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Old 14th October 2011, 01:32   #1
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Jury Nullification

I recently read a very interesting article about the topic of Jury Nullification in the United States.

Before I post the link to the article, has anybody here ever heard of it? I'll put up a poll if I can figure out how.
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Old 14th October 2011, 02:33   #2
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Yes. I think it's an extremely important idea to be aware of.

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Old 14th October 2011, 10:22   #3
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yeah, isn't that where it's determined that the jury cannot be impartial in their ruling for some reason?

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Old 14th October 2011, 16:40   #4
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yeah, isn't that where it's determined that the jury cannot be impartial in their ruling for some reason?
Nope.
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Old 14th October 2011, 22:09   #5
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Sure have. Not been aware of anything recent, then again I've been living in a hole for a bit.

For those that don't know.

A jury finds someone technically guilty according to the law, but does not think that they actually deserve punishment due to the situation, etc.
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Old 14th October 2011, 22:29   #6
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For those that don't know.

A jury finds someone technically guilty according to the law, but does not think that they actually deserve punishment due to the situation, etc.
...or they believe the law is unjust or unconstitutional or that a guilty verdict would lead to cruel or unusual punishment.

For example, if --->I<--- miraculously found myself on a jury panel to decide the case of a traffic infraction where nobody was injured or actual endangerment was not proven (except against "The State" ) I would vote not guilty every time. I would be voting my conscience.

I would also vote not guilty for any citizen with no felony priors for acquiring, carrying (concealed or not), holding, or lawfully using any firearm or weapon or weapon system and/or any other armament inside the due right to bear arms whether or not they had a "license" of any kind or not because I believe that any Government encumbrance of any kind on arms is a direct violation of the 2nd Amendment right and duty of citizens to defend themselves from a corrupted Government and other people who mean to do them harm or damage. In this sense I would be voting to protect the defendant's Constitutional rights.

Here's the article I mentioned previously.
http://www.instruction.greenriver.ed...ON%20CASES.htm
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Old 15th October 2011, 02:04   #7
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You'd never get picked for a jury with those opinions if you were honest about them.

Say "jury nullification" if you wanted to go home.
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Old 15th October 2011, 02:07   #8
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You'd never get picked for a jury with those opinions if you were honest about them.

Say "jury nullification" if you wanted to go home.
Actually, I already figured the sure-fire way to get out of jury duty would be to say you believe in Jury Nullification. So far though, I haven't even had a chance to express that because I have yet to be selected for Jury Duty. I think they already know.

And yes, I am honest about those opinions.
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Old 15th October 2011, 04:30   #9
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You'd just need to ask about Jury Nullification, not express an opinion. The prosecutor would toss you.
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Old 15th October 2011, 05:26   #10
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My first jury duty was on 9/11

Freakin' bizarre.

I'm sure there is a thread on here about that experiance.

I just got a new notice for, of all dates, halloween.

How awesome would it be to come in dressed as an inmate in an orange jumpsuit, a chainsaw wielding maniac or a judge?
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Old 15th October 2011, 06:25   #11
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You'd just need to ask about Jury Nullification, not express an opinion. The prosecutor would toss you.
If the judge/prosecutor ACTUALLY knew what it was and what it meant I've no doubt...
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Old 15th October 2011, 06:27   #12
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I just got a new notice for, of all dates, halloween.

How awesome would it be to come in dressed as an inmate in an orange jumpsuit, a chainsaw wielding maniac or a judge?
3 words scrolling across the canvas of my mind:
"Contempt of Court"
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Old 9th December 2011, 08:48   #13
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Just had jury duty this past Monday, and I didn't even have to mention anything about jury nullification to get tossed. I simply asked the prosecutor for a definition of "scientific evidence," in response to her asking me if I'd be willing to convict in the absence of scientific evidence. She said she can't answer that, so I said I can't answer her. She also asked if I'd be willing to convict based on evidence that is not available, to which I replied that if it's not available, it's not evidence, now is it?

I don't think she had a case at all, if those questions were any indicator.

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Just had jury duty this past Monday, and I didn't even have to mention anything about jury nullification to get tossed. I simply asked the prosecutor for a definition of "scientific evidence," in response to her asking me if I'd be willing to convict in the absence of scientific evidence. She said she can't answer that, so I said I can't answer her. She also asked if I'd be willing to convict based on evidence that is not available, to which I replied that if it's not available, it's not evidence, now is it?

I don't think she had a case at all, if those questions were any indicator.
I've never been on jury duty, but I've assumed that the quickest way to get out of it is to demonstrate objectivity, critical thinking skills, and use actual logic. Who would want that when there is a limitless cesspool of people completely swayed by a nice speech?

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Old 9th December 2011, 16:39   #15
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How awesome would it be to come in dressed as an inmate in an orange jumpsuit, a chainsaw wielding maniac or a judge?
Don't shave and wear a T-shirt depicting Kurt Cobain.

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demonstrate objectivity, critical thinking skills, and use actual logic.
It is perhaps wrong that we have a jury selection process. Maybe we should be tried by a "jury of our peers" unsorted by prosecutors and defense attorneys.

Have you ever been sent to a mental institution? No? You're good.

I've always thought that the unwashed masses in this country have a certain wisdom, even if it isn't a completely educated view.
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Old 10th December 2011, 22:22   #16
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You know what I would like to see?

We are guaranteed a jury of our peers.

The next time a physician gets sued for a procedure not working/patient dying on the table even though it is a known risk/known procedural complication ... I want to see a jury of physicians. After all, aren't physicians the peers of the person being sued?

The legal system in this country is total bullshit and is anything but just.

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Fuck, I'll even concede a jury of peers. How about a jury of all PhD's?

Oh wait .... what krock said.
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I just recently found this article.

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Doug Darrell Acquitted Of Marijuana Charges Through Jury Nullification In New Hampshire
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1890824.html
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