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You live for ever in a heaven/hell. 16 26.23%
You are reincarnated with knowledge of past. 3 4.92%
You are reincarnated without knowledge of past. 7 11.48%
That's the end of life, period. 12 19.67%
Who do I look like, God or something? 23 37.70%
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Old 20th March 2002, 01:13   #1
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What is life/What happens when you die?

You ever stop and think about what life really is? I mean, particularly what happens when you die? Do you really live for ever in some heaven? If you do, it's FOR EVER. That's a long time. Then what if you just die and nothing happens? You wouldn't have any thought (think about that for a bit). It just all seems weird. What is the point of life? But most of all, what happens when you die? Elaborate please.
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Old 20th March 2002, 01:28   #2
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This is an issue I have mixed feelings about. On one hand, I am somewhat religious. Some of the stuff in the bible has a lot of evidence that it really happened. I also heard that some of the bible contradicts itself. I am pretty sure I believe in a God, but I am not sure if that is because I am scared that I don't want to go to a Hell. Some of the people here (in earlier threads about this) have said some things that make a lot of sence about why we believe in a God. I'm not sure what I believe in anymore. My feelings are that if I die, I either will go to a heaven/hell or I will sit there and rot in the ground for eternity. I don't believe in reincarnation with or withtout knowledge. That just doesn't make sence to me. There is science promoting and contradicting the existance of a God. I'm not who I believe more. So, I haven't yet come to a point where I believe one way or the other, what happens when you die. These are just my current thoughts on it.

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Old 20th March 2002, 01:38   #3
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Well, I believe in reincarnation, but I have heard of instances where the person does have knowledge of a previous life. In some way, (assuming that reincarnation is true) we bring something from our past lives to the life we're living now. It's not necessarily knowledge, but something more along the lines of wisdom.

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Old 20th March 2002, 02:10   #4
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Old 20th March 2002, 02:12   #5
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I am not a religious person by the standard definition. I am however a spiritual person. I believe we have a body and a soul. When the body dies, our soul goes somewhere else. I picture a place with all our loved ones. Not the "streets paved with gold" Heaven described in the Bible, just another place.
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Part of me says there's an afterlife.

The more practical part of me say that's it. You only get one life. No practice lives, no vacation lives, no retirement lives.

Though if there's nothing after life, and you've been wondering about it, once you die, you'll never know the answer.

About this "reincarnated with no memory of the past."

If you're reincarnated, you'd have to be born again, with a different name, a different face, a different race and nationality. And if you have no memory of your past life, then you're not you. You're another person. Suppose my dead grandmother is the little three-year-old down the street. But when you think about it, she's not, because she has no memory of her past life, nor does anyone else know she was 'reincarnated'.
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You die, your body decays, your spirit floats, end of story.

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your spirit floats, end of story.
Where?

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Old 20th March 2002, 03:06   #10
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Life is a gift.
Death is an answer.
Both are whatever we make of them.
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Some would say that death is gain.

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Old 20th March 2002, 05:58   #12
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Id love to think I'll be reincarnated or got to heaven(hell?) after I die.But the more logical side of me says I'll just cease to exist.It's pretty hard to imagine youreself non existant.Ok think of it like this.Did you actually exist when you were 3-months old.You were just a body.You had no conciousness.So mabye birth and eath go hand in hand.Theyre almost exact opposites.Where you come into existence and when you cease to exist.Like two sides of a magnet.Can any of you fathom youreself not existing?
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I get a bit scared when I think of dying and having no thoughts afterwards and stuff. But the more you think of it, the more confusing it gets. You just dont get any answers. I think its better not to think of such stuff

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Old 20th March 2002, 11:32   #14
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You reincarnate with your past life hidden. But you characteristic stays the same.(with a slight differences)..........(to be continue).....

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ZK, your signature is larger than that post.
I think there are limits to signature size.
Check the announcements for something along the line of 'user guidelines'.

