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Old 28th September 2008, 02:38   #1
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Obama or McCain?

Which one is the best for you: Obama or McCain?
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Old 28th September 2008, 06:48   #2
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Hmmm... socialism or.. slightly less socialism.


I think I'll go cry in a corner.

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Old 28th September 2008, 06:53   #3
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I ain't voting this year. This isn't democracy any more. It's seems more like a dictatorship to me. Only we decide who the dictator gets to be every 4 years.

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Old 28th September 2008, 07:05   #4
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I ain't voting this year. This isn't democracy any more. It's seems more like a dictatorship to me. Only we decide who the dictator gets to be every 4 years.
We can only pray that things improve over time or by some miracle overnight.

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Old 28th September 2008, 11:40   #5
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Obama!
Oh, Lisa Nova does that Moose Huntin' bitch!
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Old 28th September 2008, 14:15   #6
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It's doesn't matter who.
Politician choose who should be the next STOOGE.
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Old 28th September 2008, 15:17   #7
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I'm voting for Ozzy Osbourne. Sure - he's a blithering idiot but so is who we have now so no one should notice.

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Old 28th September 2008, 15:57   #8
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Vote for me!
I'm an idiot like those guys, just poorer.
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Old 28th September 2008, 17:16   #9
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whoever wins, we lose
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Old 28th September 2008, 17:35   #10
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Okay, but if you HAVE to choose one, which one you pick?
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Old 28th September 2008, 18:11   #11
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Okay, but if you HAVE to choose one, which one you pick?
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Old 28th September 2008, 18:18   #12
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whoever wins, we lose
But can we lose whoever wins?

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Old 28th September 2008, 19:50   #13
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But can we lose whoever wins?
Yes... like always.
It's 21st century kingdom.
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Old 29th September 2008, 00:50   #14
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Hard to figure out yet who will get my vote!
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Old 29th September 2008, 03:04   #15
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Hard to figure out yet who will get my vote!
Wouldn't it be super dooper if no one at all voted for McCain or Obama........

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Wouldn't it be super dooper if no one at all voted for McCain or Obama........
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Old 29th September 2008, 09:07   #17
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then at least give a null-vote, but go to election.

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Hmmm... socialism or.. slightly less socialism.
don't you think it is getting time for it lately.

"Oh no *fear*, i gotta lose everything."

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Old 29th September 2008, 15:11   #18
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Old 29th September 2008, 15:26   #19
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Not voting is equal to accepting dictatorship IMO. I can't believe that you dislike them both as much.

I suggest making a list of things that you find important, and compare that list to the two candidates.

Democracy gave you people these two people to choose from.
Wether you like either of them was in the end your (plural form) own choice.

But hey, I'm not an american so I'll shut up.

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Old 29th September 2008, 15:35   #20
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Our screwed up political system makes it a moot point to vote. Each individual citizen's vote doesn't actually count toward the candidate that they're voting for. In theory, the system we have in place now isn't bad, but in reality, it hardly works the way it's supposed to.
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Old 29th September 2008, 16:23   #21
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Have you ever heard of the word Subsidiarity?

Concentrate on the things, that you actually can change. You say the system is fucked up? Then fuck it! I guess it's frustrating and you feel helpless, but in fact you aren't. As long as the substructure is corrupt, there can't grow a well-functioning government on it, but it's up to you and everybody to achieve consensus at the political basis. Therefore you have to know what is going on around in your neighborhood. a wise man said once upon a time "if you want to know, how the society of tomorrow will look like, ask a kindergarten teacher." And indeed, this could easily become a long rant: how do your very own children get prepared for piloting your country once a day. By television? in a DIY manner? They need strictly positive models. If your president fails at this, then it's up to you to look where's hope and then go for it and give perspective.
I'm sick of people moaning, that others do not act responsibly.
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Old 29th September 2008, 16:29   #22
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then at least give a null-vote, but go to election.

[Image]don't you think it is getting time for it lately.

"Oh no *fear*, i gotta lose everything."
While it may be true that more and more people do have nothing to lose except their chains, the problem is, they love those chains.
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Old 29th September 2008, 16:42   #23
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well, but that's an educational problem*

*inherited by unleashed capitalism
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Old 29th September 2008, 17:05   #24
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I agree with two points already made here: the candidates are indistinguishable and the political system is fundamentally flawed (although, in my opinion, it is working the way it was intended to work).

You are guaranteed to see the same kind of politics regardless of who you choose, as long as the system stays the same.
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Old 29th September 2008, 19:23   #25
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^ I Strongly disagree. I don't even want to think about a reversal of Roe V. Wade. And, of course many other things now as a left liberal democrat. Also Sarah Palin is slightly dumber than dirt. Oh, I think she is evil!
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to be honest, this like the last election, leaves me wishing we had eligible candidates, it's also funny how a local newspaper here did a story on obama and how people see him as "the peace candidate" and also gave many direct quotes from him saying that the war on iraq and the way bush handled it were exactly what he would have done.

the most surprising quote went something along the lines of :
"i think the way the war on iraq was handled was exactly the type of action that was nessecary to make them think twice about defying us"

that's not an exact quote as the article was at least a few weeks old and i don't have the paper here anymore to read it directly out of that.
but, in summary, it was basically "starting a war was good, it made them fear us" along those lines.

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Old 29th September 2008, 20:43   #27
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Even McCain has been misquoted. Since he opposed the war from the beginning, can speak in full sentences, oh, went to Harvard(without donating a building), and believes in freedom of choice re/ Abortion Rights...I'll vote for Obama and Joe!
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Old 29th September 2008, 22:09   #28
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Dear gawd, ever since Palin claimed that being governor of Alaska gave her international experience (Siberia on the left, Canada on the right), I feel like I have to vote for Obama and Biden.

I've never watched any of the Presidential debates, just highlights, but, I really wish I could see the Vice Presidential debates.
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Old 29th September 2008, 22:54   #29
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Vote for me!
I'm an idiot like those guys, just poorer.
In that case, ElChevelle.

Thanks for giving me my write in!
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Old 30th September 2008, 01:46   #30
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Even McCain has been misquoted. Since he opposed the war from the beginning, can speak in full sentences, oh, went to Harvard(without donating a building), and believes in freedom of choice re/ Abortion Rights...I'll vote for Obama and Joe!
so...

you think the context matters when he's saying he thinks going to war to make other nations fear us is good?

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so...

you think the context matters when he's saying he thinks going to war to make other nations fear us is good?
I think that, unfortunately, is political oportunism.
I'd never vote for a Republican. I'd especially never vote for a Republican who picked a Moose killing, "Creationist," supports aerial hunting for wolves and bears, wanted to take Polar Bears off the endangered species lists,is anti-choice, even in cases of rape and incest and is a complete moron uh...person.

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I for one am all for aerial hunting .... of course I am also picturing that to turn out very very similar to survival of the fittest and a law being passed that says the hunters must pilot the chopper ... and they have to fly and shoot at the same time --- no hovering apache's here!

Something tells me we would see a sad decrease in the human population and an increase in the animal population then.
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That's much too inefficient. How about hijacking planes and...
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Old 30th September 2008, 14:11   #37
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Obama 15, McCain 6 so far.
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I say McCain. Excellent fries
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^ Sorry! I don't get the reference, Seer!
Is he one of those anti- "French Fries" people??? (As well as being an blinkin', lyin' ass?

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^ Sorry! I don't get the reference, Seer!
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