Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Forest Posts: 17,229	I saw it at the 10:30am opening here (first available one) OMG OMG OMG!!! The scenes with the Undead were particularly brilliant.

17th December 2003, 23:51	#8
Raz Forum King Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 6,470	Ugh. Awful. Cheesy with large bits of story missing. Plus i had to sit next to assholes (friends) who talked and giggled the whole way through.

18th December 2003, 00:12	#10
laz Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: the internet Posts: 1,089	I can not wait, and is there an intermission? it IS 3 hours and 21 min long. My friend said he cryed, it was that good. Was it? NO SPOILERS! going to see it tomrrow.

18th December 2003, 00:43	#11
Bilbo Baggins Wind Chime of the Apocalypse Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Forest Posts: 17,229	Bazman, you can get the ending, but it is incredibly hard to come by. I have a safe copy

18th December 2003, 00:59	#13
Bilbo Baggins Wind Chime of the Apocalypse Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Forest Posts: 17,229	PM me. I think that after seeing ROTK today, i will be paying Mr Jackson some mor emoney to go and see it again. There are a lot of bits i want to see again (like all the scenes with the undead).

18th December 2003, 03:04	#14
s1138 Alumni? Join Date: May 2000 Location: joja Posts: 6,936	yes bilbo. the extended hopefully will have that. i read somewhere, the original cut was something like 4.5 hours. i am so proud of myself, i sat through the whole thing. probably because before it started, i went to the bathroom like 3 times. it was a great movie. when the extended comes out, im going to sit down and watch all three in one day. i think if i view them all in a row, it will enhance the overall view. im going to see it again tomorrow, have to take my gf and my bro, cause i wouldnt let them come to the midnight showing with me...

18th December 2003, 05:16	#17
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18th December 2003, 07:45	#18
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18th December 2003, 18:14	#19
s1138 Alumni? Join Date: May 2000 Location: joja Posts: 6,936	im going again tonight....taking my bro, sis, and gf. yay!

18th December 2003, 18:23	#20
Fickle Butterknife of Justice (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind you. Posts: 5,502	went to the midnight showing on tuesday (advance screening). It was cool, but there was a lot of Frodo vs Sam shit that made me think of gay porn. The touching, the shirtless Frodo prone on his back with Sam standing over him. I was tired so I wasn't seeing it in full perspective. Not that there's anything wrong with the gay community or anything, I am just a little weirded out when there are long dramatic shots of guys whispering and grabbing each other. Go read a book without pictures pabook? \| Look, a blog! \| Buy Stuff I Wrote

18th December 2003, 18:25	#21
xzxzzx Forum King Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,254	It was a great movie. Really, really good. Not quite as good as the first two, because the story was a lot more disjointed. However, still really, really good. Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34\|<$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? \| Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R ${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life.

18th December 2003, 19:15	#22
DragonSon Fears the boots Forum King Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,445	The BEST movie I've seen in a long time, hands down. Like Bilbo said, the scenes with the Undead were some of the best scenes, and the comic relief between Gimli and Legolas were comical to say the least. I can't wait until it comes out on DVD, then it's going to be somewhere past the 4 hours mark. So...Five thumbs up: Moderatio est figmentum No Idols, No Heroes, No Leaders.....Just Pure Inner Strength

19th December 2003, 07:23	#24
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19th December 2003, 10:29	#25
zootm Forum King Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: the nether reaches of bonnie scotland Posts: 13,375	i think the film is brilliant. and i think that purists who would've liked to see a "truer" version should at least try to consider how shit such a film would have been.

19th December 2003, 16:34	#26
zetafunction Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 99	Awesome movie. I've read the books, and I'm of the opinion that a little bit TOO much was cut out... like what happens to Theoden? Do they leave him to rot on the field? How come Eowyn's not all sad at the ending...? And how come Faramir is suddenly magically well at the end? Oh well, that's what the Extended Edition is for, right? <spoiler>I still can't believe Gandalf died!</spoiler>

19th December 2003, 16:45	#27
xzxzzx Forum King Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,254	Spoiler: You use square brackets for spoilers Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34\|<$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? \| Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R ${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life.