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Old 20th March 2002, 12:01   #16
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Some would say that death is gain.

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Please explain Jarsonic. Is it because we are in heaven with god and not sinning here on earth?

I would really like to hear more of your view on this.

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Old 20th March 2002, 15:32   #17
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Missyob.. your answer-question reflects in some discreet way what you might say about the topic.. still I would like if you could elaborate your own view about the subject...
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ZK, your signature is larger than that post.
I think there are limits to signature size.
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Old 20th March 2002, 16:13   #19
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It is my personal belief that the concept of heaven and hell was if not created, promoted by the ruling groups to keep the working classes in line.

needless to say, i also think that once you die, you live only in the memories of others.

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i don't like the idea of dying then nothing. But everything else seems 'unfeasable'. that sounds wrong, but i don't know how to describe it. Death is just part of life. nothing else to it, you die, your body decomposes (ugh) then that ground is fertile...[cliff richard]it's the ciiiiiiiiircleeeee of liiiifeeee[/cliff richard].

Before i start to believe in a spirit or anything, i need a reason to. It works as it is, why would we NEED a spirit? how can you explain a spirit? what IS a spirit?
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Whenever this topic is brought up, I always get a little sick to my stomach. I can't imagine what it would be like to not exist... I assume it would be alot like before you were born, but then again, before we were born, we didn't really have a sense of being anyway. One thing that relates to this that I also think about sometimes (usually when driving) is how "on the verge" we all are, all the time. I mean, death can hit you unexpectedly and at any time, no matter how much we think that we are invincible and will live a full, long, healthy life.

It's such a touchy topic, and I personally believe there is some sort of "afterlife," call it what you will, I don't necessarily believe in this place called "heaven" where we all live in the clouds and play air hockey with Jimi Hendrix (sorry, too much Simpsons for me) but I do believe that our minds cannot die, like a part of us lives on, kind of like being stuck in a permanent dream. Whether it is a good dream or a nightmare, I haven't really been able to figure out how that's determined.

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Listen to the truth and listen well:
  • to die is to be with God, "ALL" who are dead are in heaven awaiting judgement
  • death is not the end, its a transition, a crossover as your soul leaves your body
  • at the end of the world there will be judgement and there those who will go to heaven and hell will be decided
  • in heaven we will all be reunited with our family who are there

Ignoring issues on God and death solves nothing, it would only restrict you from living life to the fullest.


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Please explain Jarsonic. Is it because we are in heaven with god and not sinning here on earth?

I would really like to hear more of your view on this.

~ Missy
Heh, hi Missy

From a Christian perspective, as Paul said "To live is Christ and to die is gain." What he meant was that if he should live, he would live to show others Christ, and if he died, it was gain to him -- He would be with God, which is "better by far." I think it's in the Psalms where it says "Better is one day in your courts than a thousand days elsewhere" (It's Psalm 84:10)
Basically, every good thing pales in comparison to the Glory of God.

Heaven isn't about clouds and harps and streets of gold and quiet.
It's one big party, it's all about God, and it never ends.

Can't wait.

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Old 20th March 2002, 19:56   #24
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A lot of people say, "Death is but the next big adventure." I suppose they're comparing it with life. But if they say it's the next big adventure, they have to be saying there's something after your current life.
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I do not really know what happens after "death" (if such a thing exists), but i am looking forward to finding out.
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I would like to throw another thought on death at you.
What about those, like me, who have died and been brought back to life?
Could it be said we came back as ourselves?
Where did we go while we were not alive?
Personally...I was clinically dead for 5.5 minutes, because of an overdose.
Where did I go?
I remember hovering above the emergency room where I lay,
up in the corner of the ceiling,
and watched the doctors and nurses work on me.
I don't remember thinking or feeling.
Just hovering and seeing.
That's all I remember.
No great bright white light. No harps and tranquility.
The next thing I remember was waking up on the ER table,
with all these tubes and my chest hurt from the pounding it took.

