Old 26th June 2003, 20:16   #1
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There's got to be an English Major in here somewhere...

This is referring to my forum name, Nimelennar. I'm currently writing a novel (it's currently stalled at the moment), where that is the main character's name.
When looking at it, how do you think it's pronounced. Some people think Nime-len-nar, some think Nim-elen-nar
In actuality, it's the second. It comes from three elven words (from Tolkien), Nim=white, elen=star, nàr=fire.
What I want to know is there some way I can accent the i (ì,î,ï) that will make the name being pronounced correctly.
There is an easy solution: Double the "m". However, I'm not sure if that would affect the meaning. And besides, I think, just in terms of aesthetics, Nimelennar looks better then Nimmelennar.

Can anybody help me with this? Thanks a lot!

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Old 26th June 2003, 20:24   #2
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I'm no English major, but I think just because the name is a conglomerate of three words doesn't mean it has to be pronounced as if it was three separate words.

But, I think to get the effect you are looking for, you might want to accent the first e. That will give that syllable emphasis, automatically separating it from the Nim start. I don't know Elven, so I couldn't tell you which accent mark to use. It's a made up language anyways, so you can probably do whatever you want.

(Of course I guarantee that someone will link to some Elven grammar dictionary site that some LOTR enthusiast has written)
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Old 26th June 2003, 20:30   #3
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Zylot from the ZT Center is a major in english. You may want to ask him.. He posts here every now and then, I'll direct him in this direction.
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Old 27th June 2003, 01:12   #4
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To tell you the truth, I actually pronounced it right the first time, and I dont think that you need to make the pronunciation of the name absolutely clear. Peoples interpretation of the way things are read in a book is part of the experience of reading. But if its really neccesary, I would go with the double 'm'.

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Old 27th June 2003, 01:20   #5
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Not relevant yet .... very relavent...

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Old 27th June 2003, 02:45   #6
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pronounciation woudl depened completely on where you live. dialect, etc. for example, buffet looiks liek "buff-et" in american, but is french and is said "buff-a" (more or less). i don't think there is a "correct" and incorrect way to say it (within reason)
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I know that, but in my story, elven is a rare language, and literacy isn't very common even in whatever common language is spoken, so the main character would probably be introduced by name, out loud. So the name itself, when rendered into the story, would first, not be in the elven runes that originally marked it, so any rendering of it would be, like a rendering of Chinese words in Roman letters, an inaccurate representation of the original lettering, and second, it would be more a rendering of the sound than the runes.
Actually, after saying all that, I'm really withdrawing all reason to not double the m except the aesthetic.
Nimelennar does look better, doesn't it?

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Old 27th June 2003, 06:21   #8
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Not relevant yet .... very relavent...
I was thinking along the same lines, but you will notice I carefully chose the word "enthusiast" in my post, when other words might have been a bit more descriptive.
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Old 27th June 2003, 07:18   #9
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Re: There's got to be an English Major in here somewhere...

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Originally posted by Nimelennar
This is referring to my forum name, Nimelennar. I'm currently writing a novel (it's currently stalled at the moment), where that is the main character's name.
When looking at it, how do you think it's pronounced. Some people think Nime-len-nar, some think Nim-elen-nar
In actuality, it's the second. It comes from three elven words (from Tolkien), Nim=white, elen=star, nàr=fire.
What I want to know is there some way I can accent the i (ì,î,ï) that will make the name being pronounced correctly.
There is an easy solution: Double the "m". However, I'm not sure if that would affect the meaning. And besides, I think, just in terms of aesthetics, Nimelennar looks better then Nimmelennar.

Can anybody help me with this? Thanks a lot!

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I'm an English major, I'm currently writing four novels simultaneously. I'd love to help you out.

I would add a second 'l' to solve your syllable problem.

Nimellennar would be more likely to be pronounced the way you want, but however when I saw it the first time, I pronounced it the way you wanted. Just depends on the readers, I suppose.

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What you did right there.

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Old 27th June 2003, 22:32   #11
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I am just a minor, but you might just want to put a breve accent mark above the first e. Nimĕlennar. Use the character map to find it.
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