19th December 2003, 20:11	#29
xzxzzx Forum King Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,254	Spoiler: There's a reason I did Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34\|<$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? \| Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R ${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life.

20th December 2003, 00:18	#30
Russ Mostly Harmless (Alumni) Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: UK Posts: 2,319	The ending was long and cheesy, but then so was the book's. Yes, he left out pretty much half the book, but I think he's justified in what he cut (certainly, I don't think the scouring of the Shire would have worked in the film). To be honest, the book is not the greatest literary work (contrary to what viewers of a certain british TV program say), and I think in a way Jackson was going to get criticism however he adapted the book. How little criticism he actually got is a testament to how well he did it. The set of Minas Tirith was breathtaking, the cinematography was incredible, in general the plot and screenplay was very good. Some scenes were quite scarily close to how I'd imagined the book. It's really hard to rank the film amongst the other two of the trilogy. But the trilogy will certainly be incomparable for a good while to come. All I shall say is over three quarters of IMDB voters have given this film a 10 (unheard of), and that I shall be joining them. For long you live and high you fly, but only if you ride the tide, and balanced on the biggest wave you race towards an early grave. \|Musicbrainz\|Audioscrobbler\|last.fm\|

20th December 2003, 00:30	#31
Bilbo Baggins Wind Chime of the Apocalypse Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Forest Posts: 17,229	I do not think that the books ending was cheesy, it was bittersweet. Yes the war had been won, but at what cost?

20th December 2003, 01:11	#32
zetafunction Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 99	Cheesy? In what way? I'm not quite sure I understand. =) While it's hard to gauge with absolute certainity what Tolkien had in mind when he wrote the Lord of the Rings, it's mentioned multiple times that with the passing of the One Ruling Ring, the power of the three Elven rings--Narya, Nenya, and Vilya--will also pass. Even though Sauron might be defeated, Middle Earth can't go back to what it once was. It was the power of the Elven rings that preserved Lothlorien and Rivendell, and now that their power is gone, the elves cannot remain in Middle Earth for any longer. As for the scouring of the Shire, it's also another symbol of how the past can't always be reclaimed. Even though the primary source of evil in Middle Earth has been destroyed, it has spread and the hobbits can't just go home to a peaceful rest. Even after all that is said and done, and the wicked Men are expelled, some things are just never the same. Despite the victory, scars will always remain.

26th December 2003, 15:45	#33
Mrs_Mia_Wallace has a crush on Bilbo (Forum Queen) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: The starting points at a racetrack. Posts: 3,060	I didn't want to start a whole new thread about it so I'm posting it here since it has something to do with the ROTK...there have been over 50 mistakes found int he movie, you can go here for a list and description of all of them. I found it quite interesting sicne I didn't notice any of htem myself. Mistakes or not, the movie was great! Mia

26th December 2003, 19:36	#34
henry3k56 Forum King Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Internet Posts: 3 Trillion Posts: 4,241	Ditto henry3k56 \| Summer is here. My Flickr Page & Frontierra \| Posting Since September 2001.

27th December 2003, 15:05	#35
sidd Major Dude Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,353	chev's giberish in english, translated faithfully by a robot: Spoiler: 16 of January, 2003 Hace was released Lord not much of the Rings: The Two Towers and already I have been with which it will appear in éra part of the trilodge of LOTR, if you have not leido books and/or you do not want to know something, although is a detail from which one comes in the next film, better you do not follow. Sailing in the site of Andy Serkis (from post of Antonio), the actor behind the movements and a little the personality of the digital personage Smeagol/Gollum, I found a photo of a scene in where a passage in the evolution is observed (return) of Smeagol it will have in this one third part.

6th September 2010, 13:56	#36
zarine Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 159	It is a good flick. I liked it very much.

7th September 2010, 07:47	#37
gillcrist32 Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 134	Really it's a great movie for all the time

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