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  • JacquesMoreau29
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2018
    • 13

    Shoutcast constant Buffering, Cutting in and out

    Shoutcast Support (DJ Egg, etc...)

    I broadcast directly thru your shoutcast server (NO DNAS). Format MP3, Stream bitrate 128

    I broadcast from my internet FIBER at home (100 Mbps in & 100 Mbps out).

    I ping your "listen.shoutcast.com" server and the pings are fast... no time out request.

    Also, I'm listening from any other location (office, friends, cellphone, etc...)... Shoutcast buffering all the time. No matter the time of the day.

    Buffering at home also when listening.

    No matter the application I use: radionomy (HTML5), tuneIn, Orange radio, VLC streaming, Nomy (android)




    After all my reading on many forums... it sounds that the problem is on shoutcast server side.

    If it's a global issue... Does somebody at shoutcast is looking at the issue? any ETA?

    Any suggestion to make it better with no buffering (cutting in and out)?

    Thanks!
  • neralex
    Major Dude
    • Mar 2011
    • 576

    #2
    It works here in Germany without issues!

    Did you checked the files, on which you noticed the bufferings? The most reason for this issue is the difference of the bitrate of your used files. Make sure that all your files have the same bitrate (CBR only - no VBR) and not lower than 44.100hz.

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    • JacquesMoreau29
      Junior Member
      • Jul 2018
      • 13

      #3
      How long did you listen my radio station?
      Sometime you can be good for an hour or two.... and after that it's start cutting in & out like crazy.
      It's never at the same time of the day.

      All my files are CBR - MP3 - 320 kbps - 44100 Hz
      All the files are in excellent quality and tags properly

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      • neralex
        Major Dude
        • Mar 2011
        • 576

        #4
        Ok, but the first question to your issue will be: "When?" Why you doesn't send a email to the support-team with the timestamps where you noticed the issue.

        Recently I have read many of these messages about outages of the streaming service and I wonder every time: If you really need a stable stream, why you are using a free streaming-service and go into this dependency instead of just setting up your own DNAS? To rent a own server is not really expensive and if you are familar with linux, you will get very cool solutions for paylist-management, re-encoding and a very easy setup.

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        • JacquesMoreau29
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2018
          • 13

          #5
          Thanks for your advise... I'm thinking about changing streaming provider.
          I'm not hot (for now) to have my own DNAS... maybe later

          Do you have any economic alternative of Shoutcast.com?
          I found CastHost.net... they have affordable package.

          Does somebody has good shoutcast.com alternative to recomand?

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          • neralex
            Major Dude
            • Mar 2011
            • 576

            #6
            I'm hosting my own DNAS since 2011.

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            • NJK
              FRISIAN
              • Sep 2003
              • 16743

              #7
              Originally Posted by neralex View Post
              I'm hosting my own DNAS since 2011.
              as i have i since 2003 but you have to keep in mind that you have to have a good provider with enough upload.
              latest version of Winamp
              DSP Plug V2.41
              Language Packs

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              • neralex
                Major Dude
                • Mar 2011
                • 576

                #8
                @NJK 2003 - wow nice! And yes a good provider is very important and also the interest how to manage an secure a own box. I'm very happy with the using of a stable linux distro and SHOUTcast since the my start in 2011.

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                • NJK
                  FRISIAN
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 16743

                  #9
                  @neralex

                  simply on windows as that is easier, my streaming is a hobby and not super serious
                  with besides the shoutcast DNAS the Edcast stand alone DPS , Zara Radio as a playout system and MBL software to manage the sound.

                  it all started as a testing ground for the commercial radio station on AM that i was working for at that time
                  nowdays involved in local radio on FM and the stream was turned from a bit of everything into a darkwave / electronic only stream but is still a testing ground for changed on the FM station.
                  latest version of Winamp
                  DSP Plug V2.41
                  Language Packs

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                  • JacquesMoreau29
                    Junior Member
                    • Jul 2018
                    • 13

                    #10
                    Guys,

                    Like I wrote in my original email... my internet is FIBER at home with AT&T
                    I'm running 115.7 Mbps download & 117.1 Mbps Upload
                    I don't see a problem with that.

                    My computer as a AMD A8 processor & 32 GB of RAM, HD of 2TB
                    I don't see a problem with the PC also.

                    On many forums, I see people having the same issue with Shoutcast.
                    Sound is cutting in & out

                    My only guess... maybe the anti-virus... I doubt about it!
                    Normally Antivirus does not scan the stuff going out my PC (my broadcast)...
                    Attached Files

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                    • NJK
                      FRISIAN
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 16743

                      #11
                      start a ping for serveral hours to see what that does.
                      latest version of Winamp
                      DSP Plug V2.41
                      Language Packs

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                      • JacquesMoreau29
                        Junior Member
                        • Jul 2018
                        • 13

                        #12
                        NJK, thanks for helping me... I really appreciate.

                        I'm a "IT Support/Network admin" for the last 30 years.
                        The first thing i did was a continuous ping (-t) and Tracert of listen.shoutcast.com. Everything is normal.

                        The cutting in & out happen everywhere at home (fiber), at my office (fiber), on my cellphone (with a data plan) and also happen to my friends at their house.

                        If I drop the quality of the broadcast at 64K (very poor quality)... I noticed that the cutting in & out is less). But 64K is not acceptable in my book. I tried 128 (same issue). I'm at 192 now (and it's not worst than 128)

                        Also, If I'm not broadcasting (not sending music to shoutcast at all), the shoutcast fallback song located on the shoutcast server takes over.... and that fallback song cutting in & out also. It's prove that the problem is not cause by my broadcasting.... But from the shoutcast server to the customers.

                        I'm still scratching my head... But my big guess is still pointing on the poor quality service of shoutcast to deliver the sound correctly to the customers. I'm sure that I'm not the only one with this issue.

                        To make sure that I'm not crazy... if it's possible (If you have the chance)... can somebody listen to my radio for a while (1 hour or less) and tell me if it cutting in & out for them also?



                        Thanks in advance for any help.

                        ANY SUGGESTION FOR A SHOUTCAST ALTERNATIVE?
                        (I don't want to create my own DNAS for the moment)

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                        • ryerman
                          Major Dude
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 769

                          #13
                          Originally Posted by JacquesMoreau29 View Post
                          I'm still scratching my head... But my big guess is still pointing on the poor quality service of shoutcast to deliver the sound correctly to the customers. I'm sure that I'm not the only one with this issue.
                          To make sure that I'm not crazy... if it's possible (If you have the chance)... can somebody listen to my radio for a while (1 hour or less) and tell me if it cutting in & out for them also?
                          Yes, it starts cutting in & out immediately.
                          But thousands of other stations play normally.
                          Windows 10 Home, 64 bit, Winamp 5.666, Bento Skin

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                          • JacquesMoreau29
                            Junior Member
                            • Jul 2018
                            • 13

                            #14
                            Thanks Ryerman for trying... I'm still scratching my head

                            My big clue... is that the fallback song on shoutcast.com is also cutting in & out even if I'm not broadcasting.

                            My next try this week will be to broadcast with "winamp/dsp" instead of "RadioDJ/MB Recaster"

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                            • JacquesMoreau29
                              Junior Member
                              • Jul 2018
                              • 13

                              #15
                              I found another blog with people with the same problem...

                              Something go south with your Shoutcast? Need tips to get up and streaming? Check in here with the experts.


                              I contacted DJ EGG for the 3rd time about... still no reply.

                              It's really on the shoutcast server side... Users with the saem issue should stop trying everything and just try to contact Shoutcast for a maintenance of their servers or routers... something not right on their side.

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