Do modern musics suck or it's just my imagination ?

[WinampFTW]

Prove me wrong by recommend me some good music ?

[ElChevelle]

I'm of the same feeling lately. I'm bored with ALL music and feel that it's become redundant.

[PulseDriver]

You're on to something.

[Too-DAMN-Much]

not all new music sucks, but most does.

[cooky560]

Anything that's well known in modern music usually sucks. But I'm sure that there is new music in every genre behind the scenes so you'll find something

[SSJ4 Gogitta]

I've only ran across a handful of music in the last year or three that I've liked.

Neon Trees - Animal
Yuksek - Tonight (Nostromo Remix)
Gnarls Barkley - Crazy
Justice - Genesis
Anya Marina - All The Same To Me
Little Boots - Remedy, and Stuck On Repeat
Rogue Wave - Eyes
Onili - Sentimental

[webthing]

[rockouthippie]

The problem is that when something sells, the recording industry gives us more of the same. Dozens of bands sound almost just like each other. Thank God we are almost over the time when everything sounds like Nirvana. I liked Nirvana. It didn't need 2 dozen copy cats.

Now as you drive your car cross country, you'll notice that Clear Channel makes sure you'll hear exactly the same radio playlist in every city in the US.

I'm sure there are some bands out there that have a unique sound, but corporate music industry interests make sure we'll never hear it.

RIAA is bitching about piracy, claiming it is getting into their bottom line. I think the truth is that we are voting with our wallet. When I don't hear albums I want to buy, I don't buy them.

I haven''t bought an album in a year.

[quote]

Originally Posted by webthing

...lots of youtube vids...

For the most part that makes my point. Metal of the generic variety. I remember when metal was a new sound.

[Too-DAMN-Much]

Originally Posted by rockouthippie

the truth is that we are voting with our wallets.

yeah, movies and even video games used that cop out that you mentioned about their bottom line.

there's a huge flaw with that type of thinking though, it assumes that customers are pleased with what they're getting and aims to sally forth and continue existing by trying to trick consumers into adjusting their expectations in relation to the declining amount of the time that customers are pleased.

in other words, the idea as simply as i can state it works like described as follows:

customer purchases product -> customer is unhappy with purchased product -> more products are put forth which are either as satisfying to the customer or marginally less satisfying (but NEVER more, because in the retarded mind of these industries trying harder could ONLY ever result in more wasted effort) -> (this is where the industry starts thinking extremely stupidly, like pools basically) customer lowers expectations -> start over from initial customer purchases product.

[rockouthippie]

.....Movie and music industries eventually lose 15-20% of their volume... bitch about pirates... even though it probably isn't really significant to their bottom line.

Less time lawyering.. More time entertaining. They just don't get it. 1 Nirvana was cool. 3 dozen Nirvanas is 35 too many...

[Too-DAMN-Much]

ah but you can't predict success especially in movies, music or games, at least not accurately.

so they've come up with the idea that since they can't predict success they shouldn't ever try to do their best, instead they should just do the absolute minimum to minimize the inevitable loss when a predicted success flops.

[SSJ4 Gogitta]

Make half the shit I've read into movies, and you'll have a lot of successful movies. Better yet, make them into proper TV shows, especially books that are a decent sized series. They gave it a try with Harry Dresden, but didn't follow the damn book. One book per 6 or 13 episode season on HBO or Showtime would be perfect.

[rockouthippie]

Make half the shit I've read into movies

They were too busy making Saw 9.

[Warrior of the Light]

Yesterdays music sucked just as much as todays. Point is that we like to forget bad music and remember the good stuff.

20 years from now, we'll still hate the music we have then and love the music we have now.

Compare recording qualities of music from today and that from 20 years ago. I hate to listen to good music that was recorded in a horrible way... so yay for today.

[edit]
here is the chart from 20 years ago. I haven't heard half of the music in the lower half (upper half on the site) in years. Some tracks I've never heard (or even heard of) in my life.

[papadoc]

I'm so glad I grew up in the 60's when music was changing. The goal of musicians and groups back then was to sound different than anything else. And it was all new, considering what came before it from the 40's and 50's. Add to that the record companies had not yet gained the control they have now. And...add to that the radio stations were free to play what they wanted, unlike today. I remember having a good friend who was a DJ at one of the Atlanta stations. I'd go into the booth with him and we'd pull records out and play them over the air. I even brought records from my house to play. Yep, it was a great time to be into music, for the few years it lasted.

[Sabine Klare]

Hello everyone,
as I was a child, I have listened to German Pop, later in my youth to English Pop, I have also watched some music-videos on television.
Today I am so far away from this "Top Ten Pop". I am browsing each day in the internet, and on this way I am finding new artists with very good music.
I prefer especially the "Unknown Artists", because they are the artists with the best music in my opinion. I have recommended a lot of them, and I myself am only one of these "Unknown Artists".
But that's only my opinion. Not each modern music sucks.
If You want to know, which music I myself like very much, You must only visit me in all the platforms, I have also "Public Music Libraries" there...
Greetings from Sabine Klare Aka Sternenmaschinebine

[ujay]

* Tips hat to papadoc *

Musicianship is what has always mattered to me.
There's good, ... there's bad. Same now as it ever was.

UJ

[papadoc]

Originally Posted by ujay

* Tips hat to papadoc *

[Too-DAMN-Much]

well... i don't mean to end the thread here but there's one point which is relevant and needs to be made and there's really only one or two valid conclusions to move forward from it.

basically, music is pretty much completely and totally a science somewhat recently.
in other words we can predict what sounds and arrangements and timings of instruments and samples and stuff like that will sound good and what will sound like shit or "off beat" with quite a bit of accuracy.

so... it's not so much where an artist makes a new song anymore it's more or less a band makes a new hypothesis of which way to combine and time all the sounds and instruments will reach the top of the chart and stay there the longest.

therefore it's reasonable (and measurably so) that music made after realizing we can finally define music as a science that innovation and experimentation and new approaches to finding out what sounds good and what sounds bad are slowly replaced by variations of the hypothesis (<- not sure what the plural is and couldn't be bothered to search for it, but it is to be read as plural) that was previously successful.


so yeah, tl;dr

being able to define music to the point that it's a science where we can predict what will sound good while a decent scientific advancement pretty much leads to stagnation and musical inbreeding because sounding good is so fucking easy these days.