Death for me...as I look back on it...was another chance to live.
This time in my own body, but with a different outlook on life.
Next time...who knows...it's not up to me.
I don't even try to understand it.
But the same death to life will occur...I have faith in that.
There is a great spiritual meaning in this, I think,
one I believe will be the same on my final dying breath.
And as a wise old man once said..."I am not afraid anymore"
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I belive in afterlife. I belive in ghosts. I mean, where does emotion come from? It must come from something else then the brain. The brain is to cary out the life processes of the body. Emotion must come from something else then. It must be the soul. I don't go by a book, my religion goes by what I've experienced and what I think. I think that life is only a phase. Well I'm babbling now. I'll stop.
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About this "reincarnated with no memory of the past."

If you're reincarnated, you'd have to be born again, with a different name, a different face, a different race and nationality. And if you have no memory of your past life, then you're not you. You're another person. Suppose my dead grandmother is the little three-year-old down the street. But when you think about it, she's not, because she has no memory of her past life, nor does anyone else know she was 'reincarnated'.
Well, I think that memories don't follow the person, the wisdom does. Everyone gains some kind of wisdom in one lifetime, and let's say the three-year-old grows up. He/she will have that wisdom that was acquired in the past life.

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I get a bit scared when I think of dying and having no thoughts afterwards and stuff. But the more you think of it, the more confusing it gets. You just dont get any answers. I think its better not to think of such stuff
I agree completely.
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but I do believe that our minds cannot die, like a part of us lives on, kind of like being stuck in a permanent dream. Whether it is a good dream or a nightmare, I haven't really been able to figure out how that's determined.
Wouldn't that really be a heaven or hell then?
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It must come from something else then the brain. The brain is to cary out the life processes of the body. Emotion must come from something else then.
"Mama says it's cause of his medulla oblongata."
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If any of you have ever seen Robin Williams in "What Dreams May Come" than you will have an idea of where I think we go. In the move, they were told we go where we believe we will go. We are the ones who create our own heaven or hell.

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*bump*

I think this is interesting.

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when we die we're all wormfood (well not if you're cremated) LOL
i dunno, you die and oh yeah you die, much more info isn't neceserly needed

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If any of you have ever seen Robin Williams in "What Dreams May Come" than you will have an idea of where I think we go. In the move, they were told we go where we believe we will go. We are the ones who create our own heaven or hell.
Exactly. I relate to that movie so much after having lost my one true love. I don't think I could watch it again without losing it. But I do believe she and I will be together again someday.
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When the end comes I know they'll say "just a gigolo and life goes on without me"!

Life is what you make it!

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I am not a religious person by the standard definition. I am however a spiritual person. I believe we have a body and a soul. When the body dies, our soul goes somewhere else. I picture a place with all our loved ones. Not the "streets paved with gold" Heaven described in the Bible, just another place.
Hate to burst your bubble dude, but I believe the Bible says, when you go to Heaven, you will not recognize your loved ones that passed before you, or after you. If you know a passage that says differently, I'd like to see it. Myself, I don't believe none of that anyway. So if it is true, and I go to heaven, I'll be like Steve Martin said, "damn, I feel so stupid". heh
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We will recognize each other in heaven:

Matthew 7:21-23 "Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven; but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles? And then I will declare to them, I never knew you; Depart from me, you who practice lawlessness."

For in these verses, those at the "judgment" are pictured arguing with God about their supposedly good works while on earth . If they lost their faculties at death, how could they remember their supposedly good works? (Does this not show memory?)

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dont bust your balls over it. we dont know. no lame bible has solid evidence of what happens, hell and that crap is for little kids to encourage them not to be bad. we dont know whats gonna happen till we die. who knows, i may end up a shit eating rabbit?? (That'd be pretty neat!) wait actually, no it wouldnt!